Thread: A bit nervous about first cycle.

Don't go below 500mg per week.

And do a 10 week cycle.

Nolva will mess with your gains while on cycle. I would try and find some Adex or Aromasin. I know it's not in your budget, but Nolva lowers your Growth Hormone levels.

Run 500iu per week of HCG if cost permits....

Gyno should not be an issue at that dosage unless you have a high body fat percentage. I am super gyno prone, and I had no issues with a low dose like that, even stacked with EQ. It wasn't until I hit 750mg and above.

Calorie intake depends on your current weight and body fat percentage....... what is your current maintenance levels ?
How tall are you? What is your experience in bodybuilding?

this is your first round no need to go above 500mg crap you will do just fine on 400mg a week

week 1-10
400mg week of testosterone
250iu twice weekly HCG

PCT clomid
100/50/50/25 done

if you feel any gyno symptoms take .25mg or .5mg of adex EOD


but first and foremost what are your stats and goals

I would drop the nolva during cycle, unless you needed it. I'd go for an aromatase inhibitor first, in moderation.

As for the clomid recommendation, I prefer nolvadex - but some people do just fine on clomid. I lose huge strength very quickly and I become very moody (read: girly) in a bad way. It seems to be more powerful than ANY estrogen in my body.

Originally Posted by Mudge

I would drop the nolva during cycle, unless you needed it. I'd go for an aromatase inhibitor first, in moderation.

As for the clomid recommendation, I prefer nolvadex - but some people do just fine on clomid. I lose huge strength very quickly and I become very moody (read: girly) in a bad way. It seems to be more powerful than ANY estrogen in my body.

You lose strength on clomid or nolva ?

You should SERIOUSLY consider doing more research on the boards before starting. There are MANY issues with what you've got laid out, I'm just too lazy right now to type it all out.

Originally Posted by CT

You should SERIOUSLY consider doing more research on the boards before starting. There are MANY issues with what you've got laid out, I'm just too lazy right now to type it all out.

So better overall to use Arimidex in moderation and keep the nolva for emergencies?

Sorry, my current stats are 170lbs, 5'8"

I'm lookng to break my DL and squat plateaus and to see how I look at 180! haha

Originally Posted by SirPump

So better overall to use Arimidex in moderation and keep the nolva for emergencies?

Sorry, my current stats are 170lbs, 5'8"

I'm lookng to break my DL and squat plateaus and to see how I look at 180! haha

Thats what he said. Some say use arimidex .5 EOD day some say every 3. Some will only take it in PCT. Most lean to the EOD. Nolva is for only when you get gyno symptoms. I agree you need to do more research.

I would keep a low dose, but constant use of nolva/clomid OR arimidex/aromasin during the cycle starting after week two on a test like primo. No need to wait for gyno symptoms to appear, then a small peak post-cycle when test levels drop.

But if nolva will mess with my workouts, I can wait a month and fit the inhibitor into my budget

Originally Posted by SirPump

I would keep a low dose, but constant use of nolva/clomid OR arimidex/aromasin during the cycle starting after week two on a test like primo. No need to wait for gyno symptoms to appear, then a small peak post-cycle when test levels drop.

But if nolva will mess with my workouts, I can wait a month and fit the inhibitor into my budget

If you cannot fit what you need into your budget at this time to be safe, DONT DO IT!!!! Wait another few weeks/months and buy the correct test and ancillaries and run a safe cycle.

Weeks 1-10 - 500mg Test Cyp (shoot M and Thur @ 250mg)
Weeks 1-10 - .5mg Adex EOD
Weeks 2-10 - 500ius HCG (shoot M and Thur @ 250iu)

PCT
weeks 11-12 - 500ius HCG
weeks 13-16 - Clomid 100/75/50/50

You would continue to take the HCG while the test ester is clearing your body which is about 12-14 days with Cyp.

Have the Nolva on hand if you experience any Gyno. But dont take the Nolva unless you need it.

That is a safe cycle that you will have good results with and will give you the discipline to keep your diet in check as well as keeping with a cycle schedule. Plus only running a single ester will allow you to gauge the reaction on the body before you begin adding more esters into a stacked cycle.

Good luck.

Ok guys, thanks all for the feedback.

I found 28 Arimidex tablets here for $130 dlls (have not found generic anastrozole or aromatase anywhere in Mexico, only original arimidex ... at least my test comes from the pharmacy hehe, no prescription necessary >=)

So I can do Arimidex @ 0.5mg/day during my cycle and keep some nolvadex on hand. I was thinking 1mg/day and that made it too expensive, but 0.5 is an ok price to avoid becoming a bloated estrogen creature for two months.

I guess I'll start this Monday

Hmm... week two hits right around my trip to blizzcon, might have to fuck a blood elf, or will arimidex help me with this new problem?