Thread: dianabol

Originally Posted by Dmytri

Hi, i am looking for advice, please don't try to be a smarty pants and tell me stuff like do u have ur pct or did u train long enough b4 u started ur first cycle or if u don't know this and that than why did u even start a cycle lol. well this is why im here, cuz i dunno what i need to know. sooooo.... and yes i have everything i need from pct to 6 years martial arts and body building training behind my belt. the problem with me is i havent been able to gain a sigle pound in a long time now. 2 days ago i went on a dianabol dianabol cycle. Nolva and/or clomid for pct. im starting off a cycle. and i was recommended to pyramid it starting with 10 mg in the morning and 10 mg 3 hours b4 workout for the first 2 weeks, and and than up it 5 mg until i get to 35mg/day and do this for 8 weeks.
here is what i want to know :
1)would it be better if i stretched it out to a few doses a day instead of only 1 bigger one in the morning and 2nd bigger one for pre-workout.
2)i understand it would be best to stack dianabol with injectables but i cant get any of those here right now. so i was wondering if i would make any better gains if i used protein + creatine while on dianabol. or would plenty of food and water be enough for with d-boll and take creatine+ protein after the cycle or during?
Ps. oh yeah duhh i forgot avcourse im ussing thisle milk aswell for liver
thnx for your time everyone ^_^

best advice:

stop the dbol. get some test from one of the sponsors here.

1. the half life of dbol is around 4 hours. I prefer to split mine up morning , noon, night but i think you would be ok with an AM and PM dose.

2. If you can get dbol you can get test. I don't think you will benefit much from creatine when on cycle but water, food ~clean food, and protein are a must.

I don't see a reason to pyramid dbol. Are you doing it to see how your body tolerates it ? Some people like you to think they are intelligent by giving you a complicated plan to use a certain hormone and it's pointless.

I know you are gonna go through with it anyway so you really need to get an A/I.

I gonna go ahead and predict your results. You are gonna gain 10-15 pounds and no matter how good your PCT is you are going to lose 10-15 pounds.

Use clomid for PCT not nolva. Cthunder made a good post giving reasons not to use nolvadex

35mgs per day seems resonable to work up to. IMO I would space it out as was told to you prior it will help keep it in your system at all times. The half life of dianabol is real short but I assume you know that already. Dianabol varies in strength a lot. I have used metanabol by jelfa and that shit was the strongest I have ever got ahold of. With only 3 tabs per day 1am 1noon and 1 evening on a front load with injectables I put on 12 lbs in the first two weeks. You can expect your blood pressure to go up and ofcourse you know a lot of this will be water weight. You do need a great deal of protein and a really good diet to go with this and the milk thistle is a good idea. Even though I have read reports that milk thislte isntall that helpful. Have you heard of liv-52? I have used it and it's supposed to be better than milk thistle. A lot of guys will tell you that most of what you gain will be lost because it's mostly water but if you train hard, take lots of protein and have a good diet you may be able to turn that around and have it not be the case. I didnt flame at all and I hope this answered some of your questions. Good luck with the d-bol.

Dude. How can u ask if u shud be taking protein on cycle? U shud be taking protein every day of ur life and y I mean whey isolate, for maintenance alone u nees 1.5g per lb LBM


What's ur weight ?

I'm old school entire dose 2hrs pre wo split non wo days and ur prob doing way to much cardio with the martial arts. Need to up cals big time at a guess but if u give us ur stats ill help ya out as much as I can and if u want test ur in the right place u can get it here off of the board sponsors gen x is excellent choice

Your so unprepared its not even funny

Dangerous too. Dmytri---use the forumn for research. Not one night or a weekend...spend tons of hours on here researching.

Find a journal that may even be close your size, weight, etc....learn from people's success and failures.

I have been out of the pinning game for years (yes out of it) and I have been considering getting back into the mix. I have been considering it since April---considering means research, pricing, calendaring the year, diet prep, body prep, mind prep, support group prep, etc. I am not even close to pday (purchase day).

If you are going to do it, do it right (and safe sir). Not bashing here at all. Just my .02 cents.

Originally Posted by ROID

best advice:

stop the dbol. get some test from one of the sponsors here.

1. the half life of dbol is around 4 hours. I prefer to split mine up morning , noon, night but i think you would be ok with an AM and PM dose.

2. If you can get dbol you can get test. I don't think you will benefit much from creatine when on cycle but water, food ~clean food, and protein are a must.

I don't see a reason to pyramid dbol. Are you doing it to see how your body tolerates it ? Some people like you to think they are intelligent by giving you a complicated plan to use a certain hormone and it's pointless.

I know you are gonna go through with it anyway so you really need to get an A/I.

I gonna go ahead and predict your results. You are gonna gain 10-15 pounds and no matter how good your PCT is you are going to lose 10-15 pounds.

Use clomid for PCT not nolva. Cthunder made a good post giving reasons not to use nolvadex

Pretty much what he said.

Originally Posted by 258884

Dangerous too. Dmytri---use the forumn for research. Not one night or a weekend...spend tons of hours on here researching.

Find a journal that may even be close your size, weight, etc....learn from people's success and failures.

I have been out of the pinning game for years (yes out of it) and I have been considering getting back into the mix. I have been considering it since April---considering means research, pricing, calendaring the year, diet prep, body prep, mind prep, support group prep, etc. I am not even close to pday (purchase day).

If you are going to do it, do it right (and safe sir). Not bashing here at all. Just my .02 cents.

Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder

Pretty much what he said.

solid advice

Roid pretty much nailed it. Dbol is the most fun substance I have ever used, and I had good results at 40mg ED. I tried to go to 50 and the sides got a little too harsh for me. I dont think I would go 8 weeks on it, as it is tough on the liver. Keep it at around 4 weeks, and I honestly dont see any reason to do Dbol without test. If you can get one, you can get the other, and without the test I doubt you will hold your gains.

Just my .02

Originally Posted by ROID

best advice:

stop the dbol. get some test from one of the sponsors here.

1. the half life of dbol is around 4 hours. I prefer to split mine up morning , noon, night but i think you would be ok with an AM and PM dose.

2. If you can get dbol you can get test. I don't think you will benefit much from creatine when on cycle but water, food ~clean food, and protein are a must.

I don't see a reason to pyramid dbol. Are you doing it to see how your body tolerates it ? Some people like you to think they are intelligent by giving you a complicated plan to use a certain hormone and it's pointless.

I know you are gonna go through with it anyway so you really need to get an A/I.

I gonna go ahead and predict your results. You are gonna gain 10-15 pounds and no matter how good your PCT is you are going to lose 10-15 pounds.

Use clomid for PCT not nolva. Cthunder made a good post giving reasons not to use nolvadex

yes i am doing piramid cuz as u can tell im a novice at this but i will progress and learn. and yes i am going through with it lol. and yes i am pyramiding it cuz my friend told me to do so and im staring out with 20mg a day 10 am 10 pm 2-3 hours b4 workout( if thats wrong timing plz correct me) as well as also yes i am pyamiding to see how my boddy reacts to if for the first time ever. and all ive gotten so far is lots of energy. great pumps can lift more bench more and its just making me super angry throughout the day wich is the only thing i dont like cuz my mom is suspicious and went through my shit and found it grrrr :@ . and sweet thnx i was just wondering wich to use nolvadex or clomid ill get some test cuz everyone is talking so much about it. but more research first. im freaked out about injecting myself. it better not be as bad as i am imagining it cuz ima do it anyways

Originally Posted by superted

Dude. How can u ask if u shud be taking protein on cycle? U shud be taking protein every day of ur life and y I mean whey isolate, for maintenance alone u nees 1.5g per lb LBM


What's ur weight ?

I'm old school entire dose 2hrs pre wo split non wo days and ur prob doing way to much cardio with the martial arts. Need to up cals big time at a guess but if u give us ur stats ill help ya out as much as I can and if u want test ur in the right place u can get it here off of the board sponsors gen x is excellent choice

Your so unprepared its not even funny

I agree . i am unprepared. but not supper unprepared. the only thing i dont like about d-boll is its making me very angry many of the times throughout the day. and yes i will totally look into the test. but one more thing still troubles me : i do want to go on test and dianabol at the same time but the guy at the gym told me that if its my first cycle of d-boll ever( first cycle of steroids ever in general. ) than its best to stick it out with the d-boll first to get my boddy used to it and see how it reacts. and than rest for a month. and than do my 2nd cycle with test and d-boll. ???????????
and thanx for telling me where i can get it. im gonna probably get it from this site than. this really helped
oh yeah im 6 ft weighing in at 228. and oh yea im 21. and i know what most of u are thinking that im to young and u wanna tell me that as soon as u read this. and i dont care how young i am . im doing this anywais. so keep with the positive comments.
^_^

I wanna thank everyone that contributed to this thread. it answered some of the questions i had and made me think more and got me researching more into the right direction. ty = )

^^^ i no your young but just be careful with the use of these chemical agents. if your going to use them please dont give bbing a bad name by having fits of rage and your mom calling the police, there we go again the headlines i can see it now. but to inject pull back on the plunger to see if blood comes out if does do another site and repeat until no blood is found then inject. i just dont want u hurting yourself not being a dick. use with caution and think before u act if ur already having anger problems. good luck.

Originally Posted by Dmytri

I agree . i am unprepared. but not supper unprepared. the only thing i dont like about d-boll is its making me very angry many of the times throughout the day. and yes i will totally look into the test. but one more thing still troubles me : i do want to go on test and dianabol at the same time but the guy at the gym told me that if its my first cycle of d-boll ever( first cycle of steroids ever in general. ) than its best to stick it out with the d-boll first to get my boddy used to it and see how it reacts. and than rest for a month. and than do my 2nd cycle with test and d-boll. ???????????
and thanx for telling me where i can get it. im gonna probably get it from this site than. this really helped
oh yeah im 6 ft weighing in at 228. and oh yea im 21. and i know what most of u are thinking that im to young and u wanna tell me that as soon as u read this. and i dont care how young i am . im doing this anywais. so keep with the positive comments.
^_^

Dont necessaily agree with that

Dbol and test r like cookies and cream

I would agree you prob shud have started with a different oral and run by itself like Superdrol you could certainly run that solo

Or many will run Test all by itself with no oral for first cycle

Anyway nutrition is the key to making gains and keeping them

Originally Posted by unclem

^^^ i no your young but just be careful with the use of these chemical agents. if your going to use them please dont give bbing a bad name by having fits of rage and your mom calling the police, there we go again the headlines i can see it now. but to inject pull back on the plunger to see if blood comes out if does do another site and repeat until no blood is found then inject. i just dont want u hurting yourself not being a dick. use with caution and think before u act if ur already having anger problems. good luck.

agreed indeed. i always thought stuff like roid rage was bs lol. but than i got angry and i was like nah i talked to her and told her its better i do this than the worse things out there. and ill try to keep calm.and can u please explain to me how there would be no blood in a certain site of my arm since its in my arm and i pull back shouldn't blood be coming out every time? others told me the same thing. but i didn't get how no blood would come out. and what would happen to me if i injected it in the same site that the blood came out in?? thank you

Originally Posted by Dmytri

agreed indeed. i always thought stuff like roid rage was bs lol. but than i got angry and i was like nah i talked to her and told her its better i do this than the worse things out there. and ill try to keep calm.and can u please explain to me how there would be no blood in a certain site of my arm since its in my arm and i pull back shouldn't blood be coming out every time? others told me the same thing. but i didn't get how no blood would come out. and what would happen to me if i injected it in the same site that the blood came out in?? thank you

Pulling back is called aspirating

you do this to make sure you havnt hit a vein,

If you aspirate and theres blood in the syringe youve hit a vein so just remove wipe down with swab try another site, if you dont aspirate you wont know if you hit a vein. You inject that shit into a vein you on your way to hospital that is if you dont pass out and can make it to the phone, no joke

In muscle tissue blood is only found in blood vessels/veins. So if you aspirate while doing an intra-muscular injection, when you pull back on the stopper, you should only get air bubbles. If you get blood, then you are sitting in a blood vessel. If you inject into the vessel, I am not sure of all of the possible badness that could happen, but I have a buddy that immediately ejected the gear through his lungs. Just coughed it out. Scared him so bad he literally shit his pants. I wouldnt recommend that.

Originally Posted by jmorrison

In muscle tissue blood is only found in blood vessels/veins. So if you aspirate while doing an intra-muscular injection, when you pull back on the stopper, you should only get air bubbles. If you get blood, then you are sitting in a blood vessel. If you inject into the vessel, I am not sure of all of the possible badness that could happen, but I have a buddy that immediately ejected the gear through his lungs. Just coughed it out. Scared him so bad he literally shit his pants. I wouldnt recommend that.

How the fuck do you inject str8 into your lungs.

Anyways, gear is serious business.

No lol, he pinned in his ass as usual, but apparently when you hit a vein it goes straight into your lungs, where he proceeded to violently cough it all out. He said it went on for 10 minutes and by the end of it he had shit his pants. Good times.

Originally Posted by Dmytri

yes i am doing piramid cuz as u can tell im a novice at this but i will progress and learn. and yes i am going through with it lol. and yes i am pyramiding it cuz my friend told me to do so and im staring out with 20mg a day 10 am 10 pm 2-3 hours b4 workout( if thats wrong timing plz correct me) as well as also yes i am pyamiding to see how my boddy reacts to if for the first time ever. and all ive gotten so far is lots of energy. great pumps can lift more bench more and its just making me super angry throughout the day wich is the only thing i dont like cuz my mom is suspicious and went through my shit and found it grrrr :@ . and sweet thnx i was just wondering wich to use nolvadex or clomid ill get some test cuz everyone is talking so much about it. but more research first. im freaked out about injecting myself. it better not be as bad as i am imagining it cuz ima do it anyways

It's not that the dbol isn't going to be effective, you just aren't going to be building sustainable muscle.
There was a time I would have went ahead with this kinda of plan myself ...never did though.

After you get through the first injection you will find that you look forward to them after that.

Take a warm shower first then inject.

You need to look into aromatise inhibitors. This is important. Buy some from cemproducts. It's legal and ships domestic.

No offense to your friend but I wouldn't take his advice too often. He should have told you some of these things.

Originally Posted by jmorrison

In muscle tissue blood is only found in blood vessels/veins. So if you aspirate while doing an intra-muscular injection, when you pull back on the stopper, you should only get air bubbles. If you get blood, then you are sitting in a blood vessel. If you inject into the vessel, I am not sure of all of the possible badness that could happen, but I have a buddy that immediately ejected the gear through his lungs. Just coughed it out. Scared him so bad he literally shit his pants. I wouldnt recommend that.

fucking A, how did he manage this ?


i need to start reading all posts, then ask questions.

I would think it went through your heart first then lungs. Is he sure he injected into a vein or did he just have a bad reaction ?

I've never seen a doctor aspirate when doing an IM inject. Not anytime I have been given injects by them

Originally Posted by ROID

fucking A, how did he manage this ?


i need to start reading all posts, then ask questions.

I would think it went through your heart first then lungs. Is he sure he injected into a vein or did he just have a bad reaction ?

I've never seen a doctor aspirate when doing an IM inject. Not anytime I have been given injects by them

I guarantee your doctor aspirates mate maybe very subtle he prob leaves bubble of air at top of syringe this way allows for blood to flow int syringe after inj if you hit vein

I am on TRT and doctor sat me down for 45 minutes going over inj protocol and that was the first thing he told me....

Decent site all about inj protocols http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm

Lol Roid, I just googled "steroid inject vein cough" and about a billion horror stories popped up. Apparently it goes straight through your heart and lungs and you actually cough it out. Thats amazing.

Originally Posted by jmorrison

Lol Roid, I just googled "steroid inject vein cough" and about a billion horror stories popped up. Apparently it goes straight through your heart and lungs and you actually cough it out. Thats amazing.

lets just take their word for it

Originally Posted by Dmytri

Hi, i am looking for advice, please don't try to be a smarty pants and tell me stuff like do u have ur pct or did u train long enough b4 u started ur first cycle or if u don't know this and that than why did u even start a cycle lol. well this is why im here, cuz i dunno what i need to know. sooooo.... and yes i have everything i need from pct to 6 years martial arts and body building training behind my belt. the problem with me is i havent been able to gain a sigle pound in a long time now. 2 days ago i went on a dianabol dianabol cycle. Nolva and/or clomid for pct. im starting off a cycle. and i was recommended to pyramid it starting with 10 mg in the morning and 10 mg 3 hours b4 workout for the first 2 weeks, and and than up it 5 mg until i get to 35mg/day and do this for 8 weeks.
here is what i want to know :
1)would it be better if i stretched it out to a few doses a day instead of only 1 bigger one in the morning and 2nd bigger one for pre-workout.
2)i understand it would be best to stack dianabol with injectables but i cant get any of those here right now. so i was wondering if i would make any better gains if i used protein + creatine while on dianabol. or would plenty of food and water be enough for with d-boll and take creatine+ protein after the cycle or during?
Ps. oh yeah duhh i forgot avcourse im ussing thisle milk aswell for liver
thnx for your time everyone ^_^

if you haven't been able to gain weight then your diet is the problem. everyone gains weight with a high enough caloric intake, that's is just the way human biology works. increase your cals by 500 a day each week until weight gain occurs it's that simple.

You are years away from being ready for a cycle.

Originally Posted by Dmytri

agreed indeed. i always thought stuff like roid rage was bs lol. but than i got angry and i was like nah i talked to her and told her its better i do this than the worse things out there. and ill try to keep calm.and can u please explain to me how there would be no blood in a certain site of my arm since its in my arm and i pull back shouldn't blood be coming out every time? others told me the same thing. but i didn't get how no blood would come out. and what would happen to me if i injected it in the same site that the blood came out in?? thank you

i dont know who told you that, but, you should never inject into anymuscle if u see blood come into the syringe, never! i inject into my arms always and never had a problem. jmorr is correct if your lucky it will come out your lungs, blood, but if it causes a emboli , well ill see u in the big gym in the ski. i used to never aspirate my ass before injecting. but i hit something and blood came out my ass instead, cant ex[plain it but then the needle took off like a rocket and hit the shower curtain. it was a blood bath in the bathroom. my ass was bleeding badly and the site where i injected bleed real bad. plus i lost all my gear, fuck. but i dont have a clue why it would come out my ass instead my lung as usually happens. i got lucky i guess, never again. jmorr, just gear came out his lung? you would think blood would come out like came out my ass. hmmmm. ive heard blood come out peoples lungs after hiting something, never gear, not doubting you, just curious. oh well anyway dont just dont push a pin before u aspirate. if your prone to be type a personality it will just intnsify it. make u in bad mood. i dont believe in roid rages, its asshole rages.

More D-bol, less internet...

Originally Posted by Dmytri

I agree . i am unprepared. but not supper unprepared. the only thing i dont like about d-boll is its making me very angry many of the times throughout the day. and yes i will totally look into the test. but one more thing still troubles me : i do want to go on test and dianabol at the same time but the guy at the gym told me that if its my first cycle of d-boll ever( first cycle of steroids ever in general. ) than its best to stick it out with the d-boll first to get my boddy used to it and see how it reacts. and than rest for a month. and than do my 2nd cycle with test and d-boll. ???????????
and thanx for telling me where i can get it. im gonna probably get it from this site than. this really helped
oh yeah im 6 ft weighing in at 228. and oh yea im 21. and i know what most of u are thinking that im to young and u wanna tell me that as soon as u read this. and i dont care how young i am . im doing this anywais. so keep with the positive comments.
^_^

If you are going to do it anyways, test works well with d-bol. I think you are getting some poor advice from your friend. D-bol makes me feel fantastic, and works as a great kicker (4-6 weeks) at the beginning of a test cycle. I've never taken it without test, and the needed ancillaries. I do not like oral-only cycles at all. As far as the anger you have experienced with d-bol, I don't really buy the whole roid-rage deal. But then again I was an asshole long before I started with anabolics, so what do I know. Good luck.

this kid was going to main line roids!!! thats INSANE!!! just inject in ur butt cheek!!!

and roid rage well..... look at it this way roids ENHANCES pretty much everything, so if your a natural asshole, then when u get on the juice you will be an enhanced asshole!!! no roid rage