Advice about 1st cycle!

**Jmal0024** · 09-06-2010, 06:39 AM

I'm looking to do a cycle of clen/t3 with some test prop. I'm looking for some advice to whether this would be a good cutting cycle. I've went from 330 to 235 now in about a years time and I've hit a plateau. Would this be a good cycle to run?*

**pyes** · 09-06-2010, 08:33 AM

Yes is it is a ok cutting cycle. You may want to throw tren in there and an ai and pct. Prop is a good choice as it has less water weight then say e or cyp. Do not forget to have a solid diet....Diet is the number one thing in a cutting cycle.

**Tyler3295** · 09-06-2010, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by pyes

Yes is it is a ok cutting cycle. You may want to throw tren in there and an ai and pct. Prop is a good choice as it has less water weight then say e or cyp. Do not forget to have a solid diet....Diet is the number one thing in a cutting cycle.

Judging by his weight loss, he probably isn't very muscular. (No offense OP)

This means his BF% is probably too high to cycle. Much less to cycle, TREN!

He also sounds like this is his first cycle..

**OutWhey** · 09-06-2010, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Jmal0024

I'm looking to do a cycle of clen/t3 with some test prop. I'm looking for some advice to whether this would be a good cutting cycle. I've went from 330 to 235 now in about a years time and I've hit a plateau. Would this be a good cycle to run?*

Sounds like you still have a high amount of body fat to loose. I would not suggest jumping into a cycle just yet. Maybe you should think about posting your diet and getting some suggestions on overcoming the plateau before beginning AAS.

**Tyler3295** · 09-06-2010, 02:22 PM

^Doesn't mean he can't run T3 and/or clen though.

**LAM** · 09-06-2010, 03:36 PM

being the fact this is your first cycle I would go the standard 500mg of test e a week. EOD injections is not really for newbies to AAS.

**juggernaut** · 09-06-2010, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Tyler3295

^Doesn't mean he can't run T3 and/or clen though.

Not true. You ALWAYS want to use some test with t3. Otherwise you're risking loss of tissue.

**juggernaut** · 09-06-2010, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

being the fact this is your first cycle I would go the standard 500mg of test e a week. EOD injections is not really for newbies to AAS.

Agreed. Test E may be a better choice. Of course adding in arimidex at 1/2 tab EOD is good too.

**Tyler3295** · 09-06-2010, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by juggernaut

Not true. You ALWAYS want to use some test with t3. Otherwise you're risking loss of tissue.

I know this.

Anything over 50mcg and muscle loss is almost a certain.

But, it depends on how bad he wants to lose that weight. At his BF, running T3 would be better than running test/T3..

**yan** · 09-06-2010, 04:47 PM

**XYZ** · 09-07-2010, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by juggernaut

Not true. You ALWAYS want to use some test with t3. Otherwise you're risking loss of tissue.

Unless you're eating a ton of protein and running 50mcgs or less.

The aas usage should always be used with higher amounts of T3, 75mcgs and above, however it is really a waste to run any more than 75mcgs in my opinion.

**juggernaut** · 09-07-2010, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by CT

Unless you're eating a ton of protein and running 50mcgs or less.

The aas usage should always be used with higher amounts of T3, 75mcgs and above, however it is really a waste to run any more than 75mcgs in my opinion.

Not only that, but you can suffer side effects such as pitted edema.

**XYZ** · 09-07-2010, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by juggernaut

Not only that, but you can suffer side effects such as pitted edema.

Or rectal bleeding.

**juggernaut** · 09-07-2010, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by CT

Or rectal bleeding.

sounds like fun, but no thanks.

**Tyler3295** · 09-07-2010, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by CT

Unless you're eating a ton of protein and running 50mcgs or less.

The aas usage should always be used with higher amounts of T3, 75mcgs and above, however it is really a waste to run any more than 75mcgs in my opinion.

Thank you.

..and IMHO, unless you need to lose weight very quickly, if you can't lose weight off of 50mcg, something is wrong. (DIET!!!!)

**juggernaut** · 09-07-2010, 02:22 PM

He could go a different way and do a PSMF diet crash for 12 days. It sucks, but it is doable.

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