Thread: Help With Fat Loss

No clen, it carries too many risks. Clen is what britney spears use to use and look how fat she is now. Clen will, without a doubt, help you lose weight, but it is short lived and too risky. A better option would be an ECA stack. ECA = Ephedrine, caffeine, and asprin. I know nothing about soma, so I cannot help there.

What is soma?

Your best bet for losing weight is ECA like previously mentioned and T3.

You can try clen, you should ramp it it from 40mcgs to whatever you're comfortable with. I know of guys who usually go to 160mcgs a day. Be warned you'll feel tired as hell on it and completely unmotivated. I would advise against it.

Originally Posted by sharoncrunch

I am getting back into my routine after a back injury six yrs ago. My eating and training are good, but can someone help out with dosing for Soma? I am about 136 lbs, 22% bf. I know what's recommended, but heard a woman may need to go higher than a man due to the extra estrogen.

Also thinking about Clen and T3.

Can anyone shed some light?

Thanks

The best way to run clen for a first time IMHO is as follows

1) One week prior to starting the clen have her take her waking temperature(have a thermometer beside the bed and have her take her temp before she even gets out of bed), average these and that is your average resting temp

2) Clen will increase this 0.5-1.0 degree Fahrenheit when it is in it's most effective range

3) start at 20mcg and increase by 20mcgs every 3-4 days until one of these things happens: a) Her blood pressure gets too high, b) the sides she is getting are too strong for her(this is a personal thing), c) her temperature increase 1.0 degrees F or more

if the sides are too strong then decrease dose by 10-20mcgs until tolerable

run 2 weeks on 1 week off

Most females should not need more than 100mcg's daily once the top of the pyramid is reached but there are variations on how individuals respond. I personally had to stop at 60mcg's daily.

T3 dose is 50mcg's daily for any length of time.

I take 40 mcgs a day of clen max. I can't imagine doing more than that, you can feel it working. I think it's quite safe that low a dose. No way i could tolerate doses I read some people take of it. Gotta do 2 weeks on and 2 off. T3 will burn muscle if you take it without anabolics in your system, so only use on cycle. 2 weeks clen then 2 weeks ECA, alternate. Also hearing tetradocyliac acid (spelling may be off, sorry) is very effective for fat lose.

Originally Posted by sharoncrunch

I am getting back into my routine after a back injury six yrs ago. My eating and training are good, but can someone help out with dosing for Soma? I am about 136 lbs, 22% bf. I know what's recommended, but heard a woman may need to go higher than a man due to the extra estrogen.

Also thinking about Clen and T3.

Can anyone shed some light?

Thanks

Soma is a powerful and addictive muscle relaxant. Why are you taking this drug, and how is this related to weight loss? Withdrawal from long term Soma use is nasty.

What if s3) start at 20mcg and increase by 20mcgs every 3-4 days until one of these things happens: a) Her blood pressure gets too high, b) the sides she is getting are too strong for her(this is a personal thing), c) her temperature increase 1.0 degrees

what if she allready has high blood presure? is clen still safe to use ?

Originally Posted by ersin.konuk

What if s3) start at 20mcg and increase by 20mcgs every 3-4 days until one of these things happens: a) Her blood pressure gets too high, b) the sides she is getting are too strong for her(this is a personal thing), c) her temperature increase 1.0 degrees

what if she allready has high blood presure? is clen still safe to use ?

Clen is a stimulant so it will crank you up. I would use something to correct the BP like CQ-10 if it were me.

Originally Posted by muscleguys

I take 40 mcgs a day of clen max. I can't imagine doing more than that, you can feel it working. I think it's quite safe that low a dose. No way i could tolerate doses I read some people take of it. Gotta do 2 weeks on and 2 off. T3 will burn muscle if you take it without anabolics in your system, so only use on cycle. 2 weeks clen then 2 weeks ECA, alternate. Also hearing tetradocyliac acid (spelling may be off, sorry) is very effective for fat lose.

The bolded statement is incorrect. If you have sufficient protein in your diet a low dose of T3 will not "burn" muscle at all.

dont take soma, like MDR said its powerful rx drug. its controlled substance in some states. i used it before, 300mg 4 times a day for my knees, the dr gave me and it makes you very tired and weak. leave that shit alone. there white round tablets. if u have to take them use 1/2 a tablet.

Soma is a very odd drug to say the least.It is not Psychologically addictive,but can cause physical dependance. It is a drug that is hard to get used to doing without once you've gotten used to it.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

The bolded statement is incorrect. If you have sufficient protein in your diet a low dose of T3 will not "burn" muscle at all.

Sorry I wasn't more specific, my understanding is the same, with a LOW DOSE it will not burn muscle, but at the doses many people recomend to take it at, many will say according to their first hand experiences, it does burn muscle. What do you think the cut off is, or a good low dose amount that won't burn muscle, off of gear, would be?

Originally Posted by muscleguys

Sorry I wasn't more specific, my understanding is the same, with a LOW DOSE it will not burn muscle, but at the doses many people recomend to take it at, many will say according to their first hand experiences, it does burn muscle. What do you think the cut off is, or a good low dose amount that won't burn muscle, off of gear, would be?

50mcg's daily is fine if you are consuming regular protein. If I used a higher dose of T3 I would use anabolics.

Thanks, guys, for the input.

My bad, I meant HGH--Somatropin, etc., not soma, the downer. Though HGH might be good for many many reasons (esp. after 30), especially to drop fat.

After all the input, I feel uncomfortable with the clen idea. Not gonna go that way.

I'll try the T3 as you suggested and I'll wait to hear input for HGH.

BTW, any trusted sources for the above?

Thanks again

Originally Posted by sharoncrunch

Thanks, guys, for the input.

My bad, I meant HGH--Somatropin, etc., not soma, the downer. Though HGH might be good for many many reasons (esp. after 30), especially to drop fat.

After all the input, I feel uncomfortable with the clen idea. Not gonna go that way.

I'll try the T3 as you suggested and I'll wait to hear input for HGH.

BTW, any trusted sources for the above?

Thanks again

1-2iu HGH daily.

Shouldn't women, because they produce more gh (naturally occurring) than men, dose higher to see results because of this? Also, to combat the estrogen?

By the way, I love the exchange of ideas and appreciate all the input! Huge thanks!!

Unclem, please PM me your email address so I can reply back to you. Because I have fewer than 20 posts, I am unable to PM.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

1-2iu HGH daily.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

50mcg's daily is fine if you are consuming regular protein. If I used a higher dose of T3 I would use anabolics.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

The bolded statement is incorrect. If you have sufficient protein in your diet a low dose of T3 will not "burn" muscle at all.

So how many mcg's T3 would be effective for a person of my size? (about 135 lbs). Take once a day in the am?

Originally Posted by unclem

dont take soma, like MDR said its powerful rx drug. its controlled substance in some states. i used it before, 300mg 4 times a day for my knees, the dr gave me and it makes you very tired and weak. leave that shit alone. there white round tablets. if u have to take them use 1/2 a tablet.

Hey, unclem, PM me your email so I can get back to you--

Originally Posted by sharoncrunch

So how many mcg's T3 would be effective for a person of my size? (about 135 lbs). Take once a day in the am?

T3 dosing is not based on bodyweight but rather Thyroid output. 50mcg's once daily is standard for moving someone towards hyperthyroidism but only labs can confirm the ideal dose.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Clen is a stimulant so it will crank you up. I would use something to correct the BP like CQ-10 if it were me.

Hmmm, crank me up, how much? I don't want to stroke out over this...

Will it really spike my BP?

I took the supplement Clenbutrix (VPX, I think?) several yrs ago and besides tasting extremely nasty, it made me feel very shaky, which I didn't like. My BP spiked when I took this, so I stopped.

My RHR is usually around 66, 68. On clenbutrix it doubled that---and that's RESTiNG!

Would clen work the same way? I don't know how closely related clenbutrix is to clen.

Thanks, heavyiron. I think I'll go to my primary and get some baseline labs. Time for a routine physical anyway.