Hey guys. This is the first time I have ever messed with anabolics and I have a few questions. First, I am a 40 something yr old that races moto-x and I'm trying to recover faster from training and some muscle damage due to a wreck. A buddy gave me sustanon250 and I dont know how much I should use, or if its even what I wanna take. I got a 250ml bottle, but nothing to do it with. I used a little diabetic needle and used 13 units last night, didnt put much of a dent in the bottle, at that pace the bottle will last forever. Am I using enough? Also, I was thinking about growth hormone to recover from injuries, any input? If I sound like an amatuer, sorry... I am. I just wanna get back to racing. Any help is really appreciated. Thanks
You will need 10 - 3ml syringes, 10 - 18 gauge draw needles, 10 - 23 gauge 1" or 1 1/2" injection needles, a box of alcohol prep swipes or at least a bottle of alcohol and sterile cotton balls. I like to have several extra needles in case you accidentally touch or drop them or sometimes it just seems like you get a dull one that really doesnt want to go in and I will replace it instead of messing around with it.
You will need to sanitize the area you are going to use to do the injection with alcohol or bleach. Lay down a clean paper towel and get your syringe and needles out of package but leave the protective caps on. Take a alcohol prep pad and clean the top of the sust all the way around even the metal part. Clean the area on your quad you are going to inject into with alcohol.
Now screw on the 18 gauge draw pin and pull back on the syringe until the plunger is slightly past 1 1/4 ml. insert into center rubber on sust and push plunger untill all the air is in the bottle. Turn bottle and syringe upside down and pull back and get about 1 1/4 ml sust in plunger then push plunger until you have exactly 1ml in syringe. Turn bottle back up right and draw back on syringe until all the product is out of needle. Replace cap on needle and screw it out and discard of properly. Replace with 23 gauge and take cap off and push plunger until all air and a little bit of sust runs out the end. Do not shake it off as it makes a good lubricant for the needle.
Now, find a spot on the OUTER QUAD, one fist above the knee cap and 1 fist below the hip socket. Make sure you have disinfected this area with alcohol! do not inject untill all alcohol is dry or its going to hurt like a bitch! With the hand that is not holding the syringe spread and tighten skin, you want to inject at a 90 degrees to the muscle so come in from the side square to the quad. Now in one swift motion insert needle all the way in. At this point I useally grab the syringe down low and hold it steady and pull back on plunger until I see "air" bubbles, it is not air but thats another story. If you do not see any blood slowly push plunger until all contents in syringe are gone. It takes me at least 30 seconds sometime for about 1ml of oil and the slower you go the less bruising and pain from injection you are going to feel. Take fingers and pull skin tight and remove needle, immediately take a prep swipe and cover and rub area for a minute or two. As soon as you are sure the bleeding has stopped, clean up area and discard syringes and needles properly. I like to get on a exercise bike or a real bike and go around the neighborhood for about 30 mins. This seems to keep things from knotting up and getting sore.
If you got blood in the syringe when you asperated you will need to pull it out and replace needle and try a new spot.
I am unsure of the dosage of sust and people with experience with sust will chime in and get you going.
The info I have gathered for a first time user suggest 250mg a week, so if your sust is dosed at 250mg/ml a 1ml injection once a week should be good and help your recovery quite a bit.
I believe the common dosage of Sustanon for a first timer would be approx. 500mg e/w... 250mg every 4th day (for example one shot on tuesday, and one on friday).
And I do know that if you want to recover faster after being injured, you should be taking Deca.. or add some Deca to the Sustanon.
For example, do 500mg Sustanon e/w for 10 weeks, and 3-400mg deca e/w for 9 weeks.. Stop with the deca 1 week before you stop with the sust... And do some PCT 2 weeks after last injection of sustanon.
Wait a second here. there is a lot of info being given and no one really knows what they are talking about.
shoot 1cc, 2 times a week (monday and thursday) for 8 to 12 weeks..if you do not have enough for that, then do not use it as you will just waste it. Diabetic needles will not work as they are meant for subcutaneous injections....test has to go into muscle. You will need 22 to 25 g 3cc syringes @ 1.5'' . Do not take deca to recover from an injury. You will also need an AI like aromasin or arimidex...and you will aslo need a pct like clomid. If you do not know what these things are , then you need to research before injecting again as your first injection was useless. so that is your cycle:
sus 500mg week for 8-12 weeks
aromasin
clomid
If you do not have these basic items, do not even start the cycle.
ps, do not draw with a 18g as they ruin the rubber stopper with the first pin.
Human growth hormone these days has been advertised in so many ways, including the fact of its' probable effectiveness in healing sports injuries. It is a known fact that HGH is also marketed as a drug to enhance performance in sports, which is questionable at best. However because of all the marketing hype and all the endorsements HGH receives from both athletes and celebrities, it is easy to be enticed and join the HGH bandwagon. Therefore this additional claim of improved healing by the manufacturers does not come as much of a surprise because of its' connection to sports.
What studies have shown is the fact that HGH does have an effect on bone tissue and faster healing in cases of fractures. The problem faced here is that there have been no concrete clinical studies presented to prove long term effectiveness and possible side-effects. Furthermore, these athletes also think that taking HGH can increase their energy while at the same time, they think that they are able to work harder than ever, and still recuperate faster. Again, no concrete tests have shown that this is actually true. It is all the fruit of marketing strategies with the aim of selling the most HGH products humanely possible.
Hey guys. This is the first time I have ever messed with anabolics and I have a few questions. First, I am a 40 something yr old that races moto-x and I'm trying to recover faster from training and some muscle damage due to a wreck. A buddy gave me sustanon250 and I dont know how much I should use, or if its even what I wanna take. I got a 250ml bottle, but nothing to do it with. I used a little diabetic needle and used 13 units last night, didnt put much of a dent in the bottle, at that pace the bottle will last forever. Am I using enough? Also, I was thinking about growth hormone to recover from injuries, any input? If I sound like an amatuer, sorry... I am. I just wanna get back to racing. Any help is really appreciated. Thanks
You need to do some reseach first and then come back and post some questions. Honestly, this has disaster written all over it.
I have a 250ml multiuse bottle (10ml doses). So I guess I am supposed to get 25 doses, but my friend says he gets 10 doses per. I was just wondering if anyone has used this dosage. I have been training (off and on) for over 25 yrs, but have never been used any supplements. I train like an animal, eat right, and take this seriously. If I didn't want to get back to what I love so much, I wouldn't bother. However, I DID do some research, but I wanted to get some input from people who have actually used this product. Remember I am in my mid 40's, so (from my research) this is actually a drug that is used for guys my age. By the way, I used the deltoid for injection site with the small needle thinking (since my delts are all muscle from 25 yrs of construction and training) I would definately be in the muscle. Am I wrong? Also, I have a shoulder injury...would injecting near the injured muscle make a difference? I used healthy delt last night.
The Captn' is a half retarted Jew, He is a Mod in anything goes because of his fucked up thought process. Its not like he is a mod in a quality of life section like diet or aas. But is definitly needed to ass rape fools like J4CKT. He is the light of anything goes and will guide us to the promise land of debauchery, tranny diddleing and closet gheyness.
I am willing to bet that 18's have damaged your stoppers...I will almost put up my truck by saying your vials cannot hold air.
Originally Posted by wayno51
I have a 250ml multiuse bottle (10ml doses). So I guess I am supposed to get 25 doses, but my friend says he gets 10 doses per. I was just wondering if anyone has used this dosage. I have been training (off and on) for over 25 yrs, but have never been used any supplements. I train like an animal, eat right, and take this seriously. If I didn't want to get back to what I love so much, I wouldn't bother. However, I DID do some research, but I wanted to get some input from people who have actually used this product. Remember I am in my mid 40's, so (from my research) this is actually a drug that is used for guys my age. By the way, I used the deltoid for injection site with the small needle thinking (since my delts are all muscle from 25 yrs of construction and training) I would definately be in the muscle. Am I wrong? Also, I have a shoulder injury...would injecting near the injured muscle make a difference? I used healthy delt last night.
10ml vial of 250 sus = 10 injections....your friend is correct....and that is not enough for you to cycle with bud. Your diabetic pin is too small..you have to shoot it deep into the muscle....If you are cut to the bone, you can get away with a 1'' pin. I think diabetic pins are 3/8'' or 5/8''...this just wont work....you may have hit muscle, but just barely....Injections will not affect your injury, so no worries there. If you need syringes, I will sell you 10 or so for $5...just to help ya out. Either way you only have 5 days of gear and you will not notice anything but increased libido...It will not help your training.
Listen to these guys and take there advice, soak it up, research it and research it some more... Bro, i have been reading just about everything these guys have been giving advice on and they are vets and have lots of knowledge... I have really learned alot in the little time since i joined and it has made me wait to start my gear till i aquire more knowledge of using gear... hats off to these guys in this thread, they give great advice and guys like you and i that have never used gear should use their experience and expertise to our benefit.. you can go about it how you want, but there is tons of great info and experienced people on here to help you understand more... I kno i have learned a hell of alot and need to learn alot more before i start just using any type of gear.... just a little advice bro, take it or not is up to you, but i am... thanks to all you guys in this thread and on the forum.... and you all kno who you are!
you dont even have enuff to takre to do anything noticable but shut you down after!!
unless your bottle is 30ml wich i doubt.
you should read up on this before you go stickign yourself. theres alot i want ot say right now but im not even gonna bother flaming you its toomuch to say.
do you usually take drugs with out even doing the most basic of research on them?
cuz thats what i see.
It says SUSTANON 250 on top, then 10ml sterile multidose vial for intramuscular injection in the middle, then in red ink below it says 250 mg/ml. I am not trying to pack on weight or mass or use it to look good; I am hoping to recover from a shoulder injury thats been nagging me for 5 weeks. A fellow racer and guy close to my age uses it and swears by it. I already know what he has told me, I was hoping to get a few others' opinions. I have access to more if I need or want it, but I'm beginning to wonder if I should even mess with it.
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