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    what do u think?

    I AM THINKING OF RUNNING A CYCLE OF JUST WINSTROL, 200MG A WEEK. THE REASON FOR THIS IS I WANT TO HAVE LESS WATER AND A HARDER LOOK PLUS IT WONT CONVERT TO ESTROGEN. DOES ANY BODY HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR ME ABOUT THIS? AND FROM WHAT IVE READ THE AFTER U PIN IT HURTS ALOT IS THIS TRU? AS ALLWAYS U GUYS HAVE ALLWAYS GIVEN ME SOUND ADVICE, I NEED THE SAME HERE THANX TO ALL!

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    first i'd say that's about twice the amount per day that even us high doser would use of winny whether it's depot or tabs......without knowing your cycle history and stats and goals it's hard to give some specifics, but as you probably already know TEST as a base + (whatever else you want to use)......along with an AI (but it's not really necessary.....if you choose test prop you'll have even less water and estro conversion shooting ED vs EOD but it's not a major difference.......
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    exactly what irish said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ersin.konuk View Post
    I AM THINKING OF RUNNING A CYCLE OF JUST WINSTROL, 200MG A WEEK. THE REASON FOR THIS IS I WANT TO HAVE LESS WATER AND A HARDER LOOK PLUS IT WONT CONVERT TO ESTROGEN. DOES ANY BODY HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR ME ABOUT THIS? AND FROM WHAT IVE READ THE AFTER U PIN IT HURTS ALOT IS THIS TRU? AS ALLWAYS U GUYS HAVE ALLWAYS GIVEN ME SOUND ADVICE, I NEED THE SAME HERE THANX TO ALL!
    Always run a testosterone as your base for a cycle. Everything else is extras to fine tune your physique. 200 mg a week is a bit low in my opinion. And yes they say winny hurts worst than prop, but the good thing is...you can drink it! ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_2003 View Post
    first i'd say that's about twice the amount per day that even us high doser would use of winny whether it's depot or tabs......without knowing your cycle history and stats and goals it's hard to give some specifics, but as you probably already know TEST as a base + (whatever else you want to use)......along with an AI (but it's not really necessary.....if you choose test prop you'll have even less water and estro conversion shooting ED vs EOD but it's not a major difference.......
    That first part is just not true. He said 200 a week not a day. you can run 50-100 a day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyes View Post
    That first part is just not true. He said 200 a week not a day. you can run 50-100 a day!
    ya, sorry i misread it.....but correct 50-100mg/day.....anything less is a waste to me......if you want the reward, you have to be willing to take the risk
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    i would not recomend stickin yourself with a syringe full of winny. like pyes said...you can drink it. i dont think winny necessarily hurts worse then prop, but its very uncomfortable. it may leave a bit of a lump that may take some time to go away. i had a bad experience with a winny injection while in the final month of prep for a show once. it was a nightmare. thank god the head judge did not call any side tricep or side chest poses to any particular side. i had a nice little knot in my shoulder that i had to get drained a few days later. it was not pleasent.
    everything else that needs to be said has been said.

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    Ok i see! Just to clear up some thing, on my first cycle i used sus250 1cc mon an thur 11 week got good results nolva was my ai took 8weeks off and then my second cycle was cypionate 250 1cc mon and thur and didnt have near the sides i got from the sus. I havent used any ai on this cycle and i just finished a 10 cycle, test c was the best for me i picked up a little bloat and the gains i got from the cypionate was very good better than sus. The only reason i started this thread was i wonderd if u could just run winstrol by it self as i have avalible 3 bottles and i have no exspieriance with it and every thing i have read said nothing about being able to drink . So i think i will just stay with cypionate.

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