Thread: which steroids are safest?

Age
Height
Bodyfat%
# of years training

21
6 foot 1
about 12% body fat.

2 years of training hard

would prefer oral. what's ur opinion on that too?

weight?
Im no expert, but oral cycle are more harsh on the body then injectable and you lose more of the gains.

Originally Posted by dubie

i am looking to take a cycle to bulk. i heard decca and dbol stack is the best but that seems a little to much. i want my chances of going sterile at the minimum. so i have a couple questions i hope someone can answer.
1.will i still see good mass gains without stacking?if so whats the range of weight i should gain?(will have a great diet plan and work my *** off)

2.which of dbol decca winstrol anavar and anodrol would give me the most bulk yet very slim chance of going sterile(will have good pct)

3.should i be worried about going sterile if only take a 6 week cycle of just one(not stacking)(and the one you recommend for most bulk)

4. what all should i take to be extra safe from going sterile? during and for pct?

1) on a dbol, deca, and test cycle....you can expect to gain 2-4lbs a week (especially if it is your first cycle).
2) I would say dbol deca, or anadrol...winny and var are used for cutting.
3) No, going sterile is not really an issue (especially if you use hcg during cycle)
4) Try Test (any ester), dbol or anadrol, if this is your first cycle- dont use deca...you will also need (hcg for during cycle and clomid for pct) and aromasin or arimidex (for an AI).
I think you are too worried about something that, if cycled right, will never happen.

You're too young for gear, you haven't even scratched the surface yet.

You need to continue to lift, increase your calories and just keep at it.

AAS useage will come in time but right now you're going to screw yourself up big time.

Everyone wants the quick and easy way to get big, AAS is not the answer. Time, diet and training will do much more for you than AAS will. I wish I had this advice when I was younger.

^^^^ that's good advice, I did'nt see his age post.

to bulk no decent tabs.

Start like everyone testosterone 500mg a week for 12 weeks.

If you wanna go safe as can be, maybe primo but you would nee dto up the dose to 800mg a week and be content with only lean mass not as much as if you trained more and then done testosterone.

I honestly can not argue with Foreman on his advice.

Originally Posted by CT

You're too young for gear, you haven't even scratched the surface yet.

You need to continue to lift, increase your calories and just keep at it.

AAS useage will come in time but right now you're going to screw yourself up big time.

Everyone wants the quick and easy way to get big, AAS is not the answer. Time, diet and training will do much more for you than AAS will. I wish I had this advice when I was younger.

^This says it all. if you wait, you will be glad you did.

[QUOTE=pyes;2063578]1) on a dbol, deca, and test cycle....you can expect to gain 2-4lbs a week (especially if it is your first cycle).
2) I would say dbol deca, or anadrol...winny and var are used for cutting.
3) No, going sterile is not really an issue (especially if you use hcg during cycle)
4) Try Test (any ester), dbol or anadrol, if this is your first cycle- dont use deca...you will also need (hcg for during cycle and clomid for pct) and aromasin or arimidex (for an AI).
I think you are too worried about something that, if cycled right, will never happen.[/QUOTE

great feedback thanks. what is (any ester) and AI?

Originally Posted by MDR

^This says it all. if you wait, you will be glad you did.

how bad do you think one cycle would hurt? and what will it do?6 weeks of dbol

[QUOTE=dubie;2063734]

Originally Posted by pyes

1) on a dbol, deca, and test cycle....you can expect to gain 2-4lbs a week (especially if it is your first cycle).
2) I would say dbol deca, or anadrol...winny and var are used for cutting.
3) No, going sterile is not really an issue (especially if you use hcg during cycle)
4) Try Test (any ester), dbol or anadrol, if this is your first cycle- dont use deca...you will also need (hcg for during cycle and clomid for pct) and aromasin or arimidex (for an AI).
I think you are too worried about something that, if cycled right, will never happen.[/QUOTE

great feedback thanks. what is (any ester) and AI?

This is the perfect reason why you should be waiting, you have no idea.

Not trying to be a jerk, but you just really have no idea how these compounds work and what sides to expect or how to properly treat them.

Dubie, we all want to keep your best interest and safety first. If you deicde to go with a tabs only cycle then as said on other boards by greats guys like heavyiron..... 8 weeks at 50mg of dbol should be good. maybe some provin???? and be sure to have your pct bro.

Originally Posted by dubie

how bad do you think one cycle would hurt? and what will it do?6 weeks of dbol

Six weeks of dbol alone could be very damaging, especially if you took too much per day. A lot of people think like this-it's only for a few weeks, how bad could it be? Very, very bad. You heed to educate yourself and get some kind of idea what you are doing, or you are likely to really cause yourself damage.

Tabs only= waste of money. I did a Dbol only for my first cycle and lost all of it. The results came off all most as fast as they started.

Keep in mind when you cycle (I have learned a lot by error safely) horrible acne, high blood pressure, and lipid levels bad.

If your going to do it, do it right or do not do it at all. Do not listen to your gym buddies that they just want your money...

Get your blood tests done (complete tests)
Get your diet down pact first. My friend just did a deca, dbol, test cycle and got shit gains and his gear is good. Just because his carb intake was WAY to low and did not eat enough. He ate clean, but did not have it dialed in.

Diet is the best thing you can do to get gains. Other then that you will need all your other supplements, liver support, lipid support (krill or fish oil) what pct are you going to use and ect. There is allot more to it then just taking a pill or taking a shot. You need to realize and learn how long stuff will stay active to keep your test levels stable.

For example, I was on Test P and Tren E. I got off at the same time and started to PCT. My test levels dropped and I broke out extremely bad. I didn't even break out until I stopped my test. The week I stopped my cycle I broke out like crazy. After talking to a few people I should have cruised on test for a few more weeks then PCT. There is allot of info that you need to know before you cycle and honestly if your acting these questions your not ready to cycle. This is stuff you should know before you start.

He's gonna do a cycle even if you tell him he's too young.

Originally Posted by boss

He's gonna do a cycle even if you tell him he's too young.

That's on him. It still needs to be said. There is no reason to give bad advice just because you don't think someone is going to listen.