Thread: Advice appreciated...

I forgot to mention, I will be working out Mon-Thurs, rest on Friday, gym on Saturday and rest on Sunday. My diet is typically pretty clean and will be about 200-250 grams of protein at about 3500-4000 calories per day. I sleep eight hours a day. I have a pretty good workout routine that has yielded me excellent results in the past. I know if I get on another cycle that diet, exercising and rest won't be an issue. Since I'm naturally lean, I can pretty much eat whatever and not gain much fat (not trying to brag, sorry). I basically just try to keep my stomach full throughout the day and supplement with two muscle milk shakes a day using whole milk.

A simple test + dbol cycle would do you some good!

Weeks 1-10 - Test E 500mg/week
Weeks 1-4 - Dbol 30mg/day

PCT: Clomid

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I actually found four amps of the test I used previously. It's Durateston by Organon 250 mg. Has an expiration date of 2006. Probably not a good idea to use huh? I thought that was Test Ethan, can someone confirm that is what I previously used? I appreciate the advice.

Since it's been so long ago that you did a cycle and even then it was limited I would say it would be like doing it for a first time all over again.
So...My advice would be to keep it simple, cover all basis and go for say 10 weeks.
Test enathate or cypionate at 500mgs per week. Split doses mon-thurs 250mgs ea.
Arimadex .5 mg EOD from day one.
HCG 250 iu's 2x wkly day before each pin.
Clomid for PCT wk 1, 100mgs, wk2 75mg and the reamining two weeks 50mgs daily should suit you well.
Have nolvadex on hand just in case of tender nipples or swelling.
IF this happens take 20mgs daily until symptoms go away and discontinue.
This should give you substancial gains, is real basic and wont cost you a fortune to run.
Keep your calories high, protein high and work out like theres no tomarrow.

If I had four amps of old test that was out of date, I'd do it. If it's been stored properly the worst thing that could happen is it may have lost some of it's potency.
But I have had old stuff before and it worked just fine. It's not like it's a vial with a rubber stopper thats been sitting in the garage. Their amps and should be ok.
If you are trying who to get your items from our sponsors all have good stuff. I will say though genxxl has been very good to me.
If cost isnt a factor WP has good stuff also and can get it to you pretty quick. Those choices are all up to you though.

Thanks Roaddkingg. What do you think about say a Deca/Winstrol stack? I remember my first injection with the Test, I couldn't walk right for a week. I massaged and used heat afterwards and injected slowly. Do you suggest anything other than say a Test cycle? I know the rule of thumb is Test is the base of every cycle but I've been reading up on Deca a lot and it seems like people have experienced good gains with little side effects and good joint lubrication, which interest me. What do you think about the hybrid gear on genxxl? Any recommendations on those?

Deca and winstrol stack not a good idea. Deca can in some give you deca dick. and is not a good idea to run winstrol yet for you.
Winstrol is a finishing compound and people would get their best results from it if they have real low bf%.
Besides that if you were to do deca you had best study up on dostinex/ cabergoline or prami AND know how to dose them correctly which at this point I feel you do not. Get some good straight test and listen to the suggestions that have been given.
If you would care to check out my log it's in the anabolic zone and is called opinions please, starting in the morning.
It explains all about a blend called xtr500 and I'm also doing TPP(testosterone phenylpropionate). I started with some d-bol(jelfa metanabol) but it as usual caused me some problems. I went through pain issues and finally got that sorted out and now am cruising along pretty well but with a small flare up in my right tit. You may find it interesting as the blend is the main compound in this cycle.
Many people dont care much for blends because your plasma levels do fluctuate as I have had to do some experimentation to control sides. I dont think it's for you, good test would work just fine.

Yeah I've come to the conclusion to just run Test E at 500 mg per week for 10 weeks along with the typical ancillaries. I might throw in some dbol to jump start the cycle. Not sure yet. But my bf is around 10%, if not less, and I stay lean pretty much 24/7 no matter what I eat. Thanks bro! Definitely appreciate the advice!

How important is HCG on a 500 mg test only cycle for 10 weeks? I'm thinking about foregoing it but if I need it then so be it. I did the same cycle eight years ago and did not experience any shrinkage and no noticeable side effects.

Ok...I did it. Purchased from one of our sponsors, GenX. Purchased 25 amps of Norma 250 mg Test E, Clomid, Nolva, Arimplex and 23 g needles. I decided to forego the HCG to save money and b/c I hate pinning.

Cycle will be 12 weeks.
Pinning 500 mg every Monday, only once a week.
0.5 mg of Arimplex eod, Clomid for PCT and Nolva as needed.
Total price was around $330.
Does that sound reasonable inclusive of pins and ancillaries?
Anyone suggest any modifications before I have items shipped?
Is the 23 g pin adequate for the Test E or should I go with a different gauge?
How much should I gain on this cycle assumption good diet and workouts? Plan to eat minimum 250 grams of protein a day and over 3,500 calories, probably in the 4-5k range.
Any last words or suggestions? Thanks, I will keep you all updated on my progress

I feel HCG is important because it keeps your testes from shrinkage and so therefore you will have a easier recovery when it comes time for PCT. But many old school guys still do their HCG in higher doses at the end and I guess it works just fine for them. It's not the way I do it but a lot of this is on a individual basis. As far as the pinning of HCG it's simple.
Use insulin syringes 28guage is most common and just pinch up some fat about one inch from the navel and just insert it.
Very easy and no pain at all.
Perhaps you already placed your order since your post was yesterday but if it were me I'd include HCG into my regimine.

Thanks Road. I already made order but can probably add to it. But since I've done this cycle before and experienced no shrinkage or sides I'm hoping things will be smooth this time around. I dread pinning so anything I can do to reduce it is favorable for me.

it's up to you my friend what you do or whether you listen to advice or not.
But as I said the HCG is so easy with a small insulin syringe you hardly even feel the prick.
I dont like pinning myself either but it's part of it.

Road, how much of a difference do you think it'll make? Looking back, I really didn't see tons of strength gains on this cycle. I did gain about 12-15 lbs of lean mass but I'm certain my diet will be much better this time around and I won't be drinking alcohol at all. But I didn't experience any sides or shrinkage so I decided to go without HCG this time. I will have Clomid for PCT and Arimiplex daily at 0.5 mg. BTW, should I start taking the Arimiplex in Week 3 until PCT starts or begin it in Week 1 along with first pin? I assume Week 3 b/c Test E won't start kicking in till around that time anyways. And since it's a 12 week cycle, it'll be in my system thru Week 15 so should I continue Arimiplex through Week 15 then start Clomid at Week 16?