Thread: HCG help??

Originally Posted by guybb3

MDR and RoadKing have said that HCG needs to be run during AAS cycle for best results (I believe them). Here's the problem. A friend (cough cough) has been on Test and EQ for 5 weeks now. Is it too late to start HCG? Should it wait til the end of the cycle? Any help and advice would be appreciated and listened to.

Start now. How bad is the atrophy?

Maybe kick start at 1000iu per week for 2 weeks, then down to 500iu per week until the end of the cycle.

Originally Posted by chronicelite

Start now. How bad is the atrophy?

Maybe kick start at 1000iu per week for 2 weeks, then down to 500iu per week until the end of the cycle.

Never hang much to begin with and not doing huge amounts of test.

Doesnt matter how much test your running. something as small as 200mg will shut most people down. Never TOO late to start, but never late is better. This also depends alot on what ester of test you are using. If your using prop I would think that you are going to be more shut down than Test C. Reason being is that your body has been utilizing the test longer.

As chronicle said, start right away. His idea of a bigger dose to start with and then back down is what I woulds do. Most start HCG in week two and run it right up until day before PCT starts. There are only two ways to run HCG. Either at the end or during cycle. During cycle keep the balls from atrophy and makes PCT that much easier. Apparently you didnt do much research before starting to do testosterone. Some old school fellas still do big doses of HCG at the end but it's not my preferance. I hope you have it on hand. I also hope you have been doing your ai's. Do you have clomid for PCT? If you cant say yes to all these things you shouldnt have started. Here's a scenerio for you. What if....All of a sudden your tit got all swolen and was itchy as hell and tender to the touch? What would you do? Do you have nolvadex on hand and if so do you know how much to use and for how long? The answer is I hope you have nolvadex on hand and I dont mean some generic shit I mean tamoxifin citrate(nolvadex). Then if you got these symptoms you would begin a dose of 20mgs per day until all symptoms went away and then discontinue. Your ai would have started from day one also. I hopoe you have that covered. If it were arimadex I assume you would have been taking .5mgs every other day. But yes...To answer your question start the HCG. Since you apparently are on a small dose I would think that 250iu's mon & thurs should suffice.I dont mean to rag on ya buddy I'm just trying to help.

Its not to late i was 5 weeks in or so when i finally got some (ppl talking mad shit and not coming through....) im 12 weeks in and my nutz are nice and big and full! Just watch your dose

Start now.

500iu HCG twice weekly. Wait 3.5 days before taking the next inject.

Originally Posted by guybb3

Never hang much to begin with and not doing huge amounts of test.

Hanging and shrinking are 2 diff things brother.

Originally Posted by REXORE

Its not to late i was 5 weeks in or so when i finally got some (ppl talking mad shit and not coming through....) im 12 weeks in and my nutz are nice and big and full! Just watch your dose

Thanx for the mental picture dikk...lol

Originally Posted by Roaddkingg

As chronicle said, start right away. His idea of a bigger dose to start with and then back down is what I woulds do. Most start HCG in week two and run it right up until day before PCT starts. There are only two ways to run HCG. Either at the end or during cycle. During cycle keep the balls from atrophy and makes PCT that much easier. Apparently you didnt do much research before starting to do testosterone. Some old school fellas still do big doses of HCG at the end but it's not my preferance. I hope you have it on hand. I also hope you have been doing your ai's. Do you have clomid for PCT? If you cant say yes to all these things you shouldnt have started. Here's a scenerio for you. What if....All of a sudden your tit got all swolen and was itchy as hell and tender to the touch? What would you do? Do you have nolvadex on hand and if so do you know how much to use and for how long? The answer is I hope you have nolvadex on hand and I dont mean some generic shit I mean tamoxifin citrate(nolvadex). Then if you got these symptoms you would begin a dose of 20mgs per day until all symptoms went away and then discontinue. Your ai would have started from day one also. I hopoe you have that covered. If it were arimadex I assume you would have been taking .5mgs every other day. But yes...To answer your question start the HCG. Since you apparently are on a small dose I would think that 250iu's mon & thurs should suffice.I dont mean to rag on ya buddy I'm just trying to help.

Yes to everything you said RK. The only thing is I USED to think was that, HCG was for the end of the cycle. You guys have told me in firm terms NOW is better. I had clomid, nolva, and HCG long before I had gear. I'm still learning and thank you guys for all the help.

Originally Posted by pyes

Hanging and shrinking are 2 diff things brother.

You know what, Pyes, I totally misunderstood the concept. You guys mean your nuts themselves atrophy not your sack, correct? Before I forget it's Test Cyp. BigBoiH

Some guys still do use HCG at the end of their cycles in larger doses ofcourse. But think of it like this. Why let you balls atrophy in the first place when it can be prevented. Plus it helps your PCT be that much easier. Just one less thing to try to fix. You can keep taking the HCG right up until day before you start your clomid for PCT. That would be for the 14 days while you are waiting for the esters to clear. And continue with your ai right up until that point aswell. Some guys run their ai's from day one right up until PCT is finished. Personally I dont see why that would be needed but could run it until you start your clomid.