Thread: My cycle...

I see multiple problems but I will let some of the vets beat it up.

Originally Posted by cavtrooper96

I see multiple problems but I will let some of the vets beat it up.

Ugh....I'm not going to pick on everything, I'll mention a point or two.

•Don't use nolva, use an AI along side your cycle
•Run the HCG along side your cycle, don't wait for PCT.

The other bros will correct the rest as you have many more errors, you should post your stats....the only reason why I don't tell ya to go do some more homework is because you are a fellow Greek....and most of my Greek friends simply don't get it because they don't research enough. Enai ola lathos!!


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i don't like pyramiding doses...pick a weekly dose and run it straight thru with your test and eq.......600-800mg eq and 500-600mg test per week should be plenty

Originally Posted by VictorZ06

Ugh....I'm not going to pick on everything, I'll mention a point or two.

•Don't use nolva, use an AI along side your cycle
•Run the HCG along side your cycle, don't wait for PCT.

The other bros will correct the rest as you have many more errors, you should post your stats....the only reason why I don't tell ya to go do some more homework is because you are a fellow Greek....and most of my Greek friends simply don't get it because they don't research enough. Enai ola lathos!!


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greetings from greece bro! "giati einai ola la8os?"
is it better to take HCG every second week?
is it better to take Arimidex insted nolvadex and proviron?

stats
height 176cm
weight 88kg
age 24

Originally Posted by irish_2003

i don't like pyramiding doses...pick a weekly dose and run it straight thru with your test and eq.......600-800mg eq and 500-600mg test per week should be plenty

can someone explain to me the mistakes? why is better to use stable doses?



thx for the replies.

Enia ola lathos! I told you two reasons and there are any more...but to answer your specifics, you want to take 500iu 2X a week along side your cycle. Not during PCT....avoid testicular atrophy before it sets in.

Drop the nolva all together.....use it in emergency cases only. Run the proviron along side your cycle at 50mg ED. You want to take arimidex at around .5mg EOD or ED....some take 1mg a day. Depends and varies from individual to individual and how strong your cycle is....you want to take just enough.

You don't want to pyramid your test dose, doing so will make your blood plasma levels flux. You don't want that. You want to take 500mg of testoviron (test e 250mg) for a a good 12-14 weeks for a good first cycle. Apo pou stin elada esai? And if you decide on dbol, I would do so at 20-30mg a week for a good 5-6 weeks....I still suggest test only cycles for first timers though.

Kali tihi felé!

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^^^^^^^X2 cant argue with that!!!

this is my third cycle. last year my dbol dose was 7x5mg per day not per weak. why is better to have stable dose instead of pyramid? i have read in the net many cycles with pyramid and with stable dose.

is it ok 2ml test (600mg) and 2-3ml(400-600mg) bold per week?

so...

during the cycle
500iu HCG twice a week
25mg proviron twice a day
1mg Arimidex EOD

and for PCT?


@VictorZ06
from athens. ase ta pragmata edw einai xalia, zwh, doulies, farmaka :P

I think it is enough with 0.5mg Arimidex EOD.

Originally Posted by Qlim4X

this is my third cycle. last year my dbol dose was 7x5mg per day not per weak. why is better to have stable dose instead of pyramid? i have read in the net many cycles with pyramid and with stable dose.

is it ok 2ml test (600mg) and 2-3ml(400-600mg) bold per week?

so...

during the cycle
500iu HCG twice a week
25mg proviron twice a day
1mg Arimidex EOD

and for PCT?


@VictorZ06
from athens. ase ta pragmata edw einai xalia, zwh, doulies, farmaka :P

I only react well to EQ in high doses. Kai ego, Athina...sto Kavouri konta stin Vouliagmeni. Esi?

Anyway, PCT should start a few weeks after your cycle, continue to take the AI until PCT is over. Don't run the HCG during PCT. PCT should consist of only clomid. Day 1&2 200mg, next 4 weeks....100/100/75/50.

If you insist on the dbol, 20-30mg ED for 5-6 weeks. EQ is best run for long periods of time...like 16 weeks or so. Not ideal for a first real cycle. You have to do some more studying my friend. 1mg of adex may be too much....and you want to take the least amount possible. Kali tihi bro!


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txh for the info guys!

so

i start my cycle with 300mg pendadex and 200mg equidex. second week 450mg/400mg third week 600mg/600mg and i will continue with 600mg/800mg for 6 weeks i will keep my doses stable and 4 more weeks to drop my doses.

arimidex 0.5 eod and 400mg silimarin ed and nolva in hand


i start see gains (2.5 weeks) in my body, good pumps and hardness. but energy and power still the same

Originally Posted by Qlim4X

txh for the info guys!

so

i start my cycle with 300mg pendadex and 200mg equidex. second week 450mg/400mg third week 600mg/600mg and i will continue with 600mg/800mg for 6 weeks i will keep my doses stable and 4 more weeks to drop my doses.

arimidex 0.5 eod and 400mg silimarin ed and nolva in hand


i start see gains (2.5 weeks) in my body, good pumps and hardness. but energy and power still the same

Then katalaves tipota apo afta pou sou epa. Typical Greek vlahos. You are trying to reinvent the wheel. Told you not to pyramid those doses that way vre malaka. I also told you that EQ should be run for longer periods of time. The way you set your cycle up is pathetic. Do some more research vre gamouto!


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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

Then katalaves tipota apo afta pou sou epa. Typical Greek vlahos. You are trying to reinvent the wheel. Told you not to pyramid those doses that way vre malaka. I also told you that EQ should be run for longer periods of time. The way you set your cycle up is pathetic. Do some more research vre gamouto!


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GREEK for Victor
xmmmmm vlaxos den eimai diavazo poli alla oi apopsis dihstade gia tous 2 diaforetikous kiklous. episis 8elw na kanw off 1 mina gia na 3anabw 3 mines gramosi. exeis na mou doseis kana link me kiklous na dw giati protineis sta8eres doseis?


ENGLISH
they are all messed up in my head. the cycle will be stable around 6-8 weeks. the pyramid is just 6 weeks 3 at the start and 3 at the end.

i ask a lot of people and they are 50/50 stable vs pyramid cycle. any Research for comparison of cycles?

Then pas kala. I'm trying to help you out here brother, and I'm going a little bit out of my way than normal to help a fellow Greek. I've explained to you above how you should go about starting your cycle. You did not like my advice, even though others concur with me here. I've been playing this game for close to a dozen years my friend. AAS use is an evolving science where we learn and discover new and different methods, compounds, etc. all the time. The outline I made for you has been tried and proven my many of us here....it's a basic starters cycle. Do it right, and you could gain a solid 20 lbs.

I don't know who you have been talking to, but I find it very hard to believe that half the people you spoke to are telling you to pyramid your doses and to run the cycle the way you laid it out. That's bullshit my friend....unless you talking to a bunch of backwards gym rats in Aigaleo or some other clueless poli.

I'm going to leave it to my fellow brothers here to back up my explanations to you. I'm guessing you have not read the stickies posted on the top of the forum yet. Read them.


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Pyramiding is old school thought. The smart ones know better now that we have science to disprove the hypothesis of why pyramiding isnt better.

Equipoise should never be pyramided, i have done it with some tests...but way better results if you have the money or if you dont wait until you do so that you can purchase enough for a whole cycle without having to pyramid anything. EQ should be ran at a stable dose of around 500-800mg EW for ATLEAST 16 weeks, if not you are just wasting your cash. EQ takes a while to kick in and the gains are great if your run it for long enough and they are good quality gains if you have the rest of your cycle right...PCT also means a lot. Hope this helps some, first cycle should always be one product and is test of some sort...i advise Test E or Test C and if you are hard headed you can run some dbol for the first 5-6 weeks at 20-30mg thats all you need for your first cycle, dont go all crazy!!!

Here I am trying to help your silly ass and you take rep points away from me? Ande vre gamisou vre hondro malaka. Do what you want, waste your time and money. I'm not surprised with your mentality....true Greek attitude. You must be from the highest horio in Greece. Enjoy your cycle.

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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

Here I am trying to help your silly ass and you take rep points away from me? Ande vre gamisou vre hondro malaka. Do what you want, waste your time and money. I'm not surprised with your mentality....true Greek attitude. You must be from the highest horio in Greece. Enjoy your cycle.

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i didn t take rep points i quote your message m8. wake up.

now i will continue my cycle with 600/600 and god be with me.

im not a pro BB i do it because i like my body to be hard and big.

so victor your way is not the right to swear in our language. be more civilian.

Originally Posted by Qlim4X

i didn t take rep points i quote your message m8. wake up.

now i will continue my cycle with 600/600 and god be with me.

im not a pro BB i do it because i like my body to be hard and big.

so victor your way is not the right to swear in our language. be more civilian.

Negged for vet disrespect. If you want I'd be glad to teach you how we swear in Norwegian. Probably not civilized either. Why even ask questions if you don't want help?

Originally Posted by Qlim4X

so victor your way is not the right to swear in our language. be more civilian.

Oh cmon...I may have used some tough language with you, but that's because you are being really stubborn about this. You come here seeking advice, and when it's given to you, you chose to ignore it. So what do you want from us? We all ready told you your cycle is crap. Ya know, sometimes it takes more than one blow with a hammer to get the nail in....it's just not working with you for some reason.

And FYI, I am also not a pro....doesn't mean I'm going to start running a cockeyed cycle. Good luck.


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Originally Posted by MDR

Negged for vet disrespect. If you want I'd be glad to teach you how we swear in Norwegian. Probably not civilized either. Why even ask questions if you don't want help?

My Norwegian isn't all that bad, "din faens rompeslikker, pikk i helvete!!" lol I love the way the Norwegian and Swedish gals speak, damn sexy!



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ok


i ll stable my dose and continue for 12 weeks. because i want 1 month off to go in cycle phase.

i ll continue arimidex 0.5 EOD. any suggestion how much HCG and when?

[QUOTE=VictorZ06;2110318]My Norwegian isn't all that bad, "din faens rompeslikker, pikk i helvete!!" lol I love the way the Norwegian and Swedish gals speak, damn sexy!

Lot of 'em look pretty hot, too.

Originally Posted by Qlim4X

ok


i ll stable my dose and continue for 12 weeks. because i want 1 month off to go in cycle phase.

i ll continue arimidex 0.5 EOD. any suggestion how much HCG and when?

I'm not sure what you mean by wanting one month off to go into cycle phase. Please elaborate.

In any case, you can start HCG at week 2 until the end of your cycle. Do not use HCG during PCT, stop it before you begin it. I would suggest 500iu 2X a week (Mon & Thurs). Some guys use 250iu 2X a week and do fine....I prefer 500iu 2X a week.

When you go to the pharmacy, ask for Pregnyl in 5000iu amps....solution is included. It should be chilled in a small box when they give it to you...and you will also need slin pins. I suggest 1/2cc syringe with a 1/2 inch pin, it will be easier to dose.



MDR, I'm a HUGE Scandinavian fan!!



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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

I'm not sure what you mean by wanting one month off to go into cycle phase. Please elaborate.

In any case, you can start HCG at week 2 until the end of your cycle. Do not use HCG during PCT, stop it before you begin it. I would suggest 500iu 2X a week (Mon & Thurs). Some guys use 250iu 2X a week and do fine....I prefer 500iu 2X a week.

When you go to the pharmacy, ask for Pregnyl in 5000iu amps....solution is included. It should be chilled in a small box when they give it to you...and you will also need slin pins. I suggest 1/2cc syringe with a 1/2 inch pin, it will be easier to dose.


MDR, I'm a HUGE Scandinavian fan!!



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i start my 12week cycle at november. so it will end at january with out PCT. PCT ends at february. one month off to rest my body and then i will start at march my 12week cutting cycle. is it ok victor? or better not to stop the cycle and continue until may?


The HCG i will inject it sub right? i have 3amps 5000iu from last year

Originally Posted by Qlim4X

one month off to rest my body

How did you come to deciding that four weeks is a sufficient "off" period? Why not two weeks? Why not 16 weeks?

hello

Originally Posted by Marat

How did you come to deciding that four weeks is a sufficient "off" period? Why not two weeks? Why not 16 weeks?

i didn t decided. i just make my schedule to be ready in the may for the stage (just for experience) if i be happy with my body...

Hopefully you've taken into account the potential unfavorable consequences associated with being on cycle or PCT for 32 weeks in a 36 week span.