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    I'm currently in week 2 of my cycle:

    1) 500mg test-c /week.
    2) HCG 250iu 2x /week.
    3) Aromasin 12.5mg ED.

    Gained 4.5lbs so far and would like to know what would be better for a bulking cycle, bump up the test-c to 800mg a week or add dbol 25mg ED or both?

    Also if you recommend either what should I bump my Aromasin dosage up to?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
    I'm currently in week 2 of my cycle:

    1) 500mg test-c /week.
    2) HCG 250iu 2x /week.
    3) Aromasin 12.5mg ED.

    Gained 4.5lbs so far and would like to know what would be better for a bulking cycle, bump up the test-c to 800mg a week or add dbol 25mg ED or both?

    Also if you recommend either what should I bump my Aromasin dosage up to?

    Thanks

    leave the test, 500/week is fine. no need to add dbol if youre 2-3 weeks in.

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    Dbol @ 25mg e/d is a little low. It looks like you've done your homework on AIs and such, so I would reccomend dbol @ 50mg e/d & Test C @ 750mg e/w. This would be a nice middle of the road approach. You'll see a nice increase over what your currently doing.

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    Your only in week 2, leave it alone and give yourself some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
    I'm currently in week 2 of my cycle:

    1) 500mg test-c /week.
    2) HCG 250iu 2x /week.
    3) Aromasin 12.5mg ED.

    Gained 4.5lbs so far and would like to know what would be better for a bulking cycle, bump up the test-c to 800mg a week or add dbol 25mg ED or both?

    Also if you recommend either what should I bump my Aromasin dosage up to?

    Thanks

    How long is the cycle?

    I like what you're using and how your using it. What's your PCT plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flathead View Post
    Dbol @ 25mg e/d is a little low. It looks like you've done your homework on AIs and such, so I would reccomend dbol @ 50mg e/d & Test C @ 750mg e/w. This would be a nice middle of the road approach. You'll see a nice increase over what your currently doing.
    I would imagine aromatization would be high here, what would you recommend I bump the aromasin dosage up to with this? 25mg ED?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder View Post
    How long is the cycle?

    I like what you're using and how your using it. What's your PCT plan?

    It's a 10 week cycle. PCT is:

    Clomid + aromasin. HCG stops 1 week after last test-c shot. I'm using research chem's so hopefully they aren't under dosed or anything.

    I have some letro on order just in case my bump up in test or dbol goes to my nips.

    I like flatheads suggestion. I just need to figure out what my aromasin dosage should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
    I would imagine aromatization would be high here, what would you recommend I bump the aromasin dosage up to with this? 25mg ED?


    25mg e/d would be fine. Beings your doing a 10wk cycle, I would stop the dbol around wk5. I know opinions vary on this, some guys like to run their orals at the end. All the advice given in this thread, thus far, is pretty solid. It's a matter of figuring out what works best for you, or a matter of what your looking to get out of all of it.

    A lot of this also depends on what your plans are for future cycles, how soon you plan on starting the next one etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flathead View Post
    25mg e/d would be fine. Beings your doing a 10wk cycle, I would stop the dbol around wk5. I know opinions vary on this, some guys like to run their orals at the end. All the advice given in this thread, thus far, is pretty solid. It's a matter of figuring out what works best for you, or a matter of what your looking to get out of all of it.

    A lot of this also depends on what your plans are for future cycles, how soon you plan on starting the next one etc etc.
    Ok, sounds good.

    Before I started I told myself I would only do one cycle for some bulk. But it slightly addicting watching yourself grow and the feeling of high test. We'll see...

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    Just pace yourself & don't get lazy on your support suppliments & you'll be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
    It's a 10 week cycle. PCT is:

    Clomid + aromasin. HCG stops 1 week after last test-c shot. I'm using research chem's so hopefully they aren't under dosed or anything.

    I have some letro on order just in case my bump up in test or dbol goes to my nips.

    I like flatheads suggestion. I just need to figure out what my aromasin dosage should be.

    I would go either way with the test, your call. I would start the dbol week 7 however to keep the gains coming, you will notice a fall off if you don't add an oral at around week 8. I would keep the aromasin at 12.5mg ED dose until you start the dbol and then increase only if need be.

    Looks good otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
    It's a 10 week cycle. PCT is:

    Clomid + aromasin. HCG stops 1 week after last test-c shot. I'm using research chem's so hopefully they aren't under dosed or anything.

    I have some letro on order just in case my bump up in test or dbol goes to my nips.

    I like flatheads suggestion. I just need to figure out what my aromasin dosage should be.
    Test Cyp has a half life of around 14 days. May want to run the HCG for 2 weeks past last Cyp shot so the ester is clear and then begin PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder View Post
    I would go either way with the test, your call. I would start the dbol week 7 however to keep the gains coming, you will notice a fall off if you don't add an oral at around week 8. I would keep the aromasin at 12.5mg ED dose until you start the dbol and then increase only if need be.

    Looks good otherwise.
    Thanks bro. I'll run the dbol a bit later in my cycle, since I agree on the fall off and that would help out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aja44 View Post
    Test Cyp has a half life of around 14 days. May want to run the HCG for 2 weeks past last Cyp shot so the ester is clear and then begin PCT.
    Thanks for the tweak on my cycle. After looking it up, it looks like its a little after 10 days on the esters in cyp. I'll run it two weeks.

    I'm always open to tweak my cycle for the better. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aja44 View Post
    Your only in week 2, leave it alone and give yourself some time.
    agreed. You could respond really well at that dose but if you go to 800mg EW now then you are setting yourself up to be running higher doses from this point on.

    I don't see anything wrong with adding dbol in for 3 or 4 weeks. 25mg ED is a good choice. If it's dosed accurately then you will see some good results @ 25mg.

    someone mentioned this the other day about how the trend of using very high doses for the first few cycles seems to be in stlye now. Most UG gear is underdosed but I don't think that is a good excuse to start out running almost 1 gram of test EW. I would still start lower and adjust cycle to cycle not week to week.
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    Thanks for the input ROID. I think I'm going to take a bit of advice from everyone and just do what I think would work for me. I'm thinking I will adjust my cycle to:

    1) bump test up to 600mg /w.
    2) add dbol at 25mg ED at around week 4-8.
    3) bump aromasin up to 15mg ED.

    I would expect this to give me nice jump in bulk at around week 4 when my test peaks.

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