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    Fareston?

    I am currently planning my second cycle.

    My first was a 13 week test only cycle. 75mg prop EOD and 250mg enanth 1x/wk. This averaged out to be 512.5mg test/wk.

    For my second cycle I plan on running test only again. I MAY use an oral the first or last 4-6 weeks. Since I will be front loading and ending on prop I don't really NEED an oral. This is my line up.

    Weeks 1-3:
    150mg prop EOD
    300mg enanth 2x/wk
    0.25-0.5mg arimidex EOD

    Weeks 4-12:
    300mg enanth 2x/wk
    250iu HCG 2x/wk
    0.5mg arimidex EOD
    10mg Nolva ED

    Weeks 13-14:
    150mg prop EOD
    (Letting esters clear from enanth)
    250iu HCG 2x/wk
    0.5mg arimidex EOD
    10mg Nolva ED

    Start PCT 18 days after last enanth pin AND 3 days after last prop pin.

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    An oral is optional, so I did not include it. I don't want to use an oral twice on the cycle so I will pick to start OR end on it. Probably end. Might end on some winny or tbol.

    As far as PCT goes, this is the PCT I used for my first cycle.

    Nolva @ 40/20/20/20
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    Clomid @ 75/50/50/25

    I ended PCT about 2-3 weeks ago. Apparently I am VERY gyno prone, as I have been battling gyno symptoms since a few weeks after I started HCG on my last cycle. I finally developed a lump 3-4 days ago.. I am currently on Letro to clear that up. Hopefully it works..

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    Anyways, after doing research I am considering using Toremifene (Fareston).

    However, I am getting mixed results on it effectiveness for PCT. From what I can tell, it is just as good, or better, than Letro for battling gyno.

    I have read that Fareston is actually counterproductive due lowered LH/FSH?

    Can anyone comment on this?

    Would Fareston and Clomid be a better PCT than Nolva and Clomid?

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    Weeks 1-3:
    150mg prop EOD
    300mg enanth 2x/wk
    0.25-0.5mg arimidex EOD

    dude that's 1050mg - 1200mg of test. I personally think that may be a bit of a jump from 512mg. And even a bit high for a 2nd cycle. Especially if you are prone to gyno. I apologize as I do not know much about fareston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyes View Post
    Weeks 1-3:
    150mg prop EOD
    300mg enanth 2x/wk
    0.25-0.5mg arimidex EOD

    dude that's 1050mg - 1200mg of test. I personally think that may be a bit of a jump from 512mg. And even a bit high for a 2nd cycle. Especially if you are prone to gyno. I apologize as I do not know much about fareston.

    It would be kick starting with prop. As soon as the ester from the enanth starts kicking in I plan on dropping the prop. While the prop ester is active (first 3 weeks or so), I will be getting about 525mg / wk (150mg prop EOD), and when the enanth kicks in and I drop the prop I will be getting about 600mg / wk (300mg enanth 2x/wk)

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    I got ya. I am sure there will be some overlapping though. You will probably be fine either way.

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    Can anyone comment on the Fareston?

    It seems fairly new, but is the higher price worth using Fareston over Nolva? Does it really lower LH/FSH?

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