Thread: Equipoise with clomid?

EQ takes a long time to start having a effect as it is a slow and steady increase mainly in strength and helps vascularity. Most who run it run it along with test and go for longer cycles like 16-20 weeks. Deca takes a long while to kick in also and is generally ran for longer cycles but does give some decent size and strength. Although you are correct in assuming that EQ is considered fairly safe and many like it and I have used it but not solo.

Thanks Roaddkingg.
Seen alot of cycle post but very few had Eq in them. Doing alot of reading on Eq and just didn't see a down side other than cuts off your own production of test.

EQ will supress HPTA function to what extent really depends on the individual and the dose

Winni does not convert to estrogen

Originally Posted by 85toy4run

Just a thought but why not take EQ alone for 4 weeks then introduce clomid. EQ doesn't change into estrogen. So just keep your natural test going with clomid.
Other than tren what others don't convert to estrogen?

It's a poor idea. EQ needs time to build up and is very slow acting. You need to run it at minimum 16 weeks and at a higher dose. It dose convert to estrogen as well.

ANY let me repeat that ANY AAS will supress your natural test production.

Tren does not convert to estrogen.

Originally Posted by pyes

Winni does not convert to estrogen

it's also a complete wast of time when used alone...all winni does it screw up your cholesterol values for about 6 months post cycle.

if you don't want to worry about estrogen then use tren

Thanks for the info.
Other than Test are there any other gear you can use solo?

you can use any kind of heavy androgen alone like test, tren or masteron, etc. remember that heavy androgens have a much higher affinity for binding to the AR receptor when compared to heavy anabolics like dbol, deca, etc.

just remember to use milk thistle when on cycle when using heavy androgens to combat BPH

and just for the record....don't buy into the BS that this or that doesn't suppress HPTA function. any supplement that has any real prominent effect on androgen levels in the body is going to suppress the bodies endogenous test production that is just the way human biology works. that being the case low does HCG can always be used on cycle and it's so freaking cheap

Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder

It's a poor idea. EQ needs time to build up and is very slow acting. You need to run it at minimum 16 weeks and at a higher dose. It dose convert to estrogen as well.

ANY let me repeat that ANY AAS will supress your natural test production.

Tren does not convert to estrogen.

What doses, at a minimum, do you suggest. I always welcome your input.

Originally Posted by guybb3

What doses, at a minimum, do you suggest. I always welcome your input.

IMHO, it varies...but I wouldn't suggest going below 600mg EW. I can barely notice effects at 800mg, I'm actually running 1000mg EW right now.

Obviously this is not for everyone, but most experienced users will tell you not to bother with EQ if you don't run it at HIGH doses for long periods of time. I'm pushing a gram a week of EQ and I'm on week 8 of a 20 week cycle. Feeling trentastic!



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Originally Posted by 85toy4run

Thanks for the info.
Other than Test are there any other gear you can use solo?

None that I can safely recommend....maybe var.


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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

IMHO, it varies...but I wouldn't suggest going below 600mg EW. I can barely notice effects at 800mg, I'm actually running 1000mg EW right now.

Obviously this is not for everyone, but most experienced users will tell you not to bother with EQ if you don't run it at HIGH doses for long periods of time. I'm pushing a gram a week of EQ and I'm on week 8 of a 20 week cycle. Feeling trentastic!



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Thanks Victor. Would a newb experience more or less results than a long time guy, such as yourself?

IMO - I agree with the higher dosage of EQ Maybe from 400-800 max yet a gram a week is quite a lot.

Originally Posted by guybb3

Thanks Victor. Would a newb experience more or less results than a long time guy, such as yourself?

I wouldn't suggest it to a newb because of the duration that it has to be taken, IMHO. But yes, a newb shouldn't need as much as I do.



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Originally Posted by Richard Gears

What about primo?

True....you can put primo on the list.



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^^^+1000 But for primo to be effective you have to take lots of it,and it isn't cheap.Some of my buddies are going up to a 1g ew on this compound!I also agree with what you suggest on Eq dosage Vic!

Originally Posted by guybb3

What doses, at a minimum, do you suggest. I always welcome your input.

600mg minimum.