Reply With QuoteI think the 25 gauge pins are the problem. 23 would probably work better. I even use 22 on occasion, but the 23 1 1/2 are really the standard for that area of the body. Even then you have to be patient and draw slowly.
Syringe problem-One pin with multiple oils
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11-17-2010, 10:49 AM #1Registered User
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Syringe problem-One pin with multiple oils
I had a difficult time last cycle drawing in my Test E when I ran it clean. I'd have to repeatedly and slowly draw all the way to 3ml then push out air until I got a bubble-free 2ml in the syringe. Now I've added EQ! I just started last Sunday and went ahead and did 2 sticks (1ml of each) because of the drawing hassle. I always fill the vial with air to increase internal pressure, but it takes forever to draw the juice out. Granted, I went with 25ga pins and I know this is small for oil like E and EQ. Just started this cycle and I'm sticking twice/week. I haven't tried setting the vials in warm water yet to help lower the viscosity...my next step I guess.
I'd like to draw my E then the EQ and do just one stick rotating between ass checks twice/week.
Any one ever encountered this issue? Any suggestions?
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Bro test E is a thick oil. I use 20g pins to draw, then 23 to slam. Get bigger pins. I couldnt imagine pushing 3ml of juice through a 25g in my glute. That would take forever and cause more scarring with you moving it around in there.
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I warm up my vials under hot tap water and have no problems with oils and 25g needles but I only use 1ml injections. years ago I did the two compounds in one needle and found it to be more of a hassel than it's worth, JMO.
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20 to pull, 22/23/25 to push, works great. 18g takes chunks out of the stoppers eventually, if not immediately.
As for the air bubble, a small bubble doesn't matter. Plus, it pushes out the juice if you make sure to push out the air LAST when you shoot.Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu
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Lot of good advice. For whatever reason, I just tend to pull and push with the same needle. It does take longer, and I think it is just force of habit more than anything. Probably makes more sense to use a 20 to draw and a 23 to push, especially if expedience is important to you.
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Wow! Lots of excellent insight and advice! Yesterday was a "pin day" and I did try heating the vials up in warm water. The E drew considerably better. The EQ was still a little tough. I have all the time in the world so I don't mind it taking awhile. That said, my hand does start to cramp up pushing so hard in an awkward position! So, I think I will quickly order some 20's for pulling and use up my 25's for pushing. When they're gone I'll order 23's for slamming and even see how they draw on multiple oils. I'd really like to eliminate that 2nd slam and reduce eventual scarring!
Thanks so much to all. Great to have a forum to collect practical wisedom about such matters!Last edited by Old_usmcgrunt; 11-18-2010 at 06:22 AM.
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