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    Need help

    I know i posted almost the same post yesterday but i only had a few peeps reply and i would also like to try and send private messages and it says i must creat more posts so with that said i need your advice on this cycle im about to take

    Im 5'9 approximately 160 weight. I work out 5 times a week with no cardio right now. I have a very very fast metablism and have diffaculty gaining quality weight. I have done 2 cycles in the past but it was 2 yrs ago. My goals are to gain weight / size / strength ! I would like to have a six pack by the end of the cycle but if i dont its no biggie, the weight gain / size and strenght r the most important I know 2 out of the 3 things im taking will not do alot for my abs. ok so here it is

    wk 1-6 anadrol 50mg ed
    wk 1-12 ethenate 450 mg once a week they r a 300mg bottles
    wk 1-24 HGH 2iu eod
    Please help what does everyone think with this cycle for the results i want and whats some good gear for a pct i have arimedex i think i spelled that right lol PLEASE HELP ! THANKS

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    Perhaps you may want to consider getting a handle on your diet before you begin another cycle. Steroids will not help you overcome your insufficient nutrition. How many calories are you eating each day?

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    bro, it is all one your diet. diet is always the key to losing and gaining weight. someone like you should need around 5000 min. per-day. protein intake should be 2X your body weight min. take care when on anadrol. if you eat tons of fat cal. you will gain tons of fat.

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    It is all about your diet! Eat, Rest, Train, Repeat!

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    Ok thanks alot. Um i know i kinda was a little rough when i said my diet was not great but i have had as low as 4 percent body fat I do know diet is important. I have already started eating alot better i seem to b very tough on my sefl but i eat ALOT of protein and take supplaments for it. I WAS REALLY HOPING TO GET SOME IDEAS ON MY CYCLE ! My diet will be where it needs to be once i start and its preety close now i dont eat bad at all.

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    i would only run the drol for 13 weeks at a time... maybe even two weeks.
    this way you can run it a couple times during your cycle...

    if it was me it would look like this

    (1-4) Test 400 (split in two shots)
    (5-12) Test 600 (split in two shots)
    (1-2,7-8,12-13) Drol
    (1-13) hcg 250iu day before test shot
    (1-13)some sort of ai
    start PCT week 14.

    just my .02 because u asked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardCharger_84 View Post
    Ok thanks alot. Um i know i kinda was a little rough when i said my diet was not great but i have had as low as 4 percent body fat I do know diet is important. I have already started eating alot better i seem to b very tough on my sefl but i eat ALOT of protein and take supplaments for it. I WAS REALLY HOPING TO GET SOME IDEAS ON MY CYCLE ! My diet will be where it needs to be once i start and its preety close now i dont eat bad at all.
    It's not a matter of "not bad at all" - or not good at all. It's a matter of calories.

    You have to figure out a way to consistently eat more calories than you consume.

    How many calories do you take in right now? If you don't know, go here and enter a typical "day" of food intake and post up the numbers beside the pie-chart.

    If I can see how many grams of protein, carb, fat, fibre and your total calories, I'll be able to make a suggestion that will help you gain now, when you're on, and importantly, keep those gains when you come off.
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    first of all I would ditch the anadrol and switch to Primo. Anadrol is so damn nasty, just my opinion. You are already pinning so ditch the damn anadrol, or maybe even switch to anavar. Why are you gonna use 2 ius oed of hgh? This will be a waste. You need to jump to at least 4ius ed, I would do two ius early am, empty stomach and 2 ius mid afternoon or post workout. I believe using hgh prebed time fucks your natural growth levels while sleeping. You are def gonna need to throw some hcg in the mix. I used to run EQ wit test en, and hgh with hcg, always had dry clean looking results. Its a milder cycle, but Im sensitive t some of the stronger stuff. I would read about primo if I were you. just my opinion. Dont bother running anything though, unless your diet is extremely on point. After your hgh cycle,at least 20 weeks is over I would seriously run a ghrp, to restore your body back to optimal levels, hell you can even pin 100mcs right before bed, use Ipamorelin, if you run ghrp 6 or hex, be prepared to fucking eat. The Ipamorelin wont really increase your ghrelin, so it will help you stay on the leaner side. ghood luck!!!
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    Well my diet is around 5000 cal a day its hard to keep track of my cal count. I work nights and shift work so my hrs r not like most peeps. I eat almost all protein chicken fish, alot of vegies and fruits also very little startch no sweets no coke or pepsis. i eat 6 small meals a day i try atleast if its not a meal then if will be a shake or some sort of supplament. I try to eat and eat alot but healthy beacuse of my matabilsm is so fast i just burn everything off so fast. The reason imdoing anadrol is because it will help with the gains cause it hard for me to gain but very easy for me to lose and get ripped, i could use something else just figured anadrol would blow me up and with the test e ive herd thats a good test but i could use another but why ? and for the hgh im only using it to give me a little more energy and eat away some fat towards the end of my cycle but i guess i could replace it ive jsut herd it is good for that and more with little to no side effects ?? um lets c what else :-) o yes imnot sure what primo is i will read about it unless it some sort of slang for something i already know about um not sure. also hch is a hormone right ive done test anadrol dbal etc bfore but i dont really know to much about hormones and was kinda hoping to stay away from stuff i dont know of course i hgh is too. some more advice please mayb we r getting into it to much and mayb jsut back on track with the cycle idk :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardCharger_84 View Post
    Well my diet is around 5000 cal a day its hard to keep track of my cal count.
    If it's hard to keep track, how do you know it's 5000 a day?
    Quote Originally Posted by HardCharger_84 View Post
    I work nights and shift work so my hrs r not like most peeps. I eat almost all protein chicken fish, alot of vegies and fruits also very little startch no sweets no coke or pepsis. i eat 6 small meals a day
    How small are your meals? 5000 calories a day divided by six is over 800 calories a meal. One pound (16 ounces) of boneless skinless chicken (weighed before cooking it) has 500 calories and over 100g of protein.

    Quote Originally Posted by HardCharger_84 View Post
    i try atleast if its not a meal then if will be a shake or some sort of supplament. I try to eat and eat alot but healthy beacuse of my matabilsm is so fast i just burn everything off so fast.
    You're not eating 5000 calories a day.

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    The reason imdoing anadrol is because it will help with the gains cause it hard for me to gain but very easy for me to lose and get ripped, i could use something else just figured anadrol would blow me up
    I know you think you're eating a lot, but you aren't. I also know you think gear will blow you up, but as incongruous as this sounds, a few grams of gear does NOT magically add 20 lbs to your physique.

    I'd like to see you eat 5000 calories a day for two weeks. You'll have to preplan a day, then stick to it for a week.

    Do that, and if you don't gain weight, I'll be shocked.
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    BUILT, I never said i have not gained weight i was 142 now im 160 and i gained it all with no juice all diet and excercise. I know steroids r not magic ! i was simply asking with this post if the stack i had was a good one for me gaining weight, size and strength. of course u must have a good work out and diet and pct etc etc.. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT STACK LOL NOT TRYING TO BE AN ASS THATS ALL

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardCharger_84 View Post
    BUILT, I never said i have not gained weight i was 142 now im 160 and i gained it all with no juice all diet and excercise. I know steroids r not magic ! i was simply asking with this post if the stack i had was a good one for me gaining weight, size and strength. of course u must have a good work out and diet and pct etc etc.. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT STACK LOL NOT TRYING TO BE AN ASS THATS ALL
    You're right, you didn't say you had not gained weight. You DID say you have a hard time gaining weight though, and that you have a fast metabolism:
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    I have a very very fast metablism and have diffaculty gaining quality weight.
    When someone starts a thread in the Anabolic Zone saying he has a hard time gaining weight and that's why he wants to run gear, the advice he's going to hear invariably pisses him off: you need to sort out your diet.

    If you said you had gotten to the point where the only weight you seem to gain is fat, or that you want to take it to the next level and you've got your diet worked out, or you're at the point of wanting to lean out a bit but keep your gains by running a cycle while on maintenance calories, we'd know you understand the process. But you didn't say those things. You said you have trouble keeping a reasonable diet. You don't really know how many calories you're eating. You think a STACK will put weight on you, and I'm sorry, but there is NO POSSIBLE WAY a few grams of gear will add 20 lbs to your frame. That part's food. You have to know how to eat enough to make those gains, and you need to know how to eat enough to KEEP them when you're off.

    To answer your question, I'm glad you asked about your cycle before you went ahead with it. The one you're planning could be better, and cheaper. Stick with a test-only cycle for your first one. You're lean now, you're unlikely to develop gyno but keep your ancillaries on hand just in case. Read the "first cycle" sticky and read this before you proceed.

    PS I'm not trying to be an ass either. We all want the same thing here. Let's get you sorted out so you can reach your goals as efficiently as possible; sound good?
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    Thanks for the info everyone ! Also thanks built

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    i need more threads so um thanks again everyone

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