Thread: Q's about first Test Cycle

Originally Posted by jstnelson2006

I just ordered my gear a couple of days ago and I have a couple of questions for you experts. This is my first time and I want to make sure everything goes smoothly. My Cycle will be;

Week 1-6: 500mg test E (250mgx2)
Week 7-12: 750mg test E (375mgx2)

The thing is, I am pretty sure I am prone to gyno. I have had somewhat puffy nipples since I was in my early teens. So just in case, I want to take something to prevent it. I have enough Nolvadex on hand to take 10mg ED starting at week 4 day 1 and carrying on until PCT, where I would increase and do a 40/40/20/20. So my questions are:

1. Is Nolvadex ok to take that long and will it most likely prevent gyno?

2. Is 10mg ED necessary or would 10mg EOD suffice?

3. If Nolvadex is ok, do I need to start it earlier than week 4 day 1? What's the soonest people usually see a gyno flare up?

I would take Arimidex but I've heard it hinders gains while on test. Also, is increasing my test to 750mg each week too much for the first cycle?

Thanks for any help guys. This forum has been a big help

1st:500mg will be enough since it's your first cycle!!!

1.No need to take nolva ed,wait the gyno symptoms to show off and after take 40mg nolva until symptoms completely disappears!!!

2.Keep the nolva for pct and i think i've answered this question already(40mg for 3-4 days until gyno symptoms are gone!!!)

3.Don't assume you're gyno prone and wait to see,this kinda attitude remembers me my gf,never assume something but it is good to always be prepare for the worst...

I don't know where you heard this crap,but ALWAYS take an AI with test,i can swear than if you don't do so you'll eventually develop gyno(even if you're not gyno prone as i am),Arimidex will help prevent bloating and aromatization of the extra test,begin at 1mg e3d or .33mg if you can separate or divide the tabs or caps...

Good luck with your cycle...

Originally Posted by jstnelson2006

I just ordered my gear a couple of days ago and I have a couple of questions for you experts. This is my first time and I want to make sure everything goes smoothly. My Cycle will be;

Week 1-6: 500mg test E (250mgx2)
Week 7-12: 750mg test E (375mgx2)

The thing is, I am pretty sure I am prone to gyno. I have had somewhat puffy nipples since I was in my early teens. So just in case, I want to take something to prevent it. I have enough Nolvadex on hand to take 10mg ED starting at week 4 day 1 and carrying on until PCT, where I would increase and do a 40/40/20/20. So my questions are:

1. Is Nolvadex ok to take that long and will it most likely prevent gyno?

2. Is 10mg ED necessary or would 10mg EOD suffice?

3. If Nolvadex is ok, do I need to start it earlier than week 4 day 1? What's the soonest people usually see a gyno flare up?

I would take Arimidex but I've heard it hinders gains while on test. Also, is increasing my test to 750mg each week too much for the first cycle?

Thanks for any help guys. This forum has been a big help

Weeks 1 - 10 - 500mg Cyp (shoot M and Thurs at 250mg)
Weeks 1 - 10 - Adex at .5mg EOD
Weeks 2 - 10 - 500iu HCG (shoot day before test shots at 250iu)

PCT -
Run HCG at 500iu's EOD for 14 days from last Cyp shot and then stop
14 days from last Cyp shot start Clomid at 200mg for 2 days and then run the rest of that week at 100. 2nd week at 75mg and last 2 weeks at 50.

Have the Nolva on hand if you get gyno.

The Adex will help with your Estrogen and keep bloating down

Make sure your diet is on or you will gain unwanted BF

Fred & Aja did a real good job at explaining things for you. Follow their advice and you should be fine. I totally agree that for your first run 500mgs will be plenty but as was mentioned DONT forget to use you'r ai from day one.

First of all, Reps to AJA and FRED

In general, steroid users find that their
first cycle is the most dramatic in terms
of the gains that they make.

Some users claim to gain a solid thirty
pounds on their first cycle while others
notice little if any gains at all.

Obviously, the athlete that has weight
trained for a number of years, and continues
to train intensely during the cycle and who
eats a high calorie nutrient dense diet,
stands to put on a lot more muscle than the
athletes who are not disciplined enough to
follow through with the whole program.


**Follow what the other in the above post
have stated. This is your first cycle and
there no point in exceeding 500 mg of test
a week.
**Eat, Train and Rest....repeat.


An AI is great to run during a cycle. It is
also very popular among atheletes using
anabolic steroids. Arimidex is an anti-estrogens
to use during a steroid cycle. Commonly
athletes use 0.25 mg. to 1 mg. per day or
0.5 mg. to 1 mg. every other day.
Arimidex, being an aromatase inhibitor, prevents
gynecomastia and minimizes water retention
and has also been proven to increase natural
testosterone production.

I am have a slight case of gyno and to keep it from flaring up, i use aromasin @ 25mg ED. I have tried 12.5 ED and for me personally that wasn't enough.

Originally Posted by fredlabrute

1.No need to take nolva ed,wait the gyno symptoms to show off and after take 40mg nolva until symptoms completely disappears!!!

2.Keep the nolva for pct and i think i've answered this question already(40mg for 3-4 days until gyno symptoms are gone!!!)

3.Don't assume you're gyno prone and wait to see,this kinda attitude remembers me my gf,never assume something but it is good to always be prepare for the worst...

I don't know where you heard this crap,but ALWAYS take an AI with test,i can swear than if you don't do so you'll eventually develop gyno(even if you're not gyno prone as i am),Arimidex will help prevent bloating and aromatization of the extra test,begin at 1mg e3d or .33mg if you can separate or divide the tabs or caps...

Good luck with your cycle...

Nolva is shit.

Maybe this was a typo but I think I just read that you should wait to see if you get gyno symptoms before you take action.

the smart thing to do is to get an AI and run it throughout the cycle. You want to prevent gyno, not invite it. An A.I. isn't going to inhibit your gains too much if dosed correctly. It will keep off the bloat and keep you from getting gyno.

PCT, again nolvadex is shit. use Clomid.

It would be wise to run HCG throughout the cycle as well

I think one of posters mentioned taking an AI and said to wait till you think you have gyno symptoms and then take nolva. I read all but the last past last night.

Originally Posted by cavtrooper96

I think one of posters mentioned taking an AI and said to wait till you think you have gyno symptoms and then take nolva. I read all but the last past last night.

well if that is what they meant then it's horrible advice