Thread: Prop pain Q

I haven't tried that but I wouldn't think it would reduce the pain that much. Lot of times the needle movement itself at least contributes some to the pain which would be there no matter the dose.

What is the dosage of your Prop and how much are you taking???? I have 100mg Prop and was told by some trusted advisers on here that I should cut it down to 75mg and shoot ED because the pain would be really bad.

No that does not work. dropping the dose will do nothing...you have to dilute the mixture with more oil.

Originally Posted by pyes

No that does not work. dropping the dose will do nothing...you have to dilute the mixture with more oil.

+1.

If you have (hypothetically speaking) 50ml @100mg per ml what you need to do is add an additional 50ml's of grapeseed oil that you have ALREADY run through a whatman. Add it to the AAS. You will now have 100ml @ 50mg per ml. The pain will be non-existent.

You can also add the oil straight to the gear but then you have to bake it and that can lead to a vial blowing up inside of your oven if you don't know WTF you're doing.

No difference for me. I am pinning my prop ED and cutting it with Tren Ace.
Still burns for about an hour after the injection. But I actually look forward to that feeling now

I actually crave the painful injection site now.... must be the Tren Ace warping my mind LOL

Originally Posted by chronicelite

No difference for me. I am pinning my prop ED and cutting it with Tren Ace.
Still burns for about an hour after the injection. But I actually look forward to that feeling now

I actually crave the painful injection site now.... must be the Tren Ace warping my mind LOL

You are cutting it with tren or it is underdosed...that is why it does not hurt....your stinging feeling for 1 hour afterwards is not prop pain....prop pain lasts for about 3 or 4 days....it feels like a major bruise.

Originally Posted by pyes

You are cutting it with tren or it is underdosed...that is why it does not hurt....your stinging feeling for 1 hour afterwards is not prop pain....prop pain lasts for about 3 or 4 days....it feels like a major bruise.

Yeah I am cutting it with Tren Ace and stated in my post above.

It was way more painful in the beginning of the cycle and I still do get bruises in the quads and delts, but not so much the glutes.

Originally Posted by pyes

No that does not work. dropping the dose will do nothing...you have to dilute the mixture with more oil.

Sorry for not being clear... Diluting it to 75mg/ml is what I meant by cut it down.

Both the prop and tren are dosed at 100mg/ml. Both products are Z-line. (I hope it's okay for me to say that)....I haven't been hanging out much at these forums in recent years. I was pinning 100mg's of each EOD. I'm gonna go ahead and switch to 50mg's ED. More stable blood levels etc. (you know the drill). I'll let you guys know if it helps me with the pain at all. It might be hard to tell though as (correct me if I'm wrong) but as the cycle progresses the pain should subside a bit anyways right?

Originally Posted by njc

Both the prop and tren are dosed at 100mg/ml. Both products are Z-line. (I hope it's okay for me to say that)....I haven't been hanging out much at these forums in recent years. I was pinning 100mg's of each EOD. I'm gonna go ahead and switch to 50mg's ED. More stable blood levels etc. (you know the drill). I'll let you guys know if it helps me with the pain at all. It might be hard to tell though as (correct me if I'm wrong) but as the cycle progresses the pain should subside a bit anyways right?

In my experience it has subsided a bit yes....

Originally Posted by njc

Both the prop and tren are dosed at 100mg/ml. Both products are Z-line. (I hope it's okay for me to say that)....I haven't been hanging out much at these forums in recent years. I was pinning 100mg's of each EOD. I'm gonna go ahead and switch to 50mg's ED. More stable blood levels etc. (you know the drill). I'll let you guys know if it helps me with the pain at all. It might be hard to tell though as (correct me if I'm wrong) but as the cycle progresses the pain should subside a bit anyways right?

Lowering the dose will do nothing for the pain, NOTHING.

The problem is the concentration of the prop, that's why it needs to be diluted.

I've been getting conflicting answers on this on different boards.

I mean, if you were to inject a measley 5mg's.....the pain would be the same as injecting 200mg's??

Originally Posted by njc

I mean, if you were to inject a measley 5mg's.....the pain would be the same as injecting 200mg's??

No but the pain would still be there and 5mg's isn't going to do anything. You can read whatever you want wherever you want, I'm telling you from experience that it's the concentration and unless you dilute it NOTHING is going to change.

It's VERY simple to do, try it with 5ml's and see what happens.

Okay.....then to some degree the pain must be dose dependant.

I will give it a shot tonight. I'll inject a miniscule amount into a virgin muscle and then let you guys know what happens.

Originally Posted by CT

No but the pain would still be there and 5mg's isn't going to do anything. You can read whatever you want wherever you want, I'm telling you from experience that it's the concentration and unless you dilute it NOTHING is going to change.

It's VERY simple to do, try it with 5ml's and see what happens.

I 100% agree, I also know this from experience. My prop was 100mgs/ml and 1cc gave me crippling pain....I tryed 1/2cc in one leg and 1/2cc in the other leg and was still crippled. I followed CT's advice and diluted my gear...and pain was gone. The only reason Chronicelite has no pain is because he is drawing 2 diff compounds in the same syringe (which dilutes it).

Good to hear.

Originally Posted by njc

Okay.....then to some degree the pain must be dose dependant.

I will give it a shot tonight. I'll inject a miniscule amount into a virgin muscle and then let you guys know what happens.

So you will inject into your penis? or am i receiving the wrong message here...lol j/k bud

what is 5 mgs going to do for you? you produce more than that naturally. what ever the results are, this experiment means nothing. even if 25mgs is painless it means nothing because you will have to inject 4 different spots everyday which is major pinning, more scar tissue, more syringes, more chances of contamination, and will destroy your rubber stopper.

Yeah I didn't go the 5mg's route. I meant that I was going to do it as a test. I did inject 50mg's of the tren and 50mg's of the prop yesterday as I am going to ED injections. The pain is a little less but it still sucks. I'm gonna cut it like you guys reccomend. This has never been an issue for me, and I haven't read anything about cutting prop. Where do I get the grapeseed oil and all the other stuff to accomplish this and whatnot.

And PS-I am mixing the prop and tren in the same syringe...I don't even want to think about what the pain would be like then if I did not.

You need an empty sterile sealed vial (enough to hold double the amount of test prop you currently have) and a .22 whatman filter. You can get the grapeseed oil at your local grocery. Once you have this bump the thread back up and I'll tell you what to do next.

Try and get your hands on some test acetate. WAY better. No pain at all with basically the same half-life. No more prop for me.

You can buy the whatman filters, and the vials on ebay.....grapeseed oil at redners or walmart.

you will need a couple whatmans as they clog up quickly.

Great thanks fellas

On another note, I did my first chest pin yesterday. Of course the site is very sore if I rub it but I don't feel the pain going about my daily activities like I do with delts and glutes. Anybody else love pinning chest?

Never tried anything but glutes. I'm too worried about hitting a vein anywhere else.

Actually the only time I, personally, hit a vein was in the glute. Luckily I was aspirating and saw the blood, I pulled out and re-injected.