Thread: Take a look at this stack

If im not mistaking your test e should be around 600mg if your taking 300mg of deca. You can take it how ever you want but I think the correct way is to do 2 times more the amount of test when stacking with deca. Please someone verify this. Will you be running HCG?

Why not keep the doses steady ?

And start with the Deca & Dbol at the same time as the Test, but end the deca 1 week before you end the test (Then PCT 2 weeks after last test injection).


Im guessing most will tell you to up the doses also..

Ive seen many people say you should double the test compared to the deca but i never have, ive never needed to use HCG as ive never had any shrinkidge of my nattys. Just out of interest why have you started the test at a different time to the deca, why not run the deca for first 10 weeks and the test right the way through. 6 weeks on dbol kick is what i do as it takes about that for the test to start to really work on me but then everyone is different. There is a good PCT protocol written up so i would look at that, im on a small dose of trt so i dont normally follow a pct. Good luck mate. Looking at the dose of test you may want to double it but again thats just me. This is JMO.

Originally Posted by slyfox

Hello guys, this is my mass stack for this winter what do you think of it?
And if anyone can point me how to use PCT that would be great.

----D-BOL----DECA---- TEST ENAT.

1. -20mg
2. -25mg ----200mg
3. -25mg ----250mg ----250mg
4. -25mg ----250mg -----250mg
5. -25mg ----300mg -----250mg
6. -20mg ----300mg -----250mg
7. -----------300mg ----250mg
8. -----------300mg ----250mg
9. -----------250mg ----250mg
10. --------- 200mg ----250mg



Ok this is my "strategy". Keeping the D-BOL short (only 6 weeks) to kickstart the cycle and that's why there is no big variation in doses. Using the deca from the 2nd week and keeping it until the 10th week. Adding the ethanate to prevent the "deca dick". I'm not really sure where to add the PCT i haven't used until now cuz i had some 3-4 cycles with only really small doses. Now what's your opinion on this one?

Run the Dbol for weeks 1 - 4 and then weeks 9-12
Run the Deca and Test weeks 1 - 10
Double your Test dosage to 250mg twice per week
Keep your Deca at 250mg per week
Run HCG at 250iu twice per week for weeks 1 - 12

Test will take between 11 and 12 days to clear your system. The Deca will take the better part of two weeks to clear and the Dbol is a few hours. So the HCG is run while the esters are clearing form your system.

What are you planning for your PCT

Originally Posted by paolo584

If im not mistaking your test e should be around 600mg if your taking 300mg of deca. You can take it how ever you want but I think the correct way is to do 2 times more the amount of test when stacking with deca. Please someone verify this. Will you be running HCG?

Those numbers are just based on bro science,no scientific studies will prove what you're saying...

Originally Posted by Testonut

Why not keep the doses steady ?

And start with the Deca & Dbol at the same time as the Test, but end the deca 1 week before you end the test (Then PCT 2 weeks after last test injection).


Im guessing most will tell you to up the doses also..

^^^^+100

You want steady level of hormones but i know Heavy use to ramp up on short cycle of test...10 weeks is a short cycle and if you're on HCG during cycle ,your testes will still be at work so for pct...50 mg of clomid(clomiphene citrate)would be enough!!!Having Nolva on hands is a proven way of counteracting gyno,if it occurs...Stopping Deca before the test would also be very wise since 19-Nors takes way more time to clear the system...Caber or dostinex is a nice add-on in case prolactin level rise but at that dose of deca i wouldn't care...

test doesnt need to be double the nandro, just higher.

I wouldnt run nandro under 300, test 500. You could up dbol to 30mg for that length of time. Dont split the dbol dose, take it all 1hr preWO

caber is not necessary at 300-400mg nandrolone . . I would consider it at 500+

Originally Posted by Marquis du Gears

test doesnt need to be double the nandro, just higher.

I wouldnt run nandro under 300, test 500. You could up dbol to 30mg for that length of time. Dont split the dbol dose, take it all 1hr preWO

caber is not necessary at 300-400mg nandrolone . . I would consider it at 500+

I wouldn't offend you sir,but could you bring something like a study or anything else to proove that point,some peoples i know were running more tren and deca together than test mg for mg,with no sides...As long as the test dase you're help you keep your libido everything's fine...I did lots of research on the topic and was sharing same opinion as you before but couldn't fing anything,anywhere to back this up!

deca and tren together? sounds interesting, i thought that was a big no no!!

Running that in the way you have laid out is going to lead to loss of libido, erectile disfunction and unstable blood levels. More homework is needed.

Originally Posted by CT

Running that in the way you have laid out is going to lead to loss of libido, erectile disfunction and unstable blood levels. More homework is needed.

Yes you are absolutely right!

Originally Posted by aja44

Run the Dbol for weeks 1 - 4 and then weeks 9-12
Run the Deca and Test weeks 1 - 10
Double your Test dosage to 250mg twice per week
Keep your Deca at 250mg per week
Run HCG at 250iu twice per week for weeks 1 - 12

Test will take between 11 and 12 days to clear your system. The Deca will take the better part of two weeks to clear and the Dbol is a few hours. So the HCG is run while the esters are clearing form your system.

What are you planning for your PCT

PCT :
Clomid 50mg, Nolvadex 20mg / Creatine / Vitamin C/ OMEGA 3 / Essentiale Forte

Originally Posted by Testonut

Why not keep the doses steady ?

And start with the Deca & Dbol at the same time as the Test, but end the deca 1 week before you end the test (Then PCT 2 weeks after last test injection).


Im guessing most will tell you to up the doses also..

Okay, i don't want to screw this one up, how would your cycle be if you had D-BOl 100 tabs/10mg, DECA 10ml/300mg and TEST. ENAT. 8 ampules / 250mg. ? And also 2 x Nolvadex 30tab/10mg , 3 x Clomid 10tab/50mg.
I would appreciate it.

i dont like your cycle.
Start the dbol, deca and test all at the same time. You can run your test as the same dosage as the deca, everyone reacts differently. Run the test two weeks past the deca and you only really need the dbol for 4 weeks. I feel like anymore than that you'll be putting on excess water weight.
Also, caber is not needed

Originally Posted by themoreyouknow

i dont like your cycle.
Start the dbol, deca and test all at the same time. You can run your test as the same dosage as the deca, everyone reacts differently. Run the test two weeks past the deca and you only really need the dbol for 4 weeks. I feel like anymore than that you'll be putting on excess water weight.
Also, caber is not needed

This is the second time you have stated caber is not needed, can you please tell me when it's needed? Why are you suggesting that he run the test and deca at the same amounts? Thanks.

time for a new thread . .

Originally Posted by CT

This is the second time you have stated caber is not needed, can you please tell me when it's needed? Why are you suggesting that he run the test and deca at the same amounts? Thanks.

I dont think caber is needed at sub-400mg/EW of deca, I never used it when using 400mg. And everyone is different, you CAN run deca and test at the same dosage and still not get deca dick. I frequently run deca/test at 500-600mg/EW and never had a problem.

Originally Posted by Marquis du Gears

test doesnt need to be double the nandro, just higher.

I wouldnt run nandro under 300, test 500. You could up dbol to 30mg for that length of time. Dont split the dbol dose, take it all 1hr preWO

caber is not necessary at 300-400mg nandrolone . . I would consider it at 500+

What is your logic behind this statement?

Originally Posted by themoreyouknow

I dont think caber is needed at sub-400mg/EW of deca, I never used it when using 400mg. And everyone is different, you CAN run deca and test at the same dosage and still not get deca dick. I frequently run deca/test at 500-600mg/EW and never had a problem.

You just contradicted yourself. Which is it you don't need it for under 400mg a week or that everyone is different?