Super-DMZ rx~Dimethazine (old version)

**heavyiron** · 10-28-2010, 08:58 PM

Super-DMZ rx now contains Superdrol! Each cap contains 10mg Superdrol and 10mg Dimethazine!

Dimethazine by heavyiron

Super-DMZ rx, a brand name of Dimethazine is two steroid molecules bound together by a nitrogen atom. Upon ingestion, stomach acid separates the two steroid molecules that closely resemble methyldrostanolone (Superdrol) Therefore Super DMZ does not contain Superdrol but once broken down it is similar as far as I can tell.

Dimethazine was a prescribed steroid at one time therefore we have human trials in which this steroid was used. This medication has been around since 1962 when it was presented in the literature. Early on it was sold under the Roxilon brand name. Dimethazine is basically an oral Masterone (drostanolone propionate). I am reading published reports that Dimethazine possesses an androgenic rating of 96 and an anabolic rating of 210. Furthermore it seems to possess little to no estrogenic or progestational activity. The reason I feel this is not identical to Superdrol is because Superdrol has a different androgenic/anabolic rating of 20/400 respectively. However Dimethazine is a strong steroid.

Dimethazine is an oral c-17alpha alkylated steroid that is liver toxic to a degree. Note that in studies administering 20mg daily to female patients for 45-95 days, dimethazine was shown to induce modest to moderate bilirubinemia (excess bilirubin in the blood, indicative of hepatic stress) in close to 50% of patients. Approximately 25% of the patients noticed substantial increases in serum transaminases. These results suggest this steroid has significant hepatoxicity and should therefore be limited to shorter durations of use.

Super DMZ is a potent steroid that should illicit solid gains in lean body mass with little water or fat gain depending on diet. Most users can tolerate between 10-20 mg daily for 6-8 weeks however more adventuresome users may use up to 40mg daily for shorter durations like 3-4 weeks. What struck me the most about this steroid is how rapid and dry my gains were. It reminded me of a faster acting, dryer Dianabol. However Dimethazine is much stronger mg for mg than Dianabol. Users of Super-DMZ can expect to add 8-10lbs of lean body mass in just 3-4 weeks. I personally had no noticable side effects from Super-DMZ. Dimethazine is a strong, clean steroid that can be used to increase lean mass, strength and power with little to no water retention in a short period of time.

Because of the liver toxicity of Dimethazine I strongly recommend using liver supporting supplements such as ADVANCED CYCLE SUPPORT™ - Complete 'On Cycle' Prohormone Support, Liv 52 or milk thistle before and during administration of this steroid. Proper hydration is also recommended to lower stress on organs. Alcohol and other liver stressing medications like acetaminophen should be avoided during Dimethazine administration. Oral steroids often times negatively effect lipids therefore lipid supporting supplements should also be employed such as omega 3 fish oils, fiber and plant sterols. High blood pressure is another concern so that should be monitored regularly.

Super-DMZ rx is currently available for purchase without a prescription. Super-DMZ Rx™ Pro-Anabolic (Superdrol Dymethazine)

Chemical Name(s):
17beta-hydroxy 2alpha,17alpha-dimethyl 5alpha-androstan 3-one azine

SUPER-DMZ Rx™ PRO-HORMONE
Superdrol Dymethazine

~Pharmaceutical Grade Superdrol Dymethazine
~Increases Lean Muscle Mass
~Increases Strength & Power
~Helps with Cutting (getting lean)
~No Bloating or Water Retention

REAL TESTIMONIAL

**Curt James** · 10-28-2010, 09:45 PM

heavyiron, thank you for posting this. I'm re-posting my experience with SUPER-DMZ Rx here. This info appears in my training journal but thought including it in your thread might be appropriate.

IronMagLabs ' SUPER-DMZ Rx™ PRO-HORMONE Superdrol Dymethazine is a legal supplement, but PCT is recommended. This is the first product I've ever used that has required or directed a PCT.

Post-cycle therapy (PCT) is a drug/diet regimen used by anabolic steroid users to counteract and minimize post-steroid hypogonadism. The goal is to restore normal endogenous sex hormone production (typically testosterone) after steroid use is discontinued, thereby preserving the muscle and strength gains made during steroid use and minimizing side effects such as decreased libido and depression. Due to the harsh nature of some anabolic steroids on the liver (particularly oral, methylated steroids), PCT is also used to help cleanse the liver and ultimately prepare it for handling another cycle.

I'll have to check my journal numbers but I will say I noticed a jump in weights used, reps accomplished, size/measurement increases. One thing I love about this supplement is how it increased my dreaming. lol I'd take it at bedtime on my non workout days and would dream like crazy. I'm not someone who remembers their dreams and so this was an unexpected side effect.

I'm currently using LG Sciences' Formadrol Extreme after completing four weeks of Super-DMZ Rx.

Formadrol was on the list of products to use as a follow-up supplement.

Weight and measurements upon beginning using the IronMagLabs supplement:

9/13/2010

183.8 lbs.
Neck 14.25
R. Arm 12.5/14
L. Arm same
Shoulders 48
Chest 40.5/45
Waist 35
Hips 39
Thigh 23
Calf 15
Forearm 11.5
Ankle 9.25
Wrist 6.5

Got a fricking cold during the third week, though. Bitter-making.

But I definitely love this supplement and am looking forward to finishing the bottle at some point in the future.

Taken after three weeks using Super-DMX:

Note the Dorian Yates black socks action!

10/2/2010

193.9 lbs.

Neck 14 7/8" Son of a... couldn't make it to 15?

R. Arm 12 7/8" relaxed/hanging at side 14 5/8" flexed
L. Arm 13" relaxed 14 5/8" flexed

My left arm was 15" flexed and pumped after my most recent arm workout and with my fist nearly touching my freaking shoulder to squeeeeze out the extra hair to reach that measurement. lol

Shoulders 49
Chest 41.25/45.75
Waist 35.25
Hips 39.5
Thigh 24
Calf 15.5
Forearm 12
Ankle 9.25
Wrist 6.5

I ended my Super-DMZ Rx regimen on Friday night, October 8th. Used the product for four weeks at just 1 capsule (10mg) per day. So my start date was September 13th.

Originally Posted by Curt James

Tuesday, September 7, 2010

DB Bench 30's X 12, 35's X 10, 40's X 8, 45's X 7
Incline DB Bench 30's X 12, 35's X 10, 40's X 10, 45's X 6
DB Flyes (Pec Deck) 70 X 12, 90 X 10, 110 X 8, 8
Pushups BW X 12, 12, 8, 6
Machine Reverse Flyes 50 X 12, 70 X 12, 80 X 10, 90 X 8
DB Press 25's X 12, 35's X 10, 40's X 8, 8
Lateral Raises 15's X 12, 20's X 12, 25's X 8, 8
Upright Rows 40 X 12, 50 X 10, 60 X 8, 8

Originally Posted by Curt James

Tuesday, October 12, 2010

DB Bench 60's X 8, 70's X 6, 75's X 4, 3
Incline DB Bench 55's X 8, 65's X 5, 3
Pushups BW X 13, 8, 6, 6
DB Press 45's X 6, 6, 6
Upright Rows 50 X 12, 60 X 8, 65 X 8, 70 X 7

Nice jump from beginning to now for benching.

Well, a pathetic start really.

But SUPER-DMZ Rx™ is a supplement I would definitely recommend. I was hesitant with the need for PCT but that has been smooth sailing so far.

**jbryand101b** · 10-29-2010, 10:53 PM

nice write up. it is a pretty good description of the compound. compound becomes methyldrostanolone-azine though once broken down.

this is what changes the compound immensly, the nitrogen bond (azine) bond.

**heavyiron** · 10-30-2010, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by jbryand101b

nice write up. it is a pretty good description of the compound. compound becomes methyldrostanolone-azine though once broken down.

this is what changes the compound immensly, the nitrogen bond (azine) bond.

Yes,
There is an azine bridge in between the molecules. This azine bond probably gets hydrolyzed in the body, eventually that supposedly releases free superdrol molecules.

Whether this prodrug linkage changes the pharmacological properties of the steroid i am not sure. However in assays the anabolic/androgenic rating of Dimethazine and Superdrol are WAY different so something changes the properties of these molecules otherwise the A/A rating would be the same. It is possible some fraction of the azine bond remains partially unhydrolyzed, binding to receptors with the nitrogen atoms attached, but this is just speculation.
However, now I have had more time to think about this and when I consulted Patrick Arnold he thinks the assays may be different since different parties did them. In other words the assays may be incorrect.

At this time I am leaning towards the azine bond in Dimethazine is hydrolyzed by HCl (gastric acid) and frees the two methyldrostanolone (SD) molecules. This no doubt yields a very powerful steroid.

**jbryand101b** · 10-30-2010, 10:45 AM

i'll have to look more into this as well to be sure, I've ran it twice, solo, and stacked with max lmg, it is alot different than superdrol.

yea, looks like it really isn't known, but can only be assumed.

Originally Posted by henryv

I believe it breaks down to two molecules that are very similar to superdrol but instead of the 3-ketone function they have a cyano (nitrogen) functional group. This will change the electronic properties of the compound, and therefore the binding to the androgen receptor (and the effects of the drug) will be different to superdrol.

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

whether the hydrazone intermediates have activity we dont know

**heavyiron** · 10-30-2010, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by jbryand101b

i'll have to look more into this as well to be sure, I've ran it twice, solo, and stacked with max lmg, it is alot different than superdrol.

yea, looks like it really isn't known, but can only be assumed.

Hahaha, that quote from PA is exactly why I e-mailed him a few days ago to get clarity on his thinking.

How did you like the Dimethazine and how was it different from Superdrol in your opinion.

**jbryand101b** · 10-30-2010, 02:09 PM

when I run a good superdrol clone, it's like bam! within a few days, im able to tell im on something good.

dimethazine is a little different, for me, I noticed it drying me up alot, while still increasing strength.

first time I ran it solo, and didn't really like it, but felt it would be better with something that aromatizes, and will add some more estrogen. like test for ex.

second time, i ran it with max lmg, and it was still a little dry, but def felt alot better with the added compound. which makes me think if i had test with it, you would feel amazing.

As long as you dont get sick after comming off dimethazine, gains should be alot easier to keep than with superdrol.

**heavyiron** · 10-30-2010, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by jbryand101b

when I run a good superdrol clone, it's like bam! within a few days, im able to tell im on something good.

dimethazine is a little different, for me, I noticed it drying me up alot, while still increasing strength.

first time I ran it solo, and didn't really like it, but felt it would be better with something that aromatizes, and will add some more estrogen. like test for ex.

second time, i ran it with max lmg, and it was still a little dry, but def felt alot better with the added compound. which makes me think if i had test with it, you would feel amazing.

As long as you dont get sick after comming off dimethazine, gains should be alot easier to keep than with superdrol.

Good to know.

I completely agree that it would be best run with testosterone.

What duration did you run it?

**heavyiron** · 11-14-2010, 05:52 PM

I found an old i-force article on the web today with some interesting claims about Dymethazine.

About Dymethazine:

In only 4 years since the Pro-Hormone ban of 2005 countless products have claimed to be as strong as or even stronger than the over the counter hormones once sold. After considerable time, energy, and research performed by i-Force's product formulation team, we are proud to announce the hormonal product everyone has been waiting for.

Featuring unheard of anabolic and myotropic effects, Dymethazine was compared to Methyltestosterone, Oxymethalone, Androstanazole and Testosterone Propionate in their protein-anabolic activity. Dymethazine was shown to have the HIGHEST myotropic (muscle building) effects out of any of the previously named steroids (Methyl-Test, Anadrol, Winstrol, and Testosterone Propionate)! In addition to this, it also displayed an ability to induce a higher rate of Nitrogen retention than Methyl-Test.(1)

In another study performed on Dymethazine, patients were administered Dymethazine for 45+ days. Liver values did not change for 50% of patients, while the other 50% noticed only modest to moderate increases in liver values(2). So, Dymethazine can increase liver values, however nowhere near the current methyl monsters on the market today. This means Dymethazine can be run for 4-6 weeks without the need of expensive liver support supplements.

Hormonal products that give huge strength/weight gains are usually associated with watery or wet gains due to large amounts of aromatization resulting in high levels of estrogen in the body. Too much estrogen can cause severe bloating, fat gain, and even potential growth problems. Dymethazine features 0% ability to aromatize and expresses an extremely weak androgenic activity (3). This means Dymethazine will produce intense gain, has very little to no liver impact, and will cause absolutely no estrogen related side effects.

Move beyond the pro-hormones of yesterday, and step into the future of Designer Steroids with Dymethazine. Consume 1-3 capsules, evenly spaced throughout the day. Do not use Dymethazine for longer than 6 weeks. Immediately begin PCT dosing protocol upon finishing Dymethazine. Wait at least 90 days before running Dymethazine again.

Referrences

1. Biological activity of dimethazine in the protein-anabolic field. Matscher, R.; Lupo, C.; De, P. Ruggieri. Lab. Ric. Ormonoter. Richter, Milan, Bollettino - Societa Italiana di Biologia Sperimentale (1962), 38 988-90. CODEN: BSIBAC ISSN: 0037-8771. Journal language unavailable. CAN 58:34623 AN 1963:34623 CAPLUS
2. Protracted action of protein anabolism in gynecological oncology and its effect on hepatic function. Dambrosio, F.; Donatelli, G. Fontana. Univ. Milan, Cancro, Il (1963), 16(5), 553-604. Journal language unavailable. CAN 62:11656 AN 1965:11656 CAPLUS
3. A new steroid with protein anabolic activity: dimethazine. De Ruggieri, P.; Matscher, R.; Gandolfi, C.; Chiaramonti, D.; Lupo, C.; Pietra, E.; Cavalli, R. Ormonoterap. Richter, Milan, Archivio di Scienze Biologiche (Bologna) (1963), 47(1), 1-19. CODEN: ASBIAL ISSN: 0004-0169. Journal language unavailable. CAN 60:46973 AN 1964:46973 CAPLUS

**TwisT** · 11-14-2010, 10:20 PM

Looks great, doing some research on it now... might be something I want to try for myself!

-TG

**SFW** · 11-15-2010, 03:37 AM

Lack of appetite and nausea doesnt seem to be a prob with dmz. i felt pretty sick on mdrol/sd. DHT derivatives seem to increase my libido, dmz is no exception.

Pumps are rediculous and vascularity was bitching as well.

No noticable lethargy either (i did stack with test though)

Not a sense of well being like with dbol or tbol but you do feel "on" with dmz.

**heavyiron** · 11-15-2010, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by TimGreenly

Looks great, doing some research on it now... might be something I want to try for myself!

-TG

Found this abstract in English last night. Looks pretty heavy duty.

Comparisons with methyltest, winny, anadrol and test prop showed better mytropic effect on the castrates with Dimethazine.

Biological activity of dimethazine in the protein-anabolic field.

Matscher, R.; Lupo, C.; De, P. Ruggieri. Lab. Ric. Ormonoter. Richter, Milan, Bollettino - Societa Italiana di Biologia Sperimentale (1962), 38 988-90. CODEN: BSIBAC ISSN: 0037-8771. Journal language unavailable. CAN 58:34623 AN 1963:34623 CAPLUS

Abstract

Dimethazine (I), 2,17-dimethyl-5-androstan-17-ol-3,3'-azine, was compared to methyltestosterone, oxymethalone, androstanazole and testosterone propionate in its protein-anabolic activity. The tests were made on castrated rats with a single hypodermic injection of 250 , on young male and female rats with increasing daily oral doses from 100 to 1000 for 30 days, and on adult male rats with daily oral doses of 1000 for 25 days. It was shown that I did not interfere with the growth of young animals; that adult rats treated with I gained, on an av., 20 g. more in wt. than the controls; and that I had a greater myotropic effect on castrates than the other steroids, and induced a higher N retention than methyltestosterone in adult males.

**heavyiron** · 11-15-2010, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastico

Lack of appetite and nausea doesnt seem to be a prob with dmz. i felt pretty sick on mdrol/sd. DHT derivatives seem to increase my libido, dmz is no exception.

Pumps are rediculous and vascularity was bitching as well.

No noticable lethargy either (i did stack with test though)

Not a sense of well being like with dbol or tbol but you do feel "on" with dmz.

I agree, I have zero sides so far on Super-DMZ.

I think stacking it with testosterone is a great strategy for a more comfortable cycle.

**heavyiron** · 11-16-2010, 11:00 AM

Here is an abstract where females took 20mg for 45+ days...and it appears that less than half had any liver issues.

Protracted action of protein anabolism in gynecological oncology and its effect on hepatic function.

Dambrosio, F.; Donatelli, G. Fontana. Univ. Milan, Cancro, Il (1963), 16(5), 553-604. Journal language unavailable. CAN 62:11656 AN 1965:11656 CAPLUS

Abstract

Twenty mg. of dimethazine, an anabolizing steroid, was administered daily for 45-95 days to 11 gynecological patients. More than 50% of the cases showed no change in the bilirubinemia, the others showed modest to moderate increases. The glutamic-oxalacetic and the glutamic-pyruvic transaminases of the serum increased greatly in 3 patients. The albumins concn. usually decreased in the course of the treatment, while the globulins concn. did not change.

**burnsyboy** · 11-17-2010, 03:23 AM

Im thinking of taking this product as the missus has banned me taking any steds as we are trying for a baby. Do you think this product would be safe to take? Would it effect male fertility?

**Life** · 11-17-2010, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by burnsyboy

Im thinking of taking this product as the missus has banned me taking any steds as we are trying for a baby. Do you think this product would be safe to take? Would it effect male fertility?

It is a steroid and as such will effect sperm count. Safe is a relative term. Are you going to front load liver support before taking it? Then yes its pretty safe. Will it effect the chances of you "making the basket?" Yes. Should have started a new thread though.

**heavyiron** · 11-17-2010, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by burnsyboy

Im thinking of taking this product as the missus has banned me taking any steds as we are trying for a baby. Do you think this product would be safe to take? Would it effect male fertility?

That is tough to say. I would get a sperm test to be sure. I was on steroids for 3 years and my semen test came back at 80 million which is good however I was using HCG at the time along side the steroids.

**burnsyboy** · 11-17-2010, 08:23 AM

Thanks, Yeah not sure what to do on that front then anyone else know about this?

**lexymarx** · 11-17-2010, 08:29 AM

can i stack this supplement

**heavyiron** · 11-17-2010, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by lexymarx

can i stack this supplement

Yes, I recommend testosterone.

**heavyiron** · 11-18-2010, 10:27 AM

This seems to support published reports that Dimethazine possesses a lower androgenic rating which would mean less androgenic sides and more anabolic muscle building effects.

A new steroid with protein anabolic activity: dimethazine.

De Ruggieri, P.; Matscher, R.; Gandolfi, C.; Chiaramonti, D.; Lupo, C.; Pietra, E.; Cavalli, R. Ormonoterap. Richter, Milan, Archivio di Scienze Biologiche (Bologna) (1963), 47(1), 1-19. CODEN: ASBIAL ISSN: 0004-0169. Journal language unavailable. CAN 60:46973 AN 1964:46973 CAPLUS

Abstract

Dimethazine (I) was evaluated for the following biol. activities: androgenic, N retaining, P retaining, and Ca retaining. The increase in uptake of -aminoisobutyric acid-1-14C and the increase in body wt. were also investigated. Data obtained, tabulated, and compared to those obtained with methyltestosterone established that I is a protein anabolic steroid with weak androgenic activity.

**Stewart14** · 11-18-2010, 12:28 PM

I am hesistant to try this product due to all the concerns with liver toxicity. Basically, if I am a healthy individual, and I use a liver protectant supplement before and during and use the product responsibly, ie, 20mg per day for a 4 week cycle, is there really anything to worry about?

what would be some signs to look out for as far as liver issues go? What supplements do you guys suggest for the liver? I have liver juice on hand by primordial performance, is that good? Are any liver complications that may arise only temporary and will be reversed upon stopping the dmz? What do you guys recommend as the best PCT if I choose to go the legal route for that as well, ie, no clomid or nolva?

I know the gains are supposed to come quick and heavy, are these gains sustainable after the cycle, or will some of that newfound size and strength diminish?

and finally, for you guys that have used the product, how many of you have had liver tests done after your cycle to see what is going on?

thanks for your answers.

**Life** · 11-18-2010, 01:09 PM

You really need to do more research. There isn't one person that can answer all of those questions for you. Some liver issues associated with AAS usage are reversible, some are not. It depends upon the person and there isn't anyway to tell exactly what it is doing even with blood work (Although that helps a great deal). If you start turning jaundice its probably hepatic and you would need to stop usage immediately and see a doctor. Most people run milk thistle and liver-x or liv-52 for liver protection but you would need to start this a good 2-4 weeks before going on cycle.

How it will effect you is different from person to person. I kept all of my gains after cycle but I was using clomid, using "legal" serms will most likely not give you the same results. I did also stack with formadrol though.

**heavyiron** · 11-18-2010, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Here is an abstract where females took 20mg for 45-95 days...and it appears that less than half had any liver issues.

Protracted action of protein anabolism in gynecological oncology and its effect on hepatic function.

Dambrosio, F.; Donatelli, G. Fontana. Univ. Milan, Cancro, Il (1963), 16(5), 553-604. Journal language unavailable. CAN 62:11656 AN 1965:11656 CAPLUS

Abstract

Twenty mg. of dimethazine, an anabolizing steroid, was administered daily for 45-95 days to 11 gynecological patients. More than 50% of the cases showed no change in the bilirubinemia, the others showed modest to moderate increases. The glutamic-oxalacetic and the glutamic-pyruvic transaminases of the serum increased greatly in 3 patients. The albumins concn. usually decreased in the course of the treatment, while the globulins concn. did not change.

Originally Posted by Stewart14

I am hesistant to try this product due to all the concerns with liver toxicity. Basically, if I am a healthy individual, and I use a liver protectant supplement before and during and use the product responsibly, ie, 20mg per day for a 4 week cycle, is there really anything to worry about?

what would be some signs to look out for as far as liver issues go? What supplements do you guys suggest for the liver? I have liver juice on hand by primordial performance, is that good? Are any liver complications that may arise only temporary and will be reversed upon stopping the dmz? What do you guys recommend as the best PCT if I choose to go the legal route for that as well, ie, no clomid or nolva?

I know the gains are supposed to come quick and heavy, are these gains sustainable after the cycle, or will some of that newfound size and strength diminish?

and finally, for you guys that have used the product, how many of you have had liver tests done after your cycle to see what is going on?

thanks for your answers.

I posted the above abstract earlier in this thread. These subjects did not use liver support like Liv 52 and most were fine after administration. I have posted a ton of solid info in this thread. Read through it carefully.

Clomid may be obtained legally and is advised for PCT.

**Stewart14** · 11-18-2010, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by heavyiron

I posted the above abstract earlier in this thread. These subjects did not use liver support like Liv 52 and most were fine after administration. I have posted a ton of solid info in this thread. Read through it carefully.

Clomid may be obtained legally and is advised for PCT.

Oh, I've read everything you posted, thanks for that, I was just looking for more real world examples from I guess people here who have used it. I would like to take their experiences and combine it with the info you posted and what else is out there and then make an educated decision.

**heavyiron** · 11-18-2010, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Stewart14

Oh, I've read everything you posted, thanks for that, I was just looking for more real world examples from I guess people here who have used it. I would like to take their experiences and combine it with the info you posted and what else is out there and then make an educated decision.

This steroid was studied in clinical settings decades ago. It is safe at reasonable doses and durations however cycle support is a no brainer with any oral so I would use Liv 52 regardless of the data.

**ATyler** · 11-18-2010, 03:21 PM

I just starting taking dmz 30mg ed on monday. So far I love it. The pumps are awesome and my intensity in the weight room has increased alot. As strength and liver wise I can't say since im so early in my cycle. Im takin liv 52 and am using only clomid for pct

**Big Dawg** · 11-18-2010, 06:28 PM

Hey guys,

There is so much info out there on this product. Some say its not as good as the Superdrol that was banned. Then there are the articles that say this is the real stuff. I have done my fair share of AAS cycles and becouse of that I am now on maintanance dose of test.(script so very low dose). Are the guys that are getting gains from this stuff equal to AAS type of results? And again based on the chemical make-up should you be able to get such results. I am 40 so I am not new to the supplement game, thats why I enjoy sites like this, there is so much BS on the market and it is tuff to weed through it all. With money tight these days it would be nice to know the crap that works and the crap that dont....

**heavyiron** · 11-18-2010, 07:06 PM

Dimethazine is a real steroid. It was developed in the 60's. I would describe it as a faster, dryer d-bol.

A low dose of testosterone is the perfect stack in my opinion. That way your mood and libido are maintained.

**heavyiron** · 11-19-2010, 10:00 AM

Little to no progestenic/estrogenic activity...

Biological determination of the secondary hormonal activities of dimethazine.

Lupo, C.; Matscher, R.; Ruggieri, P. De. Lab. Ric. Ormonoter. Richter, Milan., Bollettino - Societa Italiana di Biologia Sperimentale (1962), 38 990-4. CODEN: BSIBAC ISSN: 0037-8771. Journal language unavailable. CAN 58:34624 AN 1963:34624 CAPLUS

Abstract

Expts. with rats and rabbits showed that dimethazine, 2,17-dimethyl-5-androstan-17-ol-3,3'-azine has, in contrast to its protein-anabolic properties, practically no estrogenic, progestational, and corticoid activity. Similarly, it has no effect on liver glycogen, and no antiinflammatory action on the anaphylactoid edema.

Thread: Super-DMZ rx~Dimethazine (old version)

Thread Tools

Display

Super-DMZ rx~Dimethazine (old version)

Similar Threads

Dimethazine

Super Bowl picks...(alternative version)

Posting Permissions