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    Extending cycle SMART?

    I am wondering what are the negatives of staying on a cycle for say 20 weeks instead of 10 weeks and then going on pct? I know a few of my bros stay on a cycle for damn near the whole year, so would 20 weeks of 500 mg test cyp per week plus some other goodies be that bad?

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    if you want to destroy your receptors and your natural test. I think 20 weeks is a bit too long and you can probably get away with it...but a whole years is crazy.

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    better get some hcg

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    depends on the person as to the effects. personally I've stayed on cycle for over a year before with no ill effects but I also typically stay with in pharmacological dosages for the anabolics and on the low end of the dosage scale for the heavy androgens. I always get some blood work done before hand so I have some baseline readings for my current health status.
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    The longer the cycle, longer the recovery time.

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    14-16 weeks ok..20 is to long
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    longest ive stayed on real heavy was 3 yrs. but did have bloods done and alot younger. but the dosages were high but when i came off to low doses my bones from head to toe killed. now its just 12 wks then low dose bridge all yr long. iam pretty healthy, liver great but i dont think my lipids are that bad i mean meds control all my bad readings. so no ill effects. 20 wks , go for it but get your bloods done every 3 months.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pyes View Post
    if you want to destroy your receptors and your natural test. I think 20 weeks is a bit too long and you can probably get away with it...but a whole years is crazy.
    buddy WTF are YOU talking about!!?!?!??
    your joking right? if not you should do some basic research on the human body and receptores and NOT give out advice.
    they DONT downgrade, they DONT get destroyed by aas.
    they are dying and growing EVERY F-ing DAY.

    i assum your going to say next "then why do gains slow" ??....
    there are alot of rees
    1) SHBG
    2)mayostatin
    3)not increasing cals with lbs (Diet)
    4)trainning not being changed up
    and i could go on.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldPainless View Post
    I am wondering what are the negatives of staying on a cycle for say 20 weeks instead of 10 weeks and then going on pct? I know a few of my bros stay on a cycle for damn near the whole year, so would 20 weeks of 500 mg test cyp per week plus some other goodies be that bad?
    i wouldent rec cycles year round or very long, specially if not already on HRT/TRT. and even if you where Id keep an eye on your blood and body whil on.
    i WOULD rec 14-16wk cycles I like mine longer myself.
    and go 18wks easy changing compounds midway and cycleing orals a couple times.

    I ran a nice one a while back of:
    GP deca 300mg ew wk1-12
    Omnas 750mg ew wk1-20
    GP mast 400mg ew wk12-20
    wk20 back to HRT
    (letro on hand and used at 0.6mg e3d when needed)

    I dont rec that long thow normally.
    Last edited by blergs.; 09-09-2010 at 02:46 PM.

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    Tops I like to go is 18 weeks.

    2 more weeks than that isn't THAT big of a difference.

    Like said though, the longer the cycle, the longer recovery time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blergs. View Post
    buddy WTF are YOU talking about!!?!?!??
    your joking right? if not you should do some basic research on the human body and receptores and NOT give out advice.
    they DONT downgrade, they DONT get destroyed by aas.
    they are dying and growing EVERY F-ing DAY.
    this is a very old misconception that the AR on the myocyte downregulates with extended AAS use. In reality to date scientists don't know why the body stops responding to supplemental AAS use after "X" amount of time. If the AR receptor did truly downregulate the user would not only lose gains from the cycle but would shrink to a smaller size than before the cycle.

    there are still a lot of unknows about AAS use and gene expression. the "AR downregulation" theory is pretty much debunked because for decades now AAS users have been switching compounds and continued to get gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    this is a very old misconception that the AR on the myocyte downregulates with extended AAS use. In reality to date scientists don't know why the body stops responding to supplemental AAS use after "X" amount of time. If the AR receptor did truly downregulate the user would not only lose gains from the cycle but would shrink to a smaller size than before the cycle.

    there are still a lot of unknows about AAS use and gene expression. the "AR downregulation" theory is pretty much debunked because for decades now AAS users have been switching compounds and continued to get gains.
    DING DING. If receptors burned out then how in the hell do some of the IFBB get as large as they do? lol

    The more advanced you are with AAS, the more advance the cycle can be. But it would take years to accomplish this and ALWAYS have a PCT or an idea to cruise on HRT dose as a back up.

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