Thread: simple question

Originally Posted by cbohning

Simple question? that I've been going back and forth w/ so ill let you guys decide?

My bulk cycle this Jan. is going to consist of Test C, NPP and Dbol.
-I have 4x10ml Test C, my question is should I run it at 600mg wk for 12wk or 750mg for 10wk? I know this lame question but i'm sik of thinkin bout it and I'm wondering what some of the vets around here would say?
-I have no $ so dont say buy more test lol

Thx

Id go for the longer cycle. But Im not a vet.

Originally Posted by cavtrooper96

Id go for the longer cycle. But Im not a vet.

yeah bro thats the question??? 2more wks or cut it short at 10wk w/ higher dose?? It prob. really doesnt matter too much, its going to depend on my diet and training wich is DAILED!!!
-THX for your reply!

You did not give any history about you or your experience. Probably wont get much from guys without it.

Hey man,what's ur age,how long u been training,what's ur diet like,is this ur first cycle,how about pct.All of that info will help others here to critique u better,good luck,and besafe..

age 33 height 5'10 weight 180lb 9-10%

cycle experience:
1st I ran 12 all test E cycle 500mg EW
- 1-12 test E EW
- 500iu EW HCG sub Q
- .25mg ED arim
- 14-17 Nolvadex PCT 40/40/20/20

2nd I ran 12wk
- 1-12 test C 500mg EW
- 1-10 bold 400mg EW
- arim .25mg ED
- 500iu EW HCG sub Q
- 14-16 clomid 100/50/50


3 day Training Split (Mon,Wed,Fri)

Day 1 – Upper Body (Vertical Push & Pull, Elbow Flexion & Extension)

Day 2 – Lower Body (Quad & Hip Dominant, Trunk/Hip Flexion & Extension)

Day 3 – Upper Body (Horizontal Push & Pull, Elbow Flexion & Extension)

compound movements:
Sets:5 Reps:4-6; 2-3 minutes in between sets
isolation movements
Sets:3 Reps:8; 1-2 minutes in between sets

Diet: my maintenance caloric intake is around 2700 right now Im keeping it a little above @ 3000-3200 clean @ around 40/40/20 pro/carb/fat

Planned cycle this Jan.

1-10 - 750mg Test C EW
1-9 - 100mg NPP EOD
7-10 - 30mg dbol ED
1-12 - 12.5mg Aromasin ED or EOD
13-16 - 12.5mg Aromasin E2-3D
1-12 - 500-1000ius HCG EW
1-12 - .25mg pramipexole ED
1-10 - 50mcgs T3 ED
PCT:
13-16 - 100/50/50/50mg Clomid ED

Originally Posted by cbohning

age 33 height 5'10 weight 180lb 9-10%

cycle experience:
1st I ran 12 all test E cycle 500mg EW
- 1-12 test E EW
- 500iu EW HCG sub Q
- .25mg ED arim
- 14-17 Nolvadex PCT 40/40/20/20

2nd I ran 12wk
- 1-12 test C 500mg EW
- 1-10 bold 400mg EW
- arim .25mg ED
- 500iu EW HCG sub Q
- 14-16 clomid 100/50/50


3 day Training Split (Mon,Wed,Fri)

Day 1 – Upper Body (Vertical Push & Pull, Elbow Flexion & Extension)

Day 2 – Lower Body (Quad & Hip Dominant, Trunk/Hip Flexion & Extension)

Day 3 – Upper Body (Horizontal Push & Pull, Elbow Flexion & Extension)

compound movements:
Sets:5 Reps:4-6; 2-3 minutes in between sets
isolation movements
Sets:3 Reps:8; 1-2 minutes in between sets

Diet: my maintenance caloric intake is around 2700 right now Im keeping it a little above @ 3000-3200 clean @ around 40/40/20 pro/carb/fat

Planned cycle this Jan.

1-10 - 750mg Test C EW
1-9 - 100mg NPP EOD
7-10 - 30mg dbol ED
1-12 - 12.5mg Aromasin ED or EOD
13-16 - 12.5mg Aromasin E2-3D
1-12 - 500-1000ius HCG EW
1-12 - .25mg pramipexole ED
1-10 - 50mcgs T3 ED
PCT:
13-16 - 100/50/50/50mg Clomid ED

it looks gtg for except a few little things.
dont take prami unless u need it for gyno thats bad , as it dries the fuck out of your joints. use aromasin at 12.5 eod not ed. use hcg at the 250ius 2xs wk say subq or im on mon and thurs i use it im as subq dont work good for me. dont use t3 that long, use 50mcg only at very longest 1 month thats it but i only use it for 3 wks. but 1 month tops and come off slowly. other then those minor changes go for it, it looks gtg. use 600mg for 12 wks.

ps: eat alot of protein while taking t3 as it will take away ur gains in size , thats in human talk. i could give u a science fair but ill tell u a way u understand. good luck bro. and if u want up the dbol to 50mg ed if u cant 30mg ed is fine. but 12 wks is better then 10 wks.

Originally Posted by unclem

it looks gtg for except a few little things.
dont take prami unless u need it for gyno thats bad , as it dries the fuck out of your joints. use aromasin at 12.5 eod not ed. use hcg at the 250ius 2xs wk say subq or im on mon and thurs i use it im as subq dont work good for me. dont use t3 that long, use 50mcg only at very longest 1 month thats it but i only use it for 3 wks. but 1 month tops and come off slowly. other then those minor changes go for it, it looks gtg. use 600mg for 12 wks.

ps: eat alot of protein while taking t3 as it will take away ur gains in size , thats in human talk. i could give u a science fair but ill tell u a way u understand. good luck bro. and if u want up the dbol to 50mg ed if u cant 30mg ed is fine. but 12 wks is better then 10 wks.

Thank you unclem much appreciated!!
I am using prami cause I do have history of gyno. I am def. running 600mg @ 12wk. I was thinking about upping dbol dose but this is first time I will be running it so we'll see?? The T3 I am still on the fences with, I dont want to loose gains! and Im plannning on cutting in May or June. I just wanted to keep fat gains to a minimum. I def been reading that you can run T3 at a consistent dose(50mg ED) for a extended period of time and come off w/ out tapering down and have little or no thyroid damage? Ill try to find article?

Thank you for your help

Originally Posted by unclem

it looks gtg for except a few little things.
dont take prami unless u need it for gyno thats bad , as it dries the fuck out of your joints. use aromasin at 12.5 eod not ed. use hcg at the 250ius 2xs wk say subq or im on mon and thurs i use it im as subq dont work good for me. dont use t3 that long, use 50mcg only at very longest 1 month thats it but i only use it for 3 wks. but 1 month tops and come off slowly. other then those minor changes go for it, it looks gtg. use 600mg for 12 wks.

ps: eat alot of protein while taking t3 as it will take away ur gains in size , thats in human talk. i could give u a science fair but ill tell u a way u understand. good luck bro. and if u want up the dbol to 50mg ed if u cant 30mg ed is fine. but 12 wks is better then 10 wks.

ANYONE using a 19nor should protect themselves with parmipexole or a different anti-progestin, it does not dry your joints out as an A/I does, it's totally different.

You can use T3 for years and come off and be totally fine. There are numerous studies showing this. At 50mcgs of T3 it is highly unlikely that it's going to "take away ur gains in size".

Run it for 10 weeks. After 8 weeks your myostatin levels will diminish and your gains will stop. It makes no sense to go any longer, unless you add an oral.

Originally Posted by CT

Run it for 10 weeks. After 8 weeks your myostatin levels will diminish and your gains will stop. It makes no sense to go any longer, unless you add an oral.

Im confused w/ this last quote? You are talking about running T3 for 10wk?.. And then my myostatin levels will diminish? I dont want that!!, I'm running a cutting cycle 6-8wk after this cycle so using T3 is not that big of a deal, unless you think it will be benifical? My body fat is 10% and my diet will be clean so at the very least if i start to pick up some unwanted fat I will run it last 4wks.. I am running oral(dbol) first 4wks or last 4wks? havent decided?..

Thanks for your reply CT

Originally Posted by cbohning

Im confused w/ this last quote? You are talking about running T3 for 10wk?.. And then my myostatin levels will diminish? I dont want that!!, I'm running a cutting cycle 6-8wk after this cycle so using T3 is not that big of a deal, unless you think it will be benifical? My body fat is 10% and my diet will be clean so at the very least if i start to pick up some unwanted fat I will run it last 4wks.. I am running oral(dbol) first 4wks or last 4wks? havent decided?..

Thanks for your reply CT

I'm replying to your first post.

Why are you running a bulk then in 6-8 weeks straight into a cut? How do you think your body is going to respond to the rapid weight gain and loss? You're going to end up at square one if you're lucky.

Originally Posted by CT

Run it for 10 weeks. After 8 weeks your myostatin levels will diminish and your gains will stop. It makes no sense to go any longer, unless you add an oral.

Originally Posted by CT

I'm replying to your first post.

alright your talking about running test for 10wks max cause after 8wk your myostatin levels will drop. Unless I add oral!..got it(I shouldnt read these late at night) So if I choose to run the test @ 600mg for 12wk then I should add oral(dbol) at last 4wks..
- i'll have to read up on myostatin levels, if you have any articles you can send my way please do!,. With this said why do most people choose to run longer cycles?

Originally Posted by CT

Why are you running a bulk then in 6-8 weeks straight into a cut? How do you think your body is going to respond to the rapid weight gain and loss? You're going to end up at square one if you're lucky.

Good question, maybe I should revisit that thought, thank you

Most people are running long cycles with other AAS's in combination with test.