Thread: Please Help!!!

wat is your bf %? how clean is your diet? how many yrs you train naturally? do you do cardio? and have you researched enough on your own to know how gear works in body.

Originally Posted by unclem

wat is your bf %? how clean is your diet? how many yrs you train naturally? do you do cardio? and have you researched enough on your own to know how gear works in body.

great advices firstly u need to fix you diet, training and then u can add some supplements

I eat a low fat diet, well as best i can. I am 5'9" tall and weigh 195 which i think the last time i did a test my BMI was 22.5, I am a pretty regular guy buy am looking to bulk up fast. I havent been on a regular workout scedule and am starting today as I got a membership at the gym. I know its not gonna be easy, but thanks for the replys I will watch my diet

Originally Posted by kyleavey1979

Hello everyone, I am new to this and trying to get started. I am a 30 year old male and have decided that i would like to bulk up and loose weight. As this begins, i have decided to start a cycle of Clen to cut fat and to trim up but would like o know what would be the best for muscle mass. i would like to get big quick, I have been looking at dianabol. Can you pease give me the 411 and maybe help me with the best options for a beginner?

"i would like to get big quick" not gonna win many fans here like that. but i know what you mean. after all that is the main reason we juice. you will hear a thousand bullshit aswers about plateaus and other senseless crap. we all start for the same reason and thats to get big quick.first cycle? go with test and test alone 400mg of cyp or enan for 10 or 12 weeks. i dont know how quick u lookin for but after 2 months you will be 20 lbs bigger no doubt. u gotta eat right or u throw it all away. oh and "bulk up and lose weight" makes no sense at all. you cant get big and lose weight. knd of an oxy moron. do your research look up all the profiles of steroids not just the ones you think your interested in. read about pct til your blue in the face. after that read it all again. read about injection info and bodybuilding diets. dont rely on info u get here, its mostly opinions here. google every frickin word that comes to mind. good luck

Clen is not your best choice. Clen will make you lose fat but it is very short lived and the risks are not worth it. In the end, you will be universally disappointed. A safer option would be an ECA stack combined with diet and cardio. Also Dbol should be ran with a test base. test and dbol will cause you to gain muscle and fat and water retention. I would recommend testosterone (any ester) and tren, with ECA. I hope this helps.

Originally Posted by who dat

"i would like to get big quick" not gonna win many fans here like that. But i know what you mean. After all that is the main reason we juice. You will hear a thousand bullshit aswers about plateaus and other senseless crap. We all start for the same reason and thats to get big quick.first cycle? Go with test and test alone 400mg of cyp or enan for 10 or 12 weeks. I dont know how quick u lookin for but after 2 months you will be 20 lbs bigger no doubt. U gotta eat right or u throw it all away. Oh and "bulk up and lose weight" makes no sense at all. You cant get big and lose weight. Knd of an oxy moron. Do your research look up all the profiles of steroids not just the ones you think your interested in. Read about pct til your blue in the face. After that read it all again. Read about injection info and bodybuilding diets. Dont rely on info u get here, its mostly opinions here. Google every frickin word that comes to mind. Good luck

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WhoDat, thanks for the honest answer! I can understand what you are saying. hen i say loose weight mean bodyfat and when i say bulk up I meant muscle mass. not the actual weight of my body. I am sorryfor the confusion. anyways like i said thanks for the honest answer

Originally Posted by kyleavey1979

WhoDat, thanks for the honest answer! I can understand what you are saying. hen i say loose weight mean bodyfat and when i say bulk up I meant muscle mass. not the actual weight of my body. I am sorryfor the confusion. anyways like i said thanks for the honest answer

He know what you meant. peoples cycle consist of either bulking or cutting. You are asking for both in one cycle. the cycle i gave you will cut fat and put on moderate mucles at the same time, but you will not get extremes of either bulking or cutting. If this is your first cycle, my example may be a bit too much.

Originally Posted by kyleavey1979

WhoDat, thanks for the honest answer! I can understand what you are saying. hen i say loose weight mean bodyfat and when i say bulk up I meant muscle mass. not the actual weight of my body. I am sorryfor the confusion. anyways like i said thanks for the honest answer

TESTOSTERONE....Bulk up and cut fat, its a win win. you want to trade in fat for muscle as we all do and test is the best foundation.

is there a good oral test? or should i use something like test enanthate or test propionate what is the beswt test for me to take?

Best orals for bulking are Dianabol and Anadrol,first one at 30 mg ed and the second at 50 if you're a beginner,any oral cycle shouldn't last more than 8 weeks and shall include a liver supp that contain milk thistle...

what fred said, but if your going to use tabs and this is your first tab shot, I'd suggest Dbol.

Let's back up here for a moment.

How "fat" are you right now? The reason I ask is aromatase.

Also, how many calories are you currently consuming, and how many grams of protein, carb and fat. Not sure? Read the link in my sig on getting started, you'll find a way to quickly tell.

Am I missing something here??? This is some of the most fucked up advise I have read to a newbie. Your telling a guy that is probably over 20%BF to start on gears without even asking for diet and macro's??? And to boot, your telling him to start on Anadrol tabs as a first cycle???

Thanks god Built chimed in to get this advise back on track where it should be!!!

Your probably not going to listen to any advise given that tells you to wait, eat right and get your BF down below 13%. So my advise to you would be to run Test Cyp at 500mg per week (2 x 250mg on Monday and Thursday) for 10 weeks. Run Adex or Aromasin as your AI EOD for the length of your cycle and through PCT. Run HCG at 250iu's twice per week starting with your 3rd shot and run it through your cycle and 2 weeks after your last Cyp shot while the ester clears. Then start yourself on Clomid for PCT for 4 weeks and have some Nolva on hand in case you need it.

The higher your BF is, the more problems your going to have. Just keep that in mind.

my bmi is about 22.5 and i dont know about all the terminiology

what is ai eod,pct,and hcg.

I would really like to steer clear of shots and do orals but if i must go to shots i could



Your probably not going to listen to any advise given that tells you to wait, eat right and get your BF down below 13%. So my advise to you would be to run Test Cyp at 500mg per week (2 x 250mg on Monday and Thursday) for 10 weeks. Run Adex or Aromasin as your AI EOD for the length of your cycle and through PCT. Run HCG at 250iu's twice per week starting with your 3rd shot and run it through your cycle and 2 weeks after your last Cyp shot while the ester clears. Then start yourself on Clomid for PCT for 4 weeks and have some Nolva on hand in case you need it.
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Originally Posted by kyleavey1979

my bmi is about 22.5 and i dont know about all the terminiology

what is ai eod,pct,and hcg.

I would really like to steer clear of shots and do orals but if i must go to shots i could



Your probably not going to listen to any advise given that tells you to wait, eat right and get your BF down below 13%. So my advise to you would be to run Test Cyp at 500mg per week (2 x 250mg on Monday and Thursday) for 10 weeks. Run Adex or Aromasin as your AI EOD for the length of your cycle and through PCT. Run HCG at 250iu's twice per week starting with your 3rd shot and run it through your cycle and 2 weeks after your last Cyp shot while the ester clears. Then start yourself on Clomid for PCT for 4 weeks and have some Nolva on hand in case you need it.
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I dont want to come across like a dickhead here, but this is not like taking a couple of vitamins.

THIS STUFF CAN KILL YOU IF YOU DON'T RESPECT IT!!!!!

The fact that you dont know what "ai","eod", "pct", and "hcg" mean tells me you need to do more research. Go back to the Sticky's listed in the forum and spend 2 weeks reading EVERYTHING there.

bump aja here , if your diet and w/o regimen is not in check i wouldn't run anything, also with your bf% so high your only going to get a bigger version of what you look like right now, drop the bf% down to the very least 13% and no way in hell would i tell a newbie to run any tabs as a first cycle.. Why wouldn't you tell him to run a 400mg or maybe 500mg test only cycle. What about posting your diet and we can tweak it for you.

I eat Baked Beans and Peanut Butter sandwiches for breakfast.. is that clean enough?