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    When should I start my winny?

    I am 2 weeks and 1 day (15 days) into my 12 week cycle. I am currently running 75mg ed of Prop. I will be making a winny suspension but I will be drinking it. So when should i start and stop winny? This is my first prop and first winny cycle. Soooooo:
    Prop; wk; 1-12 @ 75mg ED
    Winny; wk; ?-? @ 50mg ED?

    I was told to start it week 3, but I want everyone's opinion. Also when should I start my pct? Like i said, this is my first prop cycle and I know prop is short lived.

    I have nolvadex and arimidex on hand.

    Sorry for the ignorance and uneducation in this cycle. I am use to Test E, but I have only heard good things on Test P, so I jumped right in without much research , I know enough to know I am not ''late'' on any of the compounds. Thanx in advance for the help.

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    lotta people run it at the end

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    drinking it is a waste..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyes View Post
    I am 2 weeks and 1 day (15 days) into my 12 week cycle. I am currently running 75mg ed of Prop. I will be making a winny suspension but I will be drinking it. So when should i start and stop winny? This is my first prop and first winny cycle. Soooooo:
    Prop; wk; 1-12 @ 75mg ED
    Winny; wk; ?-? @ 50mg ED?

    I was told to start it week 3, but I want everyone's opinion. Also when should I start my pct? Like i said, this is my first prop cycle and I know prop is short lived.

    I have nolvadex and arimidex on hand.

    Sorry for the ignorance and uneducation in this cycle. I am use to Test E, but I have only heard good things on Test P, so I jumped right in without much research , I know enough to know I am not ''late'' on any of the compounds. Thanx in advance for the help.

    What is your goal? Where is your BF now?

    Start the PCT 3-4 days after the last injection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder View Post
    What is your goal? Where is your BF now?

    Start the PCT 3-4 days after the last injection.
    My goal is to tighten up a lot. I have a lot of volume to my muscle and it is solid but I want it rock hard. My bf, last I checked was 10% but that was on a cheapo caliper at LA fitness (2 weeks ago).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyes View Post
    My goal is to tighten up a lot. I have a lot of volume to my muscle and it is solid but I want it rock hard. My bf, last I checked was 10% but that was on a cheapo caliper at LA fitness (2 weeks ago).

    Use it the last four weeks of your cycle. 50-100mg ED. If you use the higher dose look of dry joints, your A/I will also cause this issue if useage is too high. Just don't think all of a sudden you're over dosing your A/I. You probably already knew this though.

    Good luck.

    99.9% of your recomp is going to come from diet and cardio, but winstrol will do a nice job if your BF is low enough when you decide to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by letsgetbig View Post
    drinking it is a waste..
    about the same as injecting it...
    I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

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    Thank you every1 for your help ^_^ , rep points all around on me

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    drinking it is not the same as injecting it, big big difference, first when injecting winny the muscle that you inject will grow second when drinking it this causes ulcers in your stomach. worst thing ever is drinking injectables or vise versa..

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    Quote Originally Posted by letsgetbig View Post
    drinking it is not the same as injecting it, big big difference, first when injecting winny the muscle that you inject will grow second when drinking it this causes ulcers in your stomach. worst thing ever is drinking injectables or vise versa..

    This is not true. It's the same either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by letsgetbig View Post
    , first when injecting winny the muscle that you inject will grow ..
    Where did you get this information ?
    " A cookie without sugar is just a cracker" ~ ancient voodoo proverb

    "A man with infinite patience is never left waiting."~ROID's past incarnation

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    Never seen any conformation on site specific growth. This sounds like broscience.
    May the plop be on you.

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    A differant idea

    You have had some good comments so far. Chocolate and a few other suggested at the end and that would certainly be my choice aswell. However I would use it the last six weeks because in my opinion it's a finishing compound. By this point in your cycle you should have you'r BF% where you want it and the winny will help you with a harder dryer look and it will also help a lot with strength. I have to disagree with the poster that said it's not effective drinking it. It can be taken orally and would be the exact same as if you were taking tabs. I have taken it orally myself. I just drew it up in a 1cc syringe, take off the pin and shoot it in the back of your throat. It taste a bit sour but it's not bad at all. The most common side effect is dry joints. You can see how 50mgs works and go from there. That would only be a half cc. You really jumped in with both feet doing prop every day. I dont like that much pinning but you should have a great cycle with the prop. Many do love it.

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    One more thing

    You should be taking your adex throughout from day one. .05mgs per day should do. Also I didnt see any where about you'r HCG? IMO you should be doing that 2x wkly and try 250iu's per and see how you do on that. It can be adjusted anytime. Clomid should be your PCT. Choc already has you handled on when to start PCT so I believe this answered all your questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by withoutrulers View Post
    Never seen any conformation on site specific growth. This sounds like broscience.
    site specific growth is a myth because if if it held an ounce of truth every body that injected in the ass would have a GIANT one!

    the only thing that site injections may do is to stretch the muscle facia, very, very little...
    I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

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    I just finished a prop/winny cycle and i ran 100mg ED of prop for 8 weeks and finished the last 3 with 80mg ED winny with some great results!

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