Thread: Tren cough questions

I think you should quit taking steroids. This is not your first cycle and the other 2 cycles did very little for you. You look like me, when I first started lifting weights....you are still young also...You could've easily got to what you look like now, without steroids. I would really hate to sound like a dikk, but I am just calling it like I see it.
How do you have almost 500 posts and no one repped you?

Originally Posted by pyes

I think you should quit taking steroids. This is not your first cycle and the other 2 cycles did very little for you. You look like me, when I first started lifting weights....you are still young also...You could've easily got to what you look like now, without steroids. I would really hate to sound like a dikk, but I am just calling it like I see it.
How do you have almost 500 posts and no one repped you?

That's an old photo actually. 2 years old. I haven't posted on this forum for close to a year and luckily my account still works, first time trying today. So I have not updated anything.

In that case, I humbly withdrawl my comment. I apologise. I do not know much about tren so I can not help there but I think you should be running more prop...I am on prop now and 50 mg ed was'nt doing it for me...I now inject 75-95 mg ed and I am seeing more results.

No worries pyes. I see things have changed around here. Thanks alot for my first rep points

Right, I can understand there being a difference between those amounts. That is basically the difference between 500mg and 750mg - 1g of a longer acting ester of Test.

How long did it take for you to start seeing results (strength, size) from your Prop. I have only used Enanthate and Cyp and they took around 3-4 weeks on average. Also are you doing a Test only cycle ?

Originally Posted by chronicelite

Hey all,

My stats are;

23 years old, 205lbs at 10% body fat.

I am running a Test Prop and Tren Ace cycle.

The prop will run for 10 weeks and the Tren for 6-8 depending on how I feel.

My goal is to add lean size with minimal fat, or maybe even drop a percent or two, as I plan to eat VERY clean and very little sodium.

I have done

Test + EQ + Winny
Test + EQ + Var

And the rest of my cycles have been prohormones like Superdrol and M1T.

Anyways, my question is simple. I found a good local source from a high quality lab of Test Prop and Tren Ace. Now, I have read quite a few horror stories about the Tren Ace injection.

What I am doing right now is injecting ED to keep blood levels stable and lower the amount of Tren per injection.

I am starting with; Test Prop @ 50mg ED and Tren Ace @ 30mg ED (just to see how my body reacts to the Tren) If all goes well I will up it to 37.5mg ED, but since this is my first Tren cycle that is about as high as I will most likely go. I am shooting the Prop and Tren together in the same syringe, switching out the tip after I draw from a 22g to a 25g.

Aspirate of course, and inject very slowly. I am talking like 5-6 minutes per injection. Now, I have read everywhere all over the internet that everybody experiences the cough at least once, so I am trying to prepare myself and lower my chances as much as possible.

I have some salbutamol that I can use in case things get out of hand but I don't even know if that will help. I have heard short rapid breaths can help you get through it in 1-2 minutes versus some people who have suffered for like 4-6 minutes.

Just looking for as much information about avoiding this and what I can do if/when this does happen.

I have done 2 injections so far, always been nervous as hell when doing them, but so far nothing to report. I am also thinking with such a low dose of Tren per injection it's not as big of an issue. FEEDBACK PLEASE

I do not offer info on cycles unless asked specificly and I won't start now. I only posted because I don't think I've ever heard a male doin doses that low with effectiveness. Although I 'm unable to assist you, perhaps you could enlighten me as to a question I'm have'n now. I'm curious as to if doseages your protocol ( tren 150mg wk and test 250 mg wk ) has are provide'n any gains ? You are take'n quite a few shots for such low doseages and I just wondered.


Peace and Love

Originally Posted by Supermans Daddy

I do not offer info on cycles unless asked specificly and I won't start now. I only posted because I don't think I've ever heard a male doin doses that low with effectiveness. Although I 'm unable to assist you, perhaps you could enlighten me as to a question I'm have'n now. I'm curious as to if doseages your protocol ( tren 150mg wk and test 250 mg wk ) has are provide'n any gains ? You are take'n quite a few shots for such low doseages and I just wondered.


Peace and Love

get it

Originally Posted by Supermans Daddy

I do not offer info on cycles unless asked specificly and I won't start now. I only posted because I don't think I've ever heard a male doin doses that low with effectiveness. Although I 'm unable to assist you, perhaps you could enlighten me as to a question I'm have'n now. I'm curious as to if doseages your protocol ( tren 150mg wk and test 250 mg wk ) has are provide'n any gains ? You are take'n quite a few shots for such low doseages and I just wondered.


Peace and Love

Well actually I am doing 50mg x 7 days, which equals 350mg of Test Prop. And that is the equivelant of 500mg of Test Enanthate due to the long chain ester attached to it. Look it up.

And the Tren, I am mainly just gauging how my body responds to it at that dose to see if I can up it to hopefully 37.5mg ED, which is a common dosage actually. I have seen many recommendations to start Tren A at 75mg EOD for people who have never used it before and they see great gains.

I just decided I am doing 50mg ED of Test and 30mg ED of Tren to keep blood plasma levels a little more stable, which I was told may lessen the side effects from Tren.

For clarification, you're pinning 50mg of prop every day? Any particular reason you prefer that over pinning Enanthate like twice a week?

EDIT: nevermind, apparently I missed part of your post

Originally Posted by chronicelite

Well actually I am doing 50mg x 7 days, which equals 350mg of Test Prop. And that is the equivelant of 500mg of Test Enanthate due to the long chain ester attached to it. Look it up.

And the Tren, I am mainly just gauging how my body responds to it at that dose to see if I can up it to hopefully 37.5mg ED, which is a common dosage actually. I have seen many recommendations to start Tren A at 75mg EOD for people who have never used it before and they see great gains.

I just decided I am doing 50mg ED of Test and 30mg ED of Tren to keep blood plasma levels a little more stable, which I was told may lessen the side effects from Tren.

thanks


Peace and Love

I think this guy is too skinny for Tren... He needs a Ham and Cheese Sub at 500mgs ED.


GICH!

Originally Posted by Dark Saney

I think this guy is too skinny for Tren... He needs a Ham and Cheese Sub at 500mgs ED.


GICH!

Yes TREN MASTER

hey guy your doing it all wrong but do it your way, you got alot to learn, and iam no teacher.

Originally Posted by unclem

hey guy your doing it all wrong but do it your way, you got alot to learn, and iam no teacher.

^^^lol.

lol see you all in hell

Originally Posted by unclem

hey guy your doing it all wrong but do it your way, you got alot to learn, and iam no teacher.

I am always open to suggestions, especially if I am doing it "all wrong"

what brand gear you take?

hows first day of injects?

Originally Posted by chronicelite

No worries pyes. I see things have changed around here. Thanks alot for my first rep points

Right, I can understand there being a difference between those amounts. That is basically the difference between 500mg and 750mg - 1g of a longer acting ester of Test.

How long did it take for you to start seeing results (strength, size) from your Prop. I have only used Enanthate and Cyp and they took around 3-4 weeks on average. Also are you doing a Test only cycle ?

I started to notice gains at about 2 weeks...but most noticably around 3-4 weeks. Yes, I am on prop only atm, I have winny but I do not like the way it makes me feel, so i stopped using it. I started at 50mg ed, then pumped it up to 75-95 mg ed...I guess i would've seen more results sooner if i would have started at 75mg ed. I think you should up your dosage also. Although prop is more potent mg for mg, I do not think 350mg is equal to 500 of test e. I think it may be closer to 425-450mgs. I hope this helps, and I apologize if everyone is being rude. They are getting tired of telling the same advice over and over again, i guess.

To address your original question about Tren cough.....You're doing everything correctly to keep the cough to a minimum. Stop stressing. You don't need anything to help subdue it (medicine wise). If it happens the best thing to do is stay relaxed. It will pass.

Originally Posted by pyes

I started to notice gains at about 2 weeks...but most noticably around 3-4 weeks. Yes, I am on prop only atm, I have winny but I do not like the way it makes me feel, so i stopped using it. I started at 50mg ed, then pumped it up to 75-95 mg ed...I guess i would've seen more results sooner if i would have started at 75mg ed. I think you should up your dosage also. Although prop is more potent mg for mg, I do not think 350mg is equal to 500 of test e. I think it may be closer to 425-450mgs. I hope this helps, and I apologize if everyone is being rude. They are getting tired of telling the same advice over and over again, i guess.

Thanks pyes. Yeah I was wondering what I did wrong. I did a search for threads on Tren cough on this forum but couldn't really find any. Maybe I did something wrong when searching, so I figured I would just ask.

And thanks firebird for the advice. I will keep my salbutamol close just in case.

Originally Posted by WFC2010

what brand gear you take?

hows first day of injects?

Im taking Medistair Pharmaceuticals which is the new name for Atlas Pharmaceuticals. It's a Canadian based lab. Never had any problems with them so far. First injection was in my right delt, it stung for a couple hours and ended up bruising. Last two shots were in quads and no problems there.

Today I started getting a funny taste in my mouth shortly after the injection, and I started feeling pressure in my chest. So I prepared myself for war with Tren cough. But it passed and nothing happened.

I used to smoke a lot of weed a few years ago and I would take huge bong hits and cough my guts out so, I am not too worried about this problem anymore. I also had a bout with asthma which was very scary. When I thought the cough was coming I was like LETS DO THIS !!

Originally Posted by chronicelite

Im taking Medistair Pharmaceuticals which is the new name for Atlas Pharmaceuticals. It's a Canadian based lab. Never had any problems with them so far. First injection was in my right delt, it stung for a couple hours and ended up bruising. Last two shots were in quads and no problems there.

Today I started getting a funny taste in my mouth shortly after the injection, and I started feeling pressure in my chest. So I prepared myself for war with Tren cough. But it passed and nothing happened.

I used to smoke a lot of weed a few years ago and I would take huge bong hits and cough my guts out so, I am not too worried about this problem anymore. I also had a bout with asthma which was very scary. When I thought the cough was coming I was like LETS DO THIS !!

hits us with dat webb addy

Originally Posted by The Situation

hits us with dat webb addy

I actually get it from somebody who lives a couple cities away from me. I do not order off of the internet. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, although I think posting sources is against the forum rules anyways.

Originally Posted by chronicelite

No worries pyes. I see things have changed around here. Thanks alot for my first rep points

Right, I can understand there being a difference between those amounts. That is basically the difference between 500mg and 750mg - 1g of a longer acting ester of Test.

How long did it take for you to start seeing results (strength, size) from your Prop. I have only used Enanthate and Cyp and they took around 3-4 weeks on average. Also are you doing a Test only cycle ?

Dude, I've run several prop cycles. In fact I'm running prop 150mg eod and NPP 100mg eod and will finish cycle with var. You need to be doing a minimum of 125mg eod of the prop and at least 100mg eod of the tren. You may or may not get the tren cough. Some people I know run it a lot and have never had the cough, some almost dropped due to not being able to catch their breath from coughing so hard. It's a gamble. But you are not doing enough to be a real cycle in my opinion. up it.

Originally Posted by bufbiker

Dude, I've run several prop cycles. In fact I'm running prop 150mg eod and NPP 100mg eod and will finish cycle with var. You need to be doing a minimum of 125mg eod of the prop and at least 100mg eod of the tren. You may or may not get the tren cough. Some people I know run it a lot and have never had the cough, some almost dropped due to not being able to catch their breath from coughing so hard. It's a gamble. But you are not doing enough to be a real cycle in my opinion. up it.

Ok, I will definitely up the Prop, due to popular opinion to 60mg ED since it's 100mg/mL

I have seen many people do very well with 75mg EOD of Tren A.
And my Tren A is 100mg/mL so I will probably do 40mg ED for the rest of my first week and see what happens. If it goes well, then I will up it to 50mg ED for the rest of the cycle.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Originally Posted by chronicelite

Ok, I will definitely up the Prop, due to popular opinion to 60mg ED since it's 100mg/mL

I have seen many people do very well with 75mg EOD of Tren A.
And my Tren A is 100mg/mL so I will probably do 40mg ED for the rest of my first week and see what happens. If it goes well, then I will up it to 50mg ED for the rest of the cycle.

Thanks for the suggestions.

That's a little better. If your diet is on check you shold definately see much better results at those doses, but still a bit low to be honest. But maybe the ed injects will help with that.

Originally Posted by bufbiker

That's a little better. If your diet is on check you shold definately see much better results at those doses, but still a bit low to be honest. But maybe the ed injects will help with that.

Sorry I made a typo. I upped it to 80mg ED of Prop and 40mg ED of Tren A. Took my injection this morning.

Still no Tren cough