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    I will be starting a cycle with Tren Ace in a stack. It's not my first cycle but its my first time using Tren.

    What is a good dose to start with? 50mg ED? I see the halflife is 48-72 hours with the ace ester. However I see most guys going ED instead of EOD. I don't really want to pin ED but I heard the sides arent as bad if you go ED instead of EOD.

    What is your suggestion?

    extra credit: I'm only running aromasin 10mg ED for my estro control. Will this suffice? I had no gyno or other related issues last cycle with lots of dbol and test.

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    ive used tren ace eod and your right sides are bad. PLEASE if you see acne starting get something right away to clear it up! Because when you come off with tren it will blow up like a nuclear bomb went off. Thats what happened with me.

    I think you should be ok, if you feel any symptoms up your dose to 25mgs instantly dont even try lower. Tren is potent shit man but it works wonders you will see bro!

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    I was nervous the first time I used tren due to hearing others about the side effects. But my first time running it, I use World Pharm (pharm grade) bc i knew I would be safer than using a UGL. I had no sides and still continue to be a big fan of their products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conrad415 View Post
    I was nervous the first time I used tren due to hearing others about the side effects. But my first time running it, I use World Pharm (pharm grade) bc i knew I would be safer than using a UGL. I had no sides and still continue to be a big fan of their products.
    I'd humbly like to say that there is no such thing as PH or HG Tren Acetate.Tren as wonderful a compound as it is designed for cattle, which explains a lot bout the sides.
    The closest version that would be to HG or PH is Crystal Tren which has a shorter ester than Tren Acetate, or Parabolan which has a longer ester.

    Just share'n some stuff, but what the hell would I know .lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermans Daddy View Post
    I'd humbly like to say that there is no such thing as PH or HG Tren Acetate.Tren as wonderful a compound as it is designed for cattle, which explains a lot bout the sides.
    The closest version that would be to HG or PH is Crystal Tren which has a shorter ester than Tren Acetate, or Parabolan which has a longer ester.

    Just share'n some stuff, but what the hell would I know .lol

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    What is your opinion on ED vs EOD on tren ace?

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    Do it ED not the first time i read less sides......Tren is tren man who cares what grade as long as you get results right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
    What is your opinion on ED vs EOD on tren ace?
    I don't give opinions publicly so if you'd like I'll PM you, but I will say this

    Injection protocol is determined by the compounds ester and that ester's half-life and has nothin to do with mine or anyone else's opinion. The compound simply demands what it calls for. I'd strongly suggest that you investigate active-life and half-life on compounds. They almost tell you when you need to inject.If you wanna control sides and keep gains and feel irie

    KEEP PLASMA LEVELS EVEN !!!!!!!! But again what in the hell would I know...lolol

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    1 thing i can tell you, is that your sleeping is going to be straight up fuckkedd up.. Im o tren right now, and i can go like 5 hours not knowing if im sleeping or am half awake...the dreams are crazy!! which is awesome and occasional night sweats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermans Daddy View Post
    I'd humbly like to say that there is no such thing as PH or HG Tren Acetate.Tren as wonderful a compound as it is designed for cattle, which explains a lot bout the sides.
    The closest version that would be to HG or PH is Crystal Tren which has a shorter ester than Tren Acetate, or Parabolan which has a longer ester.

    Just share'n some stuff, but what the hell would I know .lol

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    Your correct, maybe I should have worded the post a bit better. Thanks for catching that.

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    50mg EoD will do you just fine. ED of optimal, but EoD works great too.

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    Cool. Do you use same guage as test pins? Can you mix test and tren in the same pin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
    Cool. Do you use same guage as test pins? Can you mix test and tren in the same pin?
    Yes, Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
    I will be starting a cycle with Tren Ace in a stack. It's not my first cycle but its my first time using Tren.

    What is a good dose to start with? 50mg ED? I see the halflife is 48-72 hours with the ace ester. However I see most guys going ED instead of EOD. I don't really want to pin ED but I heard the sides arent as bad if you go ED instead of EOD.

    What is your suggestion?

    extra credit: I'm only running aromasin 10mg ED for my estro control. Will this suffice? I had no gyno or other related issues last cycle with lots of dbol and test.

    ED injections, 50-60mg ED. Where is the anti-progestin? Aromasin does NOTHING for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CT View Post
    ED injections, 50-60mg ED. Where is the anti-progestin? Aromasin does NOTHING for this.
    Can you elaborate here? I should use Prami or something similar along with my aromasin? Does tren cause progestin to go up?

    Thanks CT

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
    Can you elaborate here? I should use Prami or something similar along with my aromasin? Does tren cause progestin to go up?

    Thanks CT
    Prami and caber are the common chioces. I like Prami, personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDR View Post
    Prami and caber are the common chioces. I like Prami, personally.
    Would I take aromasin and prami during the entire cycle? Wouldnt that kill all my estrogen? Or should I take aromasin and keep prami on hand? What dosages?
    Last edited by underscore; 10-19-2010 at 11:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
    Would I take aromasin and prami during the entire cycle? Wouldnt that kill all my estrogen? Or should I take aromasin and keep prami on hand? What dosages?
    Honestly, you're not ready for tren. You're not even familiar with the progestin sides and your asking for doses of ancillaries when you have yet to determine your cycle dose??? Isn't that backwards?

    How would you run the tren/test ratio? When would you stop the tren and then the test and then start the PCT?

    I'm not trying to be a prick but the things you're typing and saying are just VERY concerning to say the least. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable with you doing anything with tren except letting it sit somewhere for future use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CT View Post
    Honestly, you're not ready for tren. You're not even familiar with the progestin sides and your asking for doses of ancillaries when you have yet to determine your cycle dose??? Isn't that backwards?

    How would you run the tren/test ratio? When would you stop the tren and then the test and then start the PCT?

    I'm not trying to be a prick but the things you're typing and saying are just VERY concerning to say the least. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable with you doing anything with tren except letting it sit somewhere for future use.
    Now the nice translation lol

    Perhaps you would consider doing a bit more research on your own as well as here on this and some other boards before actucally use'n the Tren. Understand what it can do to you ,the signs and how to combat it and be sure to have those things on hand and understood first. Show yourself some love remember just because you have it now does not mean you have to use it yet. Save it as it won't go bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
    I will be starting a cycle with Tren Ace in a stack. It's not my first cycle but its my first time using Tren.

    What is a good dose to start with? 50mg ED? I see the halflife is 48-72 hours with the ace ester. However I see most guys going ED instead of EOD. I don't really want to pin ED but I heard the sides arent as bad if you go ED instead of EOD.

    What is your suggestion?

    extra credit: I'm only running aromasin 10mg ED for my estro control. Will this suffice? I had no gyno or other related issues last cycle with lots of dbol and test.
    50mg eod if you're pinning with a long esther test would give you 350mg tren ace which is a good dose to begin with,even if i did 500mg as a first-timer...Would strongly advice to take a short esther with this one as it is not for newbie and like this you'll be able to handle better the sides(if sides there is).
    If you stay at that dose chances are very low you'll experienced some prolactin induced sides but i wouldn't take any chance and would buy a prolactin controlling agant such as caber or prami!!!
    If you take it responsibly,you'll love tren...
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    What dosage would you run prami if I'm on aromasin on cycle for 50mg ED test ace?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermans Daddy View Post
    Now the nice translation lol

    Perhaps you would consider doing a bit more research on your own as well as here on this and some other boards before actucally use'n the Tren. Understand what it can do to you ,the signs and how to combat it and be sure to have those things on hand and understood first. Show yourself some love remember just because you have it now does not mean you have to use it yet. Save it as it won't go bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CT View Post
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    Thank you. Here is an example cycle, please correct and adjust as needed:

    Test-c 700mg /w 1-12 weeks
    Tren ace 350mg /w 2-9 weeks
    Aromasin 12.5mg ED
    Prami .25 ED
    HCG 500iu 2x /w

    PCT:
    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    Aromasin 5mg ED

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    Guys, I know what all the other stuff is but what is Prami short, or slang for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guybb3 View Post
    Guys, I know what all the other stuff is but what is Prami short, or slang for?
    pramipoxole

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
    Thank you. Here is an example cycle, please correct and adjust as needed:

    Test-c 700mg /w 1-12 weeks
    Tren ace 350mg /w 2-9 weeks
    Aromasin 12.5mg ED
    Prami .25 ED
    HCG 500iu 2x /w

    PCT:
    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    Aromasin 5mg ED


    If you're gonna use trenA, I'd go with testP instead of testC since the half-life is about the same. For ex: testP/trenA @ 75/50 ED.
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    make sure you run your test longer then the tren I would say 2 week's to avoid tren dick same with decca or any 19-nor's

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