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    Pregnenolone and DHEA....?

    My doc wants me to go off Sustanon, and use pregnenolone and DHEA, does anyone have any experience with this stuff?

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    This is for HRT? (He's crazy btw).

    What dose are you on of the sust?
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    I take sustanon 100, I was supposed to take it every 2nd week, but I have been taking it every 4th day, while I was on HGH.
    I take 2 doses every 2nd week now.
    I read the post about sustanon, and that it should be used as frequently as prescribed, but increase the dosage.
    Made sense to me!

    PS- I have taken sust 250, but it made me feel like crap, on the 100 I feel great

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    Sustenon, because it is a blend, will put your blood levels all over the place unless it is dosed every second or third day.

    I am unclear on what your weekly dose is. I don't care how often you pin for the moment, just clarify what your dose per week works out to. Were you supposed to take 100mg every week or every second week? What weekly dosing felt good and what feels like crap?
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    I was supposed to take 100 every 2nd week, but I tried it every 4th day, and I didnt feel any difference. I then stretched it to every 6th day, and that seemed to make a difference.
    So I was taking 100 every 6th day with good effect, but, I have just started taking 200 every 2nd week, which seems to be just as good.

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    Okay, this helps.

    HRT to high-normal levels in the published literature is 125mg/week, where the ester used is generally cypionate or enanthate and the pinning frequency is once per week. In my opinon, based on my own pharmacokinetic modeling, pinning should be at least twice per halflife, and the half-lives of both these esters is around seven days.

    Sustanon is a mess - the blend of esters mean your levels will be all over the place with half-lives ranging from two or three days and upward. With your current dosing of 200mg per week - in other words, 100mg weekly - in a perfect world you'd be pinning daily. The least-harm pinning strategy would be every third day.

    If I were in your situation, with that ester and looking at HRT, I would be pinning 50mg every third day, which will give you just under 125mg weekly and should have you feeling much better than you would on one big shot every two weeks.
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    Thanks Built, but the problem with your suggestion is that only Organon sells sustanon here, and it comes in glass vials, so you cant give half doses and save the rest for the next shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dippa66 View Post
    Thanks Built, but the problem with your suggestion is that only Organon sells sustanon here, and it comes in glass vials, so you cant give half doses and save the rest for the next shot.
    You mean it only comes in amp vials? maybe you can transfer it to a sterile vial or load it into a syringe and save the syringe for a later date. syringes are sterile so i see no reason to fear contamination if you preload some syringes. I would just change the pin before you inject it, to be safe.

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    Sustanon sounds really lame for hrt. I would talk to your doc about getting enanthate or cypionate. Or find a new doctor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dippa66 View Post
    Thanks Built, but the problem with your suggestion is that only Organon sells sustanon here, and it comes in glass vials, so you cant give half doses and save the rest for the next shot.
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    You mean it only comes in amp vials? maybe you can transfer it to a sterile vial or load it into a syringe and save the syringe for a later date. syringes are sterile so i see no reason to fear contamination if you preload some syringes. I would just change the pin before you inject it, to be safe.
    Exactly. Just load two syringes when you crack the amp. Pin one that day, the other in a few days. There's nothing wrong with preloading a syringe.
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    As far as I am aware, all that you can get here is sus 100, 250 and andriol (capsules).
    I have never seen cyp or enan, and thats from looking in the prescribing guides.
    Male HRT is not done much down here.

    Glass ampoules is what I meant....such and educated audience
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