Thread: Ordering First CYcle Tomorrow...

i think this is a good cycle for a newbie. the only thing i would maybe do it dbol like 20-30mg for weeks 1-4 to jump start my cycle. takes a little while for these long esters to kick in. looks like ur on the right track. good luck.

It looks like ur arimadex is too high, that might be a typo. Good luck on ur cycle you'll enjoy it.

^^^ True... That looks like dosing for exemestane.

@ OP...

You have 2 5000iu vials/amps? Then I'd go...

800iu EW (400iu 2X Week)

Just my opinion.

Thanks guys, I appreciate all the input.

The Aromadex is exemstene - Aromadex (25mg exemstene)

I am planning on getting clomid for my pct and probably some nolva just to have on hand

Hell

WTH is aromadex???? Is that a cross between arimidex and aromasin????

ahahahah just busting your balls bud. But names like that will confuse us.

Originally Posted by pyes

WTH is aromadex????

Yea it through me off at first. I was just copying and pasting from Hardbody1's list though.

I sent an email earlier with everything I need, just waiting on a response on where to send the $.


Hell

My order has been made for all my supplies from hardbody1.

My question now is that the test e, aromasin, & Hcg are all domestic. My Clomid and Nolva are being shipping from international.

Will I be fine starting with the test since I'll have the aromasin when it gets here or should I wait the extra weeks until the clomid and nolva show up? Is the aromasin enough to handle any sides I could have?

Hell

First of all you'll be pleased with HB1. you went with sciroxx or geneza?

you usually don't need a serms during your cycle (ie, chlomid or nolva) as your AI will do a good job at lowering the estrogen and prevent gyno. (on long esters alone I never start my AI till the 4th week anyhow) but as I suggest to everyone, make sure you have EVERYTHING in your hands before starting. (my advice applies to any sponsors that is being used.)

Hardbody is good to go, I know I'm on a cycle from him right now.
P.S. make sure you give him a review in his forum on your experience

Originally Posted by Hell

My order has been made for all my supplies from hardbody1.

My question now is that the test e, aromasin, & Hcg are all domestic. My Clomid and Nolva are being shipping from international.

Will I be fine starting with the test since I'll have the aromasin when it gets here or should I wait the extra weeks until the clomid and nolva show up? Is the aromasin enough to handle any sides I could have?

Hell

The Aromasin is plenty. Its human grade. I have been taking it with every cycle as my AI because i had gottena slight lump under my nipple years ago from taking a prohormone. So to keep it from getting worse or flarring up, i take 25mg aromasin every day on cycle. When i first started taking it, it actually made my previous gyno shrink alot and took away the tenderness. GOOD STUFF!!!

Cool, I was planning on taking 12.5mg of the aromasin starting on day 1. I ordered the Sciroxx Test E. I will post a review once I receive and will be making a log as this is my first cycle. They have been great so far with communication!

Thanks Guys!!

Hell

I and many others have the rule of never starting any cycle until I have everything in hand for the entire cycle to include PCT. I do not want to take any chances. What if I have to cut the cycle short for many numerous reasons and the PCT products were seized or lost and it will take another 2-4 weeks for shipping. Anything can happen. Plan for the worst but expect the best!

Originally Posted by cavtrooper96

I and many others have the rule of never starting any cycle until I have everything in hand for the entire cycle to include PCT. I do not want to take any chances. What if I have to cut the cycle short for many numerous reasons and the PCT products were seized or lost and it will take another 2-4 weeks for shipping. Anything can happen. Plan for the worst but expect the best!

Thats what I was thinking also, just to be safe.

My question now is that I will have enough Test E to do longer than 12 weeks at 500mg a week. I could do 15 weeks at 500mg a week or 12.5 weeks at 600mg a week? Would ya'll advise either of these options?

Thanks for any help!

You should be fine. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Hell

Thats what I was thinking also, just to be safe.

My question now is that I will have enough Test E to do longer than 12 weeks at 500mg a week. I could do 15 weeks at 500mg a week or 12.5 weeks at 600mg a week? Would ya'll advise either of these options?

Thanks for any help!

Some experts consider 500 over 600 because Test is so dose dependent and the slight increase in dosage can add considerably better gains with basically no difference in sides.

I think Heavy Iron posted some data on that before, but don't quote me.

But I actually dose based on the ratio of my gear and rounding to the nearest .1 on the syringe... 250mg/ml = 1.0 (250), 1.3 (325), 1.6 (400), etc...

Originally Posted by Hell

Thats what I was thinking also, just to be safe.

My question now is that I will have enough Test E to do longer than 12 weeks at 500mg a week. I could do 15 weeks at 500mg a week or 12.5 weeks at 600mg a week? Would ya'll advise either of these options?

Thanks for any help!

How about Neither. i mean yeah you could do one or another. and 100mg wont make a big difference on your first cycle after you pass the 500 point.
If it was me and i only had test E, i would front load 1 gram the first week. followed by a 500mg/week. that would last you 14 weeks.
The reason for a front load is to raise your blood levels faster.

End of cycle
Week 12

My gains have somewhat plateaued out and I'm gonna cruise on some Sciroxx Test E at 250mg's a week for a little while and get some blood work done before I start blasting again.

Age 30
5'11''
Started at 185lb's
Weighed in yesterday at 230lbs

4k+ Calories ED for the past 11 weeks
300+ protein ED for the past 11 weeks

Started - Benching 225 x 2-3
Monday - Benched 315 x 5

Just started doing deads when I started cycle - Can do 315 x 5 - Still working on getting them up higher of course - These have been the biggest factor I think in making me grow overall, especially my traps...

Squats - Can do 315 x 4 but I have let off going heavy on them because of back pumps the past couple weeks with the dbols - My legs are definitly my weakest link - Work in progress

Standing shoulder press - Just started the past couple weeks with going heavy as possible on them and Im loving it - finished it off today at 170lbs x 5

Overall - HB1 and Sciroxx offer great products and great service. I started my cycle at 500mg Test E, upped it to 600 at week 7 or 8 i think, then 750 at week 9 or 10. Added dbols a few weeks ago to finish up with.

Every week I get - Damn you have gotten big Hell!! and.... It looks like your shoulders have exploded Hell!!

Of course I wasn't at my genetic potential when I started or I wouldn't have blown up the way I have but damn I sure have loved every minute of it!
I am happy with my progress overall and try not to compare myself to the huge motherfuckers up at the gym cause they just dwarf me.

Now Im just gonna keep hitting it hard and then eventually start lowering my calories slowly and get rid of the extra fat I picked up with the muscle and get as ripped as possible for Mexico in June!

Train Big, Eat Big, Get Big

Hell~

Originally Posted by pyes

WTH is aromadex???? Is that a cross between arimidex and aromasin????

ahahahah just busting your balls bud. But names like that will confuse us.

I just figured it was a scented arimidex

Unless I missed it somewhere, how was your BF% after cycle? Nonetheless, those are some impressive results. Great job man!

Originally Posted by fray5

Unless I missed it somewhere, how was your BF% after cycle? Nonetheless, those are some impressive results. Great job man!

I really have no clue man, maybe 16%, its definitely went up from when I was 185 when I started the cycle. I did hardly any cardio during the cycle and Im sure that would have helped keep it under control. I just started back with daily cardio a couple days ago so I will have it back under control in no time.

Thanks man!

Originally Posted by Hell

End of cycle
Week 12

My gains have somewhat plateaued out and I'm gonna cruise on some Sciroxx Test E at 250mg's a week for a little while and get some blood work done before I start blasting again.

Age 30
5'11''
Started at 185lb's
Weighed in yesterday at 230lbs

4k+ Calories ED for the past 11 weeks
300+ protein ED for the past 11 weeks

Started - Benching 225 x 2-3
Monday - Benched 315 x 5

Just started doing deads when I started cycle - Can do 315 x 5 - Still working on getting them up higher of course - These have been the biggest factor I think in making me grow overall, especially my traps...

Squats - Can do 315 x 4 but I have let off going heavy on them because of back pumps the past couple weeks with the dbols - My legs are definitly my weakest link - Work in progress

Standing shoulder press - Just started the past couple weeks with going heavy as possible on them and Im loving it - finished it off today at 170lbs x 5

Overall - HB1 and Sciroxx offer great products and great service. I started my cycle at 500mg Test E, upped it to 600 at week 7 or 8 i think, then 750 at week 9 or 10. Added dbols a few weeks ago to finish up with.

Every week I get - Damn you have gotten big Hell!! and.... It looks like your shoulders have exploded Hell!!

Of course I wasn't at my genetic potential when I started or I wouldn't have blown up the way I have but damn I sure have loved every minute of it!
I am happy with my progress overall and try not to compare myself to the huge motherfuckers up at the gym cause they just dwarf me.

Now Im just gonna keep hitting it hard and then eventually start lowering my calories slowly and get rid of the extra fat I picked up with the muscle and get as ripped as possible for Mexico in June!

Train Big, Eat Big, Get Big

Hell~

You gained 45lbs in 12 or 13 weeks. Wow. That is amazing. How is your body fat?

This always amazes me not to be mean but I see it a lot....315 for a set of 5 in the bench is respectable amount. 315x5 in the dead lift or squats is something we did in early high school (10th grade?) at about 150 to 175lbs.

Originally Posted by all4show

You gained 45lbs in 12 or 13 weeks. Wow. That is amazing. How is your body fat?

This alsways amazes me not to be mean but I see it a lot....315 for a set of 5 in the bench is respectable amount. 315x5 in the dead lift or squats is something we did in early high school (10th grade?) at about 150 to 175lbs.

Well these last 10-15lbs came on fast with the dbol these last few weeks. Im sure those will drop fast. I would guess my bf is around 16% but I really have no clue.

Yea, I just started deadlifting at the beginning of this cycle. That was something I never learned back in high school and just never started it. Its a work in progress.

Originally Posted by Hell

Well these last 10-15lbs came on fast with the dbol these last few weeks. Im sure those will drop fast. I would guess my bf is around 16% but I really have no clue.

Yea, I just started deadlifting at the beginning of this cycle. That was something I never learned back in high school and just never started it. Its a work in progress.

Does anyone not recognize you anymore? That is dramatic.

I get questioned and commented on almost daily. 3 months before I started my cycle I was at 210lb and soft from sitting in the office all day and barely lifting at home. On a 2000 calorie diet and lifting/cardio 5 days a week I got down to 185. Thats when I started my cycle and blew up. Most of the comments I hear are about my shoulders getting big, wider back and my chest.

I took my first cruise pin of of 125mg of test today. I havent had any dbol in 2 days and i think I can already tell some of the water weight from the dbol leaving me.