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    BIG 2ND CYCLE!! Advice needed

    I'm 23 weighing at about 215lbs and at 9% body fat. Just finished recovering from my first cycle, test e 500mg a week for 12 weeks.*

    For my next cycle I'm looking at something like this:

    Wildcat TNT mast 250 (test prop 100mg, tren A 75mg, Mast prop 75mg)

    Week 1-10 tntmast EOD
    Week 1-10 100mg deca
    Week 1-8 test e 500mg

    So basically in a week I'll be taking 800-900mg of test, 225-300mg tern/mast, and 100mg deca

    The reason why I stop test e at week 8, is so that I will have no more test left in my body come week 11 and ready for pct. What are your thoughts on this?

    PCT is sorted as I have already been through it.*However I'm going to run 1000ius HCG every week from start*

    Any help is appreciated*

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    How much did you gain from first cycle? IMO, your deca is too low and test too high considering you did 500 mg per week in first cycle. If you experienced good gains in first cycle, why make changes? If it were me, I would just bump test slightly to maybe 600 mg per week and add the deca at 300 mg per week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulked45 View Post
    I'm 23 weighing at about 215lbs and at 9% body fat. Just finished recovering from my first cycle, test e 500mg a week for 12 weeks.*

    For my next cycle I'm looking at something like this:

    Wildcat TNT mast 250 (test prop 100mg, tren A 75mg, Mast prop 75mg)

    Week 1-10 tntmast EOD
    Week 1-10 100mg deca
    Week 1-8 test e 500mg

    So basically in a week I'll be taking 800-900mg of test, 225-300mg tern/mast, and 100mg deca

    The reason why I stop test e at week 8, is so that I will have no more test left in my body come week 11 and ready for pct. What are your thoughts on this?

    PCT is sorted as I have already been through it.*However I'm going to run 1000ius HCG every week from start*

    Any help is appreciated*
    I was given some solid advise from some guys on here when I was researching to begin my first cycle and I will pass it along to you.

    1. As a newbie, for your first 2 or 3 cycles you should not mix esters until you have run them solo before so that you know how they affect you. So in this case, you ran Test E, why not just run Prop with maybe a kicker.

    2. Tren should not be run until you have 3-5 cycles under your belt and you have experience.

    So with that said, and knowing your NOT going to listen, I would say the following:

    Why do you feel the need to go from 500mg Test to 900mg Test per week on your second cycle? I think you would be fine running 75mg Prop ED and make huge gains. That would put you at 525mg Prop per week.

    Dont think your going to get anything out of 100mg Deca per week, I think its a waste.

    Where is your AI??

    Your running to much HCG per week. Cut it back to.

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    Would definitely keep the deca for a future cycle...
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    Pick deca or tren. I would start with deca and kick up the dose. If you want to run that much test go ahead. You will probably do it anyways. You need an AI, unless you like bloat and please don't run the deca or tren two weeks past your test. Deca or tren will shut you down harder than test ever could. Do the opposite, stop the deca or tren 2 weeks before the test.

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    Week 1-10 tntmast EOD
    Week 1-10 100mg deca
    Week 1-8 test e 500mg

    This cycle is a little backwards.
    You should really run test e for at least 12 weeks. That said the Deca should also be Run for at least 12 weeks. But you don't want to quit them both at the same time. The deca actually stays in your system longer that the Test E. So i would run Test E for 14 weeks and Run Deca for 12 weeks.
    At 100mg you won't see squat. at 250 mg, you will have nicely lubed joints. at 400 mgs now we can see some good weight gains.
    With that said, your test should always be a couple hundred mg more than your deca that way you wont get deca dick.
    As far as the TNTmast, forget it. just go with deca. is a mild form of tren. go with it for your first time and see how it works. that way you know how it affects you.

    So it should look more like this
    Week 1-12 400mg deca
    Week 1-14 600mg Test E

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