Thread: Almost a week on DMZ

What are you planning on using for PCT? What AIs are you taking? Im curious cuz im thinking about gettin on some here soon

Originally Posted by MrRockstar

And I cant feel any difference really, other then that my appetite is gone and I get irritable a little more often, could be placebo effect though. should I up the dosage from 30 mg's to 40? Oh and my sex drive is down.

Is that a prohormone?? If so, when i took ph years ago, it did the same thing the first week. I was soooo sluggish. Someone once told me it had to do with your natural hormones shutting down and the substitutes taking over. Thats what i was told anyways....

If thats what the label suggested, then i would ride that out another week. If you haven't seen any difference by the end of week 2, then its time to change something

I'm new to this, right now I take Dmz, milk thistle, cranberry,and saw palmetto. Milk thistle for liver, cranberry for organ support, and saw plametto for prostate. I drink 3/4 to a gallon of water everyday. I'm also taking creatine, mass xxx and jack3d... when i get off I plan on continuing the milk thistle,creatine, xxx and adding test booster. formadrol or cel pct maybe.

Originally Posted by brandon123

Is that a prohormone?? If so, when i took ph years ago, it did the same thing the first week. I was soooo sluggish. Someone once told me it had to do with your natural hormones shutting down and the substitutes taking over. Thats what i was told anyways....

Thanks,yea its a prohormone thats supposed to be near pharmaceutical grade juice. maybe thats it we'll see.

sounds like a simple PCT was this recommended to you from someone on this site?

It was advice given to someone else here, I just came across it while looking for info on cycle's.

I started noticing changes two weeks in and it continued through four weeks. My sex drive died as well. Def. not placebo. I put on 20lbs in four weeks. Of course it was my first cycle too..

Originally Posted by Life

I started noticing changes two weeks in and it continued through four weeks. My sex drive died as well. Def. not placebo. I put on 20lbs in four weeks. Of course it was my first cycle too..

what dosage?

btw here is Super-DMZ Rx

How long are you planning on taking it for?

Originally Posted by MrRockstar

And I cant feel any difference really, other then that my appetite is gone and I get irritable a little more often, could be placebo effect though. should I up the dosage from 30 mg's to 40? Oh and my sex drive is down.

It is pretty early to see changes. Hang in there and make sure you eat properly.

Originally Posted by Prince

what dosage?

btw here is Super-DMZ Rx

Thank you for the link. I was just assuming it was a PH. Glad i was right.

Originally Posted by Life

I started noticing changes two weeks in and it continued through four weeks. My sex drive died as well. Def. not placebo. I put on 20lbs in four weeks. Of course it was my first cycle too..

20 pounds is Amazing results. How much did you keep of the 20?

I dont know too much about DMZ but am pretty well versed in Sdrol which is in the DMZ. DMZ is supposed to be a slightly altered Sdrol. I dont remember what they changed but is supposed to yield less sides.

Sdrol is a very potent anabolic steroid. It does not aromatize and requires no AI It is very lean dry gains. It kicks in fairly quick usually after 1 week. You should not feel anything before that. Most report seeing it kick in just into or halfway through week two. If you are feeling lethargic you need to up your carbs. Sdrol thrives on carbs. It pushes the glycogen into the muscle and make you very vascular. It is very liver toxic and most report back and calf pumps as well as high BP and wacked out lipids. I would highly suggest about 4g of Taurine a dayn for the pumps, Hawthorne for the BP and policosanol for lipids. If that doesnt help with BP and lipds I have plenty of other suggestions that you can add to that. Watch the headaches and red meat.

For PCT I would not suggest an over the counter. I would suggest Clomid at 100/50/50/25 at the least. Some might suggest a natty t-booster or 6-oxo at week 2-5 of PCT and something like Lean Xtreme, albuterol, clen or even Ephedrine HCL for cortisol control at week 3.

Be careful, Sdrol can shut you down and the gains are so fast they are hard to keep. Im not sure the difference with DMZ but I would highly suggest the same protocol and treat it like Sdrol.

Originally Posted by brandon123

Thank you for the link. I was just assuming it was a PH. Glad i was right.

Super-DMZ rx is actually a steroid.

Originally Posted by cavtrooper96

For PCT I would not suggest an over the counter. I would suggest Clomid at 100/50/50/25 at the least.

I know someone who took Clomid at 70/70/35/35 and they're hoping that's enough.



Plus to the OP: You're considering upping to 40mg per day? I gained ten pounds in four weeks on just 10mg.

Wishing you success with this supplement.

Originally Posted by brandon123

20 pounds is Amazing results. How much did you keep of the 20?

All of it. And continued to increase most of my lifts during PCT.

I only took 20mg a day Prince.

Originally Posted by Curt James

I know someone who took Clomid at 70/70/35/35 and they're hoping that's enough.

Thats what my PCT was, along for formadrol (Spelling..). I took 140 the first two days though.

bumping to 40mgs of dmz is unnecessary unless youre over 200 lbs (210+). under 200 and 10-30mgs should be fine.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Super-DMZ rx is actually a steroid.

All ph's are designer steroids. Its means they are chemical make up is just a hair off of the real deal. Thats how they get passed through FDA (temporarily). But it gets metabolized into a hormone in your liver. The Processing of these in the liver is very harsh. thats why its highly reccomended to take a cleanser.

Originally Posted by brandon123

All ph's are designer steroids. Its means they are chemical make up is just a hair off of the real deal. Thats how they get passed through FDA (temporarily). But it gets metabolized into a hormone in your liver. The Processing of these in the liver is very harsh. thats why its highly reccomended to take a cleanser.

Dimethazine is not a PH. It is an active steroid that needs no conversion. SuperDMZ rx is Dimethazine. Dimethazine has been around for over 50 years.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Dimethazine is not a PH. It is an active steroid that needs no conversion. SuperDMZ rx is Dimethazine. Dimethazine has been around for over 50 years.

Super-DMZ Rx™ Pro-Hormone (Superdrol Dymethazine)
Then why is it advertized as a PH

couldnt go to the gym for 3 days because my car was broken down and I was dealing with that. hit the Gym today for chest and and BAM! Its kicking in good. (knock on wood)

Well I ordered my DMZ and am excited to get that underway. Now if only I can get some fucking clomid ill be gtg

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Dimethazine is not a PH. It is an active steroid that needs no conversion. SuperDMZ rx is Dimethazine. Dimethazine has been around for over 50 years.

so after a little research, you are right. Dimethazine is in fact a steroid. No questions about it. But Dymethazine is a clone. Does this make it uneffective?? Not at all. seems to have great reviews. But thats what a prohormone is. it is when you take the real chemical and tweak it just a little so it is no longer the exact same substance. aka designer steroid

17beta-hydroxy 2alpha, 17 alpha-dimethyl 5alpha, androstan3-on azine
17beta-hydroxy 2alpha,17alpha-dimethyl 5alpha-androstan 3-one azine

Here are the two chemicals in question. Notice the slight variation .

Originally Posted by brandon123

so after a little research, you are right. Dimethazine is in fact a steroid. No questions about it. But Dymethazine is a clone. Does this make it uneffective?? Not at all. seems to have great reviews. But thats what a prohormone is. it is when you take the real chemical and tweak it just a little so it is no longer the exact same substance. aka designer steroid

17beta-hydroxy 2alpha, 17 alpha-dimethyl 5alpha, androstan3-on azine
17beta-hydroxy 2alpha,17alpha-dimethyl 5alpha-androstan 3-one azine

Here are the two chemicals in question. Notice the slight variation .

Not Dymethazine.
Dymethazine is a brand name. Dimethazine is the steroid. SuperDMZ rx may be marketed in a way to fool the FDA but it is clearly Dimethazine an active steroid that requires no conversion.

Originally Posted by brandon123

so after a little research, you are right. Dimethazine is in fact a steroid. No questions about it. But Dymethazine is a clone. Does this make it uneffective?? Not at all. seems to have great reviews. But thats what a prohormone is. it is when you take the real chemical and tweak it just a little so it is no longer the exact same substance. aka designer steroid

17beta-hydroxy 2alpha, 17 alpha-dimethyl 5alpha, androstan3-on azine
17beta-hydroxy 2alpha,17alpha-dimethyl 5alpha-androstan 3-one azine

Here are the two chemicals in question. Notice the slight variation .

yes and no, a prohormone technically has to be converted into an active steroid, 1-Andro Rx is a true PH, Super-DMZ Rx is not.

Roxilon is the commercial name given to the steroid compound Dimethazine, also known as mebolazine. This potent oral anabolic steroid was derived from dihydrotestosterone and has a very unique structure.

The dimethazine molecule is made from two methyldrostanolone molecules, bonded together with an azine bridge. When administered, the body chemically breaks this bond so that the drug provides free methyldrostalone, the compound used in Superdrol.

Dimethazine was first described in 1962 and developed further into a medicine by Ormonoterapia Richter in Italy. The firm sold the steroid as Roxilon throughout Italy and as Dostalon in Mexico. It has also been sold under licence by Lepetit.

When sold, dimethazine was evaluated to cure and treat several conditions ranging from promotion of growth in underweight children and adolescents, the treatment of osteoporosis and as a general anabolic in conditions necessitating the use of such an agent.

The steroid has since been added to the list of long and forgotten anabolic preparations. The steroid saw limited success in the medical field and was discontinued by the manufacturer some years ago which marked the end of dimethazine as it was once known.

When used by athletes, this drug was highly favoured for it’s ability to promote solid gains in lean muscle tissue without excess water retention and fat gain. The results and behaviour of this steroid compares vary similarly with drostanolone propionate (Matheron), although as an oral c-17alpha alkylated steroid it presents considerably more toxicity.

Under the administration of dimethazine, estrogen related side effects should not be a concern. dimethazine is not aromatised by the body and anti estrogens will not be necessary. Due to the inability to convert to estrogen, even sensitive intervals should not suffer side effects like gynecomastia and a lean ripped look will be produced.

Androgenic side effects are always likely to present themselves, even with weak anabolic steroids. Side effects relating to the increase of androgens can range from acne and oily skin, to hair loss. Women are warned off using anabolic steroids in doses required to promote muscle growth as typical side effects for women can be, deepening of the voice, facial and body hair growth along with menstrual irregularities.

Due to dimethazine being part of the c17-alpha alkylated family, liver toxicity is likely and higher doses can result in life threatening conditions. It is advisable to visit a physician periodically throughout administration to spot potential problems early.