Thread: What to use for pct

arimidex is for gyno only...you can not use it for a pct. It is good you have adex as you will use it during your cycle.

HCG is not a pct...it is used during cycle to make recovery easier and leave the boys hanging low.

Clomid is standard, if you can not get clomid get nolva. You can find them here with the sponsers to your left. If you do not have a pct, you may lose all your gains and you will fel like crap.

O hey thanks alot thats just what i wanted to know !! hey if u happen to read this do u mind if i tell u my cycle and u see what u think of it ive juiced b4 buts its been yrs this is basically and first cycle. thanks

what do u think i need minamal for pct ?

post up your cycle we will take a look at it.

I would get some clomid for PCT. I would also use armidex or aromasin during your PCT as well. You don't want your estro levels to be too high during PCT since your test levels are going to drop until your natty test kicks back in. Which is why you use clomid, to you restore your natural test production.

So pickup clomid and armidex or aromasin for your PCT.

minimal pct depends on what compounds you are taking.....a very common pct is clomid: day one and two take 200mg, weeks 1-4 use 100/75/50/50.

Post your cycle and we will critique it.

Wow!

Ok thanks for the info so far so my cycle here it is i have the stuff now but i can get rid of it and get something else or more of it or less just wondering on what your thoughts are.

i Weigh 160 right now, from 142 with just diet and exercise and im 5'9 and 26 yrs old

wk1-6 anadrol 50mg ed
wk1-12 ethenate 450mg once a week the bottles are 300 ml
wk1-24 hgh 2iu eod
arimedex for gyno just in case
ok so im def gonna get some clomid and hcg. how much hcg should i use ? is it everyday ? once a week ? etc also what i want to do with this cycle is gain muscle / weight / size / strength i just want to be all around bigger i dont care if i have a wash bored stomach. I have done ALOT of reading about these compouds im gonna be taking but im not to educated with the pct compounds i need, but i will def read alot more before i start i was just curious what everyone thought about this cycle

[QUOTE=pyes;2098905]arimidex is for gyno only...you can not use it for a pct. It is good you have adex as you will use it during your cycle.


so you would only use aromasin throughout cycle? you wouldn't keep using it through pct with clomid or novla?

Originally Posted by pyes

arimidex is for gyno only...you can not use it for a pct. It is good you have adex as you will use it during your cycle.

HCG is not a pct...it is used during cycle to make recovery easier and leave the boys hanging low.

Clomid is standard, if you can not get clomid get nolva. You can find them here with the sponsers to your left. If you do not have a pct, you may lose all your gains and you will fel like crap.

so you would only use aromasin throughout cycle? you wouldn't keep using it through pct with clomid or novla? **

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Originally Posted by pyes

arimidex is for gyno only...you can not use it for a pct. It is good you have adex as you will use it during your cycle.


so you would only use aromasin throughout cycle? you wouldn't keep using it through pct with clomid or novla?

That is correct....aromasin and arimidex (which ever you choose) should stop the day you start pct....the reason for this is...the esters have already cleared your system, and clomid and nolva (which ever you choose for pct) both reduce estrogen anyways....nolva more so as it is known as a suicide ai.

There will be a lot of different opinions on PCT. Nolva is not a suicidal ai. Its not an AI at all, as it does nothing to the aromatase process. Nolva and clomid are both classfied as SERMS and have the abilitiy to cause an estro rebound when you stop taking it. Thats why you would take an AI during your PCT, to avoid this.

pyes and everyone else what do u guys think about the cycle for what i want to do with it ?

Originally Posted by underscore

There will be a lot of different opinions on PCT. Nolva is not a suicidal ai. Its not an AI at all, as it does nothing to the aromatase process. Nolva and clomid are both classfied as SERMS and have the abilitiy to cause an estro rebound when you stop taking it. Thats why you would take an AI during your PCT, to avoid this.

Underscore is right on the money. Aromasin and nolva actually go great together. You don't want to run your AI till the end of pct though. Just until everything has cleared you body. This is where people screw up. they don't run their pct long enough and it causes estro rebound.

I think you should go with straight test E for 12 weeks and leave all the other shit off. Start easy and KISS (keep it simple stupid).

yeah lol theres heaps of different opinions

well aussie, believe it or not i know theres alot of OPINIONS thats why im posting this, for peoples " opinions " why else would peeps post threads here ? and cav dude whats not easy with my cycle ? its 3 simple compounds with some pct after words, theres no shit in it. Whats so difficult about that ? or are you just an idiot ? O but thanks for your opinion :-)

I hope that was not to rude but come on

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haha settle down mate all i was saying there are alot of different views on the issue, i dont know the answer that y i asked a question. But one person said to use AI during cycle and not pct and another said u need to use in PCT

i think i would use during cycle and not pct but yeah still learning shit

Originally Posted by underscore

There will be a lot of different opinions on PCT. Nolva is not a suicidal ai. Its not an AI at all, as it does nothing to the aromatase process. Nolva and clomid are both classfied as SERMS and have the abilitiy to cause an estro rebound when you stop taking it. Thats why you would take an AI during your PCT, to avoid this.

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aussie is the stuff we are talking about legal to get over the counter or do you have to have a prescription ? or do you live in australia ? and sorry for freaking out lol

You need a prescription for everthing in a basic cycle.
Listen to my last post above...I know what I am talking about...there is no need to take an AI in your pct....like stated above. Nolva is a suicide AI and sucks as a pct....nolve decreases your igf-1 and hgh levels which is not ideal for a pct recovery...PERIOD...

To address hardcharger....I agree you have too many compounds for a first cycle...If your body does not agree with a compound, how will you know which one it is? Plus you will make tremendous gains off of a basic cycle. if you want to...run just test and hgh...ditch the drol this time. If i were you, I would run just test this time around. This is your cycle:

week 1-12 test E @ 500mgs
week 3-14 arimidex @ .5 mgs EOD
week 3-12 HCG @ 500ius (2 x a week) so 1000ius every week total
week 15-18 clomid @ 100/75/50/50

hey pyes if i was doin a 10 week cycle of test e 500mg a week and i have aromasin but want it 2 last 2 cycles, what would be the best time to use it, i was thinking it would be more beneficial at end of cycle like starting at week 6 then going to like week 13?? would this be true of would it be better just starting at start of cycle? i have about 7 weeks worth??