My Last Big Cutting Cycle Outlined Here

**XYZ** · 10-13-2010, 02:12 PM

I started this at 11% bf.

CYCLE:
1-8 - 800mg Test C
9-12 - 400mg Test C
4-12 - 50mg Tren Ace ED - I swore I would never run this again.

2-8 - 400mg Masteron Prop
9-12 - 700mg Masteron Prop
1-12 - 4ius GH ED 2ius AM 2ius mid afternoon
6-12 - 100mg Proviron ED
4-12 - 50mg Winstrol ED
5-12 - 100mg Anavar ED
1-12 - 250mg DNP ED 10 days on 11 days off
1-6 - 50mcgs T3
6-12 - 75mcgs T3
1-12 - 12.5mg Aromasin ED
3-15 - .25mg Pramipexole ED

DIET:

Training days:

1. 2 Omega 3 eggs, 1/2 cup Egg Whites, 3 veggies, 1 fruit.
2. 5oz. Lean Meat, 4 C baby spinach, 2 veggies, 1/2 oz. pumpkin seeds, 1/2oz. walnuts, 1tbs. olive oil
3. 5oz. lean meat, 3 veggies, 1/2 avocado, 1 fruit.
4. 5oz. lean meat, 1 1/2 Tbsp. Salmon Oil, 2 tbs. ground flax seeds, 3 tbs. ANPB, 3 veggies.

Non Training Days:

1. 4 omega 3 eggs, 3 veggies, 1oz. cheese
2. 5oz lean meat, 4C baby spinach, 2 veggies, 1/2oz pumpkin seeds, 1 tbs. olive oil
3. 5oz. lean meat, 3 veggies, 1oz. almonds
4. 5oz. lean meat, 1 1/2 tbsp. salmon oil, 1 tbs. ANPB, 3 veggies.

Refeed days:

5ius insulin with 40g dextrose, 50g whey. 1 hour later 3/4 cup oats with 3/4 cup blueberries, 1 hour later 2 non fat pop tarts. 1.5 hours later 3/4 cup oats with 1 scoop whey mixed in a blender.

Once the insulin cleared it was nothing but ice cream, waffles, pizza, donuts, etc.

This happened every 14 days.

Supplements:

1. ECA - 4 times a day.
2. 1 Serving of Greens+
3. 10g BCAA's, 5g Creatine mixed in 1 liter of H20 4 times a day.
4. 1 serving metamucil
5. Multi vitamin
6. 2400mg Red Yeat Rice
7. 6g Vitamin C / 3g when not using DNP
8. 600mg R-ALA
9. Tyler's Liver detox 3 times a day

CARDIO:

Done 3 times a week on a treadmill on non-weight training days.

5 min warm up
6 Min 30:90s (HIIT - 30 Sec. sprint 90 sec rest)
10 min steady state
5 min 20:40
10 min steady state
2 min all out sprint
18 min steady state

Training:

It's too involved to list everything and it changed every week. Lots of super sets, giant sets and metabolic work. I did a split that was upper horizontal, upper vertical, lower vertical X 2.

**basskiller** · 10-19-2010, 11:42 PM

I thought i was the only one left that uses Tylers detoxification factors.

nasty tasting when they come back (burping and such)

**underscore** · 10-20-2010, 12:48 AM

What PCT do you run with a monster stack like that

**rippedgolfer** · 10-20-2010, 06:07 AM

That's an insane stack. Good luck on it bro. Do you experience any sides? You mentioned you would never use Tren again. May I ask why? I've read good things about it but lots of sides. I was tempted to give it a try but my theory is "slow and steady". I'd rather go low dose and gain smaller with less risk. But that's just me.

**theCaptn'** · 10-20-2010, 06:21 AM

**pyes** · 10-20-2010, 06:28 AM

wow.

**XYZ** · 10-20-2010, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by underscore

What PCT do you run with a monster stack like that

None. TRT

**XYZ** · 10-20-2010, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

That's an insane stack. Good luck on it bro. Do you experience any sides? You mentioned you would never use Tren again. May I ask why? I've read good things about it but lots of sides. I was tempted to give it a try but my theory is "slow and steady". I'd rather go low dose and gain smaller with less risk. But that's just me.

No sides, you just learn through trial and error and previous experiences. IF anything were coming on I would know exactly what to do, when and why.

Tren is terrible for your heart. There are no studies for it, and probably never will be seeing that it's not made for human use. There are numerous threads on another board which goes into detail of why. The people discussing it are EXTREMELY intelligent.

**Life** · 10-20-2010, 07:30 AM

**MDR** · 10-20-2010, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by pyes

wow.

My thoughts exactly.

**Supermans Daddy** · 10-20-2010, 10:48 AM

Very interest'n. Not that insane or heavy even ( except the slin and the DNP I'm scared of those lololol) . I'd expect nothin less from you.

Peace and Love

**Simply_Michael** · 10-20-2010, 11:00 AM

What dose for your eca stack - I wish I had your wallet

**XYZ** · 10-20-2010, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Supa_Spence

What dose for your eca stack - I wish I had your wallet

I train first thing in the AM.

1. 50mg E / 200mg C / 81mg A
2. 25mg E / 200mg C / 81mg A
3. 25mg E / 200mg C / 81mg A
4. 25mg E / 200mg C / 81mg A

Every 3 Hours.

**Simply_Michael** · 10-20-2010, 11:11 AM

Thanks for response I am doing 50 mg eph /200 c /81 a:, 3 times a day for 6 weeks. .. good luck

Originally Posted by CT

I train first thing in the AM.

1. 50mg E / 200mg C / 81mg A
2. 25mg E / 200mg C / 81mg A
3. 25mg E / 200mg C / 81mg A
4. 25mg E / 200mg C / 81mg A

Every 3 Hours.

**fredlabrute** · 10-20-2010, 01:15 PM

Experiencing no sides with tren ace at 120mg eod,5 times per week!!!I heard bad things about DNP,what was your experience with the compound,you must be rippped as hell!!!

**chronicelite** · 10-20-2010, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by CT

I train first thing in the AM.

1. 50mg E / 200mg C / 81mg A
2. 25mg E / 200mg C / 81mg A
3. 25mg E / 200mg C / 81mg A
4. 25mg E / 200mg C / 81mg A

Every 3 Hours.

Sounds like a heart attack waiting to happen if I took that.
But again, everybody is different.

**XYZ** · 10-20-2010, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by fredlabrute

Experiencing no sides with tren ace at 120mg eod,5 times per week!!!I heard bad things about DNP,what was your experience with the compound,you must be rippped as hell!!!

Low dose DNP is not as bad as everyone thinks it is. If you do your homework and know what you're doing you'll be fine. It also helps to run it at a time of year when it's not hot outside. Going higher than 250mg ED is asking for a living hell.

I ended up at about 5% at the end of that cycle.

**XYZ** · 10-20-2010, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by chronicelite

Sounds like a heart attack waiting to happen if I took that.
But again, everybody is different.

I didn't start with that.

You have to work your way up to it. Your body can adjust and become tolerable to stimulants very easily. Going CKD without any type of stim is asking to be tired all day every day.

**theCaptn'** · 10-20-2010, 03:04 PM

no clen?

**XYZ** · 10-20-2010, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Marquis du Gears

no clen?

No. I tried it once and hated it. Never again.

**TwisT** · 10-20-2010, 03:14 PM

Wow, that's gonna be a crazy cycle my friend.

Good luck!

-TG

**Buzzard** · 10-20-2010, 08:23 PM

CT...

Me too... On the clen. I like T3 all alone.

I guess the prami is stronger than caber and why you chose it?

Is this a past cycle or one you are about to start?

**chronicelite** · 10-20-2010, 09:14 PM

Very solid diet. This is what I like to see!

CT is a true inspiration to hard work and proper diet

**XYZ** · 10-21-2010, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by TimGreenly

Wow, that's gonna be a crazy cycle my friend.

Good luck!

-TG

It WAS a crazy cycle. That was the last "big" one ever for me. I just had a bunch of left overs that I wanted to use up and be done with. From now on it's no more than 1-1.5g a week max.

**XYZ** · 10-21-2010, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by Buzzard

CT...

Me too... On the clen. I like T3 all alone.

I guess the prami is stronger than caber and why you chose it?

Is this a past cycle or one you are about to start?

I had prami lying around so I used it up, I would have prefered to use caber, the sides from prami really get to me the first 3-4 weeks I use it, it really messes up my sleep if I take it at night and if I take it in the day I'm SO tired for 3 hours after taking it.

It was a cycle that I finished.

**XYZ** · 10-21-2010, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by chronicelite

Very solid diet. This is what I like to see!

CT is a true inspiration to hard work and proper diet

You could have easily doubled the gear and I would have still been a fat ass. DIET IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF EVERYTHING.

Thanks Bro.

**Life** · 10-21-2010, 07:39 AM

Does T3 give the same prostrate problems that clen/ephedra does?

**XYZ** · 10-21-2010, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Life

Does T3 give the same prostrate problems that clen/ephedra does?

What problems are those and where did you get this information?

**Life** · 10-21-2010, 07:57 AM

Ephedra causes prostrate pain with me and some other people if I take it for a while. The prostate has a lot of beta receptors which are stimulated by the beta agonists, causing pain in some, including me. Or at least that is the information I've found via some research.

**Simply_Michael** · 10-21-2010, 08:12 AM

how do u take care of it?

Originally Posted by Life

Ephedra causes prostrate pain with me and some other people if I take it for a while. The prostate has a lot of beta receptors which are stimulated by the beta agonists, causing pain in some, including me. Or at least that is the information I've found via some research.

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