concern ed for long term efects,related to an 8 week hcg usage

**sambaga** · 08-03-2010, 04:25 AM

With all the information overload and varying oppinions on the use of hcg, i charted out and used a 8 week long high dose hcg cycle.(CONSECUTIVELY - NOT THREE WEEKS ON AND THREE WEEKS OFF,AND ALSO OF NOTE THIS WAS INTENDED TO BE used DURING CYCLE). The first 4 weeks were noticeable gains ,and then slowly i started to retain a bit of water ,started to lose sex drive,and the worst of all started to get fat around breast. At this time i was also running.5 m.g arimidex and 20mg of nolvadex, and mid way through changed the a.i from arimidex to aromisin. the weekly dosages were (250i.u mon. wens. fri. sun ,for a total of 1000i.u a week .Worse yet at the five week mark i bumped it up to 1500 to 1750i.u a week at the end). i completely forgot that hcg should only be run in three week intervals. The end result is i ,ve started to loss my libido and also started to retaining water ,and all the other nasty sides that come with overuse. My question is. considering i was already was suffering from male andropause before starting, and couple that with the foolish prolonged use of the hcg. Do you beleave that i may have caused permanent testicular problems? Can some one with a fairly good knowledge base of hcg please wiegh in. By the way because my test. blood levels are naturally low ,the doctor wrote me a script for permanant test. therapy. To Help mitigate the problems from the negative loop i ,m probably suffering from , i,m going to continue to use nolv./ 20mg a day for a while longer, and also proviron 25mg/ a day. cOULD THE USE OF THE NOLV. AND PROVIRON POSSIBLY help stabilize the hcg side effects .thanks for any feed back.

**ROID** · 08-03-2010, 05:07 AM

i'm confused.

what gave you the idea to use HCG ?

**sambaga** · 08-03-2010, 05:14 PM

i was ending a 14 week cycle ,that consisted of 600mg equipoise a week,and very low dose of andro-gel. ON THE oral side i was takeing turanabol 60mg/ a day. But from long term use of pain meds and anti depressents , i was already suffering from testicular atrophy, and blood work indicated significantly low teststosterone levels. So immediately after my first cycle ended i received some test prop. and started to use that with in a couple of days.SO what started out as on cycle use of hcg and preperation for pct use . morphed into roughly eight staight weeks of use. i basically forgot that i was supposed to stop every three weeks. whats worse i started the hcg up again two weeks after the eight week run. i just started noticeing negative changes recently ,and i was trying to figure out if it was a sensitivity to the 400mg/ a week testprop. use .Or the hcg use. It then dawned on me that i ran the hcg way to long ,and that was most likely the culprit.The positive gains in sex drive and hard muscle gains started to go backwards. Do you think if i take some time off the hcg ,there may be a chance of getting some good function back,or is this type of overuse pretty permanant. Any idea what i can do to help myself out?

**ROID** · 08-04-2010, 04:59 AM

ok. I thought you just ran HCG. I misread your post I guess.

I don't think HCG caused this. It seems you just had a bad PCT. This happens to a lot of people, including myself. You put in 10 or 12 hard weeks and as soon as the hormones clear you lose everything very rapidly.

Victor or CThunder will have to help you out here. I don't want to give you bad advice.

I can tell you it's not permanent

**theCaptn'** · 08-04-2010, 05:16 AM

the best pct is more gears

**sambaga** · 08-04-2010, 07:45 PM

Thanks for the response. Being that it,s my first cycle i really don,t have any other experiences to compare it to. Being that youv,e dealt with these same issues multiple times i would have to be more inclined to take your advice. Well that puts me at ease in oneway, but in another i,m kind of disheartened that all those gains start to slip away that quickly. Man oh man this pct shit is complicated than the actual aas cycle and potentially more dangerous if it falls into unexperienced hands . I did take your advice and had just recently asked victor for some advice.

**ROID** · 08-05-2010, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by sambaga

Thanks for the response. Being that it,s my first cycle i really don,t have any other experiences to compare it to. Being that youv,e dealt with these same issues multiple times i would have to be more inclined to take your advice. Well that puts me at ease in oneway, but in another i,m kind of disheartened that all those gains start to slip away that quickly. Man oh man this pct shit is complicated than the actual aas cycle and potentially more dangerous if it falls into unexperienced hands . I did take your advice and had just recently asked victor for some advice.

yes, PCT is aggravating.

You will make a full recovery so don't let it mess with your head too much.

**unclem** · 08-06-2010, 05:29 PM

thats why i bridge.

**tnaugles** · 08-07-2010, 09:09 AM

Bridge? please explain

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