Thread: Cycle for a 52 yr old guy?

Sounds good to me..EQ=low water retention. I'd run the test and EQ, keeping in mind that he'll have to run the EQ for at least 10 weeks to get anything out of it. personally I'd throw in proviron at 50mg. ED as well. JMO

Good question, look forward to more suggestions.

if hes a friend of yours sassy i think u know your shit. but hes 52 so 600mg wk of eq and his test is great at 500mg. plus he can use some arimidex or aromasin to stop any water bloat or at least decrease. run eq for a long time as it takes awhile to work. but i think u know this already, your not stupid at all. faty lol.

I take it he's done gear before?

My HRT started me on 400 deca, 600 test, 50mg Winstrol, 50mg Anavar, .5 arimidex and B-12 bi-weekley. Week 4 everything is OK, cholesterol is 96 total, but HDL to LDL ratio is bad. Will be off the Winstrol and Anavar in a few days. I will be headed to the minute clinic to get it checked again end of next week.

if your total cholesterol is under 200 your right at the limit. if higher get some vytorin and lovaza, its rx fish oil , omega 3 fish oil but very potent. that will helkp bring your hdl up and vytorin will bring down your ldl real fast. and your trigglycerides will also get stable and low with lovaza. good luck to u.

Originally Posted by 1mudman

My HRT started me on 400 deca, 600 test, 50mg Winstrol, 50mg Anavar, .5 arimidex and B-12 bi-weekley. Week 4 everything is OK, cholesterol is 96 total, but HDL to LDL ratio is bad. Will be off the Winstrol and Anavar in a few days. I will be headed to the minute clinic to get it checked again end of next week.

That is far from normal HRT and a crock of shit.
I call em like I see em.

Originally Posted by 1mudman

My HRT started me on 400 deca, 600 test, 50mg Winstrol, 50mg Anavar, .5 arimidex and B-12 bi-weekley. Week 4 everything is OK, cholesterol is 96 total, but HDL to LDL ratio is bad. Will be off the Winstrol and Anavar in a few days. I will be headed to the minute clinic to get it checked again end of next week.

Originally Posted by dg806

That is far from normal HRT and a crock of shit.
I call em like I see em.

Thank you dg. Hubby's on 150mg test cyp weekly and this puts his testosterone slightly above normal. I understand this is variable (some guys may need 200mg to achieve normal levels) but it's not THAT variable.

It's three times the test, twice the deca, twice the anavar that my HRT doc has me on, minus the Winstrol. You found yourself a pretty aggressive Doc.

Originally Posted by 2tomlinson

It's three times the test, twice the deca, twice the anavar that my HRT doc has me on, minus the Winstrol. You found yourself a pretty aggressive Doc.

Usually it is just test, in the amounts Built mentioned. Dead on.
If your doc has you on ANY deca and var, you have a good one also!

^^^ i was wonderiing about those doses myself, no way. i got one time shot it was 200mg of test e thats it.

Originally Posted by dg806

Usually it is just test, in the amounts Built mentioned. Dead on.
If your doc has you on ANY deca and var, you have a good one also!

He prescribed the Deca for chronic back pain, and the change has been f-ing amazing. I still get 3 epidurals three times a year, but the Deca (plus lots of working out) have made me pain free for first time in fifteen years. He prescribed the anavar recently after I asked about the safety of trying primobolan. Someone on this forum said Anavar was much better, and he went along with it, no problem. I think a great HRT doc knows when his patient is aggressively seeking to improve his overall health and fitness, and also when he is trying to manipulate the system. It makes a lot more sense to me to take the offensive, use Deca and Test and whatever else available to better one's health than to invest in addicitive pain meds down the road.

tell him to add some HGH

^^^ there you go again, maybe some helpful answers please wfc2010.

Originally Posted by Built

Thank you dg. Hubby's on 150mg test cyp weekly and this puts his testosterone slightly above normal. I understand this is variable (some guys may need 200mg to achieve normal levels) but it's not THAT variable.

Normal for what age level? That's the rub, isn't it? My testosterone, prior to starting HRT, was high normal for my age, which is 59. But who the hell wants that?

Originally Posted by dg806

That is far from normal HRT and a crock of shit.
I call em like I see em.

Lol...

That's some sweet 'HRT'. You think he'd prescribe ganja stacked with some grade 'A' blow for depression?

Originally Posted by WFC2010

tell him to add some HGH

Originally Posted by unclem

^^^ there you go again, maybe some helpful answers please wfc2010.

Actually, Unclem, I was wondering about reasonable amounts of HGH for us older guys. Maybe 2 IU ED, forever?

Originally Posted by Richard Gears

HGH Test/deca my old homie!

if im alive at that age, that'll be my cycle!

You'll be alive and kicking, concupiscent as a rabbit. Thanks to HGH, Test/Deca I feel better at 59 than I did at 45. The change happens so slowly, you don't realize how shitty you feel. Don't let it happen to you. Wish to hell I'd started at 45, those were some achy, painful years.

Originally Posted by 2tomlinson

Normal for what age level? That's the rub, isn't it? My testosterone, prior to starting HRT, was high normal for my age, which is 59. But who the hell wants that?

150mg/week puts hubby above the high end of normal for a young man. The published literature shows 125mg/week dosed long-term once a week puts a man in the upper third of the range when tested one week after the last shot.

Originally Posted by sassy69

Friend of mine - looking for something that is muscle building but not water retentive. He's got HRT script for Test. Also looking at EQ? Has a bag full of anadrol but wants to give his liver a break.

He's leaning towards just Test + EQ. Any other thoughts?

NPP would be the best choice. EQ is more of a cutting agent for most.

Its not a croc of shit, thats what they prescribed and sent me! I did forget to put in the 75mcg of T3 daily also.

Originally Posted by 2tomlinson

You'll be alive and kicking, concupiscent as a rabbit. Thanks to HGH, Test/Deca I feel better at 59 than I did at 45. The change happens so slowly, you don't realize how shitty you feel. Don't let it happen to you. Wish to hell I'd started at 45, those were some achy, painful years.

Concupiscent. Holy vocabulary, Batman! First time I've repped someone for one word. Very nice.

Originally Posted by MDR

Concupiscent. Holy vocabulary, Batman! First time I've repped someone for one word. Very nice.

Steinbeck used it to describe his marine biologist friend, Ed Ricketts. I want it on my tombstone -- give the living a reason to fucking notice.

Originally Posted by 2tomlinson

Steinbeck used it to describe his marine biologist friend, Ed Ricketts. I want it on my tombstone -- give the living a reason to fucking notice.

I'm an English teacher, and I guess just geeky enough to know the meaning. I like the idea about the tombstone. Jumped right out at me, so I had to throw some props your way.

Thx guys - I suggested some eq - he loves the stuff, but I don't really keep up on the ins & outs of guys' cycles. I know he always keeps test as his base, but for some mass increase eq is nice but its slow and since no water (estro), also not as great a builder as something like NPP or deca.

To lifthvy - what does the 50 mg proviron add to this stack? Its more androgenic than anabolic ...

Sassy, I *think* the guys like it as a mild anti-estrogen.

Originally Posted by Built

Sassy, I *think* the guys like it as a mild anti-estrogen.

Gotcha.

NPP? I can't remember! Sorry!