cutting cycle?

**suprfast** · 11-09-2010, 02:01 AM

I am seeing on sponsors sites that they have stacks for cutting. I was under the impression that people should already be lean when starting a cycle(10% for a bulk). Now is the cutting stack made for people looking to go well below 10% or am I missing something.

Sorry guys, lots of questions, lots of reading to still do.

**pyes** · 11-09-2010, 06:21 AM

in essence, YES, pro bodybuilders like to get into the 4 or 5 % BF range.

**XYZ** · 11-09-2010, 08:09 AM

Starting a bulk or a cut at 10% is ideal. Do you have to start there? No. It just makes things a lot easier. If you've ever had to diet down from 15%+ you know that it takes a lot longer than starting from 10%. Once you start cutting at 10% you can get pretty lean rather quickly, assuming diet and training are in order.

I don't know about you but I don't like to diet for long periods of time. I like food and lots of it, calorie restrictions suck.

**ROID** · 11-09-2010, 08:44 AM

is there really such a thing as a "cutting" steroid ?

**XYZ** · 11-09-2010, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by ROID

is there really such a thing as a "cutting" steroid ?

Tren.

**suprfast** · 11-09-2010, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by CT

Starting a bulk or a cut at 10% is ideal. Do you have to start there? No. It just makes things a lot easier. If you've ever had to diet down from 15%+ you know that it takes a lot longer than starting from 10%. Once you start cutting at 10% you can get pretty lean rather quickly, assuming diet and training are in order.

I don't know about you but I don't like to diet for long periods of time. I like food and lots of it, calorie restrictions suck.

I agree with the calorie part.

To not change subject too far since I made the thread specific about cutting, how to power lifters take steroids when it seems to be the consensus to be under 15% bf. Id assume most of them are not.

**Marat** · 11-09-2010, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by suprfast

I agree with the calorie part.

To not change subject too far since I made the thread specific about cutting, how to power lifters take steroids when it seems to be the consensus to be under 15% bf. Id assume most of them are not.

They accept the risks/side effects.

**TwisT** · 11-09-2010, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by CT

Tren.

I kindly disagree

**underscore** · 11-09-2010, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by TimGreenly

I kindly disagree

Explain

**ROID** · 11-09-2010, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by CT

Tren.

agreed there.

I've just never agreed that EQ, winstrol and the others really done anything unless you already have a lower bf%.

**XYZ** · 11-09-2010, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by TimGreenly

I kindly disagree

That's cool, but what, if anything would you label as a "cutting" AAS?

**MDR** · 11-09-2010, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by suprfast

I agree with the calorie part.

To not change subject too far since I made the thread specific about cutting, how to power lifters take steroids when it seems to be the consensus to be under 15% bf. Id assume most of them are not.

Many powerlifters in the lower weight classes are actually quite lean. You see the higher bodyfat percentages mostly in the highest weight groups. We are not concerned with how the body looks like bodybuilders, but if you are competing against other powerlifters at, say, 200lbs, it makes sense to have as much muscle as possible and not a lot of extra fat.

**MDR** · 11-09-2010, 11:21 AM

I always thought that Tren is the ultimate cutting AAS.

G3 · 11-09-2010, 12:25 PM

What about Primobolan?

**WFC2010** · 11-09-2010, 12:57 PM

best cut stuff is
masteron
trenbolone
winstrol
testosterone
+hgh
and t3 and t4---some clen

**suprfast** · 11-09-2010, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by MDR

Many powerlifters in the lower weight classes are actually quite lean. You see the higher bodyfat percentages mostly in the highest weight groups. We are not concerned with how the body looks like bodybuilders, but if you are competing against other powerlifters at, say, 200lbs, it makes sense to have as much muscle as possible and not a lot of extra fat.

Thanks. I appreciate the help in my research. Planning my first cycle, but I can't help but to read everything and anything. Trying to make a qualitative assessment from a quantitative analysis.

**chronicelite** · 11-09-2010, 01:27 PM

The best cutting cycle I have ever done was Test P (ED), Tren Ace (ED) and Anavar (ED).
Got me shredded

**TwisT** · 11-09-2010, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by CT

That's cool, but what, if anything would you label as a "cutting" AAS?

Defining an AAS as "cutting" would be really tough. If we are talking merely about fat loss, I would point more in the direction of fat burners such as Clen or DNP. If I had to put a "cutting" label on a roid, it would be Winstrol.

-TG

**XYZ** · 11-10-2010, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by TimGreenly

Defining an AAS as "cutting" would be really tough. If we are talking merely about fat loss, I would point more in the direction of fat burners such as Clen or DNP. If I had to put a "cutting" label on a roid, it would be Winstrol.

-TG

I agree about DNP. NOTHING else even comes close.

As far a a pure recomposition AAS I personally think tren is hands down by far and away the most dramatic.

Body fat needs to be low enough for winstrol to really shine, but if it is yes, it's right up there.

**Simply_Michael** · 11-10-2010, 09:19 AM

Best way to get from 15 to 10 percent?

**XYZ** · 11-10-2010, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Supa_Spence

Best way to get from 15 to 10 percent?

What are you doing now for diet and training?

**Simply_Michael** · 11-10-2010, 09:39 AM

Too funny I didn't think you would see I sent pm
To answer your question 5'7 170 at least 180 to 200 grams of protein /carBS 150 or less /fats not sure but 3 shots of flaxseed oil training is baby got back by built

Originally Posted by CT

What are you doing now for diet and training?

**XYZ** · 11-10-2010, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Supa_Spence

Too funny I didn't think you would see I sent pm
To answer your question 5'7 170 at least 180 to 200 grams of protein /carBS 150 or less /fats not sure but 3 shots of flaxseed oil training is baby got back by built

Flaxseed oil is a real poor choice in my opinion. It contains none of the EPA & DHA your body needs.

You need to lay it out better than what you have here. I need to know exact meals as well as a training schedule.

What you have listed doesn't take a lot of things into consideration such as PWO meals, what type of carbs, fats or proteins.

**Simply_Michael** · 11-10-2010, 01:07 PM

CT took it to pm so not to hi Jack

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