I am picking up 3 bottles of tren. I have never taken it before, i was thinking about starting slow and starting out with half cc 3 days a week. Then starting with a normal routine. I have heard of some of the side effects, but how bad do they really get??
we need more info....what are you running it with? what kind of tren? whats you ai and pct, what are your goals for this cycle, what are your stats.......we need more info to give you better advice.
I have to find out for sure exactly what kind it is. I know it is trenbolone and he said that for my build and what i want it is probably going to work the best. I am 5'10", 220 but dropping still, dont know the body fat, but my goals are to try to get below 200 but stay solid and get more cut. He can get other things like masteron or winny. Would one of those be better. I am not really trying to stack it with anything, or should i?? This is my first time really going anabolic, so i am still learning everything, and trying to sponge it up.
I have to find out for sure exactly what kind it is. I know it is trenbolone and he said that for my build and what i want it is probably going to work the best. I am 5'10", 220 but dropping still, dont know the body fat, but my goals are to try to get below 200 but stay solid and get more cut. He can get other things like masteron or winny. Would one of those be better. I am not really trying to stack it with anything, or should i?? This is my first time really going anabolic, so i am still learning everything, and trying to sponge it up.
you should run tren w/ short ester test like testosterone propionate and the type of tren is really important. If its your first time use a short ester tren like trenbolone acetate that way if side are bad it wont be in your system for too long, unlike a long ester tren like Trenbolone Enanthate where you would be dealing with the side for 1-2 weeks. Start at low dose 40mg ED, ED shots will keep your plasma levels stable wich will give you better chance of hopefully not experiencing any neg sides. Also run a AI(arim; aromasin) and anti-progestin(Prami; caber)
- If this is your first cycle I would strongly advise against using tren...
This sounds like your 1st cycle. Tren on your first cycle is a no no in my opinion. Go with sum test-e or if u want more bang for your buck try and get some sustanon at 500mg a week. Half CC every 4 days. It kicks in faster bro. Grab that by itsell and kick start it with some beastdrol for your 1st 6 weeks at 20mg a day and bump to 30mg if ur ok with the sides. The beastdrol will get u lean hard and strong as hell. Throw in sum arimidex at .5 ED. Good luck man
Thanks i appreciate the help, I gotta ask to see what he can actually get or has. I know for a fact he has tren, mast and winny. but i havent really asked if he had others, thats just what he recomended to me for my strength build and body type. but i also am trying to not annhialate the sex drive, if anything i would like to make it better and i heard that tren does that. I havent really read up on the test pro or the beastdrol, but i know i am trying to stay away from the estrogen enhancers to stay away from the bloated look.
Thanks i appreciate the help, I gotta ask to see what he can actually get or has. I know for a fact he has tren, mast and winny. but i havent really asked if he had others, thats just what he recomended to me for my strength build and body type. but i also am trying to not annhialate the sex drive, if anything i would like to make it better and i heard that tren does that. I havent really read up on the test pro or the beastdrol, but i know i am trying to stay away from the estrogen enhancers to stay away from the bloated look.
- testosterone should be the base of all your cycles, I would def. not run tren by its self!!!
- bro ask your guy if he has some testosterone enanthate or testosterone cypionate and run it at 500mg a week(thats 2 shots a week at 250mg a shot Mon and Thurs) run this for 10-12 wks with an AI during cycle and SERM for PCT and think about running HCG on cycle..
- If you dont know what AI, SERM, PCT, HCG means then you havent done enough research and should not be doing AAS
If you are going to run Tren, you need to run testosterone. Testosterone will increase your sex drive, which is what you want. Ask your buddy if he has test first.
will test still give me the cutting effect that i want?? I dont really want to start out with stacking if i could avoid it. At least until i get use to everything, i have never really stuck myself.
You've never "stuck yourself" so tren should be out of the question because it needs to be injected every day if it's acetate but enanthate every 4 days is fine. For the cutting effect it's all about DIET and CARDIO. Test-e+an AI is all you need to help lean out after diet and the rest are in check. Test only first bro. The test will keep u strong energized and help keep your muscle as u diet hardcore. The AI will keep u lean and dry and mainly stop gyno in it's tracks.45 min cardio 6 days a week. It's hard bro that's why everyone isn't ripped u know. Peace
will test still give me the cutting effect that i want?? I dont really want to start out with stacking if i could avoid it. At least until i get use to everything, i have never really stuck myself.
Look... At this point you have ZERO business using any steroid at all. You have done no research at all. Tren is the last compound you should be considering. Look up the 'First Cycle' stickies. And then READ a bunch more, Bro... Trust me. If you have the Tren already... Save it for a while, or trade it for Test.
Cutting is more about diet & training than anything. You should be able to cut just fine with Test.
So... Keep reading.
All posts are not for entertainment. Use the GEARS I tell you to and how I tell you to use them or I'll E-Beat you to death...
I have done a lot of reading and asking for awhile now. I am just making sure that i am going the right direction and thats why i am here asking these questions to make sure that i am making the right choice. I dont want to spend the money on something that will hurt me more than help me. I havent gotten it yet. The guy i am getting it from has been doing it for years now and is pretty knowledgeable with this stuff. But as you can see from this thread that i have gotten a lot of mixed answers from different people all over.
I wouldn't recommend it either for a first cycle. If the guy you're buying it from really is experienced, he wouldn't be recommending it. Sounds like he may be just trying to make some $ to me. .02
Yeah i had my second thoughts when he recomended it and i started readong more on it and what other people were experiencing, He can get pretty much whatever i want, thats why i asked if there was anything else that i could take to have the same effect with better side effect results.
I have done a lot of reading and asking for awhile now. I am just making sure that i am going the right direction and thats why i am here asking these questions to make sure that i am making the right choice. I dont want to spend the money on something that will hurt me more than help me. I havent gotten it yet. The guy i am getting it from has been doing it for years now and is pretty knowledgeable with this stuff. But as you can see from this thread that i have gotten a lot of mixed answers from different people all over.
If your guy is so knowledgeable he wouldn't be telling to run tren by itself and run tren as a first cycle. Your making the right choice asking questions on this forum everyone will give you the best advice. When you say you have gotten alot of mixed answers what do you mean? Everyone here who has replied has given you the same advice??
- dont run tren first cycle
- test only first cycle
- do more reseach
I would stop listening to your guy! dont mean to sound like a dick just trying to help
I'm not bothering reading everyone else's responses.
Since you've already gotten it, you are going to use it no matter what anyone says. Tren is hands down the most potent steroid available.
First you need to know if its tren A or Tren E. Hopefully tren Acetate.
Tren Acetate is ED injection, some will say EOD. I felt ed injections worked better for me.
You need to get some test, doesn't matter what ester but you need test. I've rean tren @ 700mg a week by its self. Great results but it really messes with your head and for most people it would probably give some erectile dysfunction.
for you, 50mg ED would be plenty for a first cycle. inside of 6 weeks you will see some amazing results if you train consistent and heavy. I would run it 10 weeks.
Does your tren not have a label ? it should be on there somewhere the concentration. If it doesn't have a label then it's homebrew and the guy you bought it from probably has no idea what the actual dose is. The kits are worthless for conversions.
Again, you need to get test. use a sponsor on here. they are g2g. Some are better than others IMO, a lot better.
As far as doing business with this guy again, I wouldn't. If he was half as intelligent as he would like you to think then he would know how important it is to tell you what ester you have. He is out to make a quick buck and I don't even want to know what you payed for it. Use the sponsors here. It's safe and you will have no worries.
For the future, make your own tren. I don't care what anyone says. Make it yourself with pellets and you know exactly what you have. You know exactly what dose and you know it's sterile and its hella cheaper. PM if you think you would be interested in this.
GET TESTOSTERONE.
enough for at least 10 weeks at 500mg EW
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