Thread: Fast Rip!

I dont like those ratios much . . . maybe 0.5ml ED, but I think you need some extra test prop.

do you think it would need to be every day or would every other day be ok at 1ml?

ED would be better for keeping your plasma levels even, but yeah you could pin EOD. I dont think you're getting enough test though.

I should ask, what are your goals with this cycle?

If you say "bulk up and lose a little fat" Im going to fkg neg you!

it's not something im running yet just looking into some possibilities. Ideally I want to come off having gained 10lbs as clean as possible but like I say I dont know if I will run this just researching a few possibilities.

Im 5ft 10" 176 pounds 12% bf I really want to get up to a lean 200 pounds but dont think this is going to be possible on one cycle. if i was 200 pound at 12% bf id be quite happy with that but ideally i want to drop to 8%. so im looking for something that will help me along a bit maybe a stack to pack on the muscle and one to rip it up or just very lean slower gains. Im not planning on doing the cycle for some time untill I know exactly what to run.

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

I should ask, what are your goals with this cycle?

If you say "bulk up and lose a little fat" Im going to fkg neg you!

Originally Posted by burnsyboy

if i was 200 pound at 12% bf id be quite happy with that

No you wouldnt. You will get there and think "I was ? I would be happy with?"

I know because Im 200 at 12%. I was where you were and I dont notice much in the mirror. Just my deficiencies.

I guess thats just the bodybuilding mind set. I know what you mean you always end up wanting to push that bit more. What do you think with gaining that 20 pounds though? what kind of cycle would you run? I dont want to bloat right out so would rather take twice as long and maintain my bodyfat percentage than do it in 6 weeks and look like a bag of water.

Have you done a cycle before? How old are you?

Im 24 have done one of sus and deca however that was a while ago and to be honest I now know I didnt run it anywhere near how I was meant to due to bad advice. Im not looking to be huge just want decent size at a low bf%.

I'd ditch the pre-mixes man. If you want to run multiple compounds get them each and that way you can dose how you want.

Lets say that the tren was too much. There's no way to tone back the tren without affecting everything else.

cheers sloppyj thats a good point I thought it would be easier to run this way but I guess it would only work if they were at the correct dose for yourself. I dont know if I should just keep it simple and go for dbol but thats going to fill me up with water? I dont like the idea of injecting every day. not due to the pain or anything just start to feel like a crack addict. I like the compounds in this rip fast from what ive read it should give pretty dry lean gains. what else could work this way?

Why not a test and tren cycle? Heard great things.

Just do a test only cycle at 500 mg per week for 10-12 weeks. You will get that 20-25 lbs you're looking for then just cut after that and bring your bf down. You need to do some of the work on your own. Steroids aren't a magical drug that makes you look like Arnold. And Tren I would stay away from since this is only your second cycle.

cheers guys great help. Yeah I realise its not a miracle pill or injection but it does help no doubt there. I train hard and eat fairly healthy but to be honest i think as long as you train hard you dont need to worry too much on diet when bulking as long as calories are high. but thats just me.

Originally Posted by burnsyboy

cheers guys great help. Yeah I realise its not a miracle pill or injection but it does help no doubt there. I train hard and eat fairly healthy but to be honest i think as long as you train hard you dont need to worry too much on diet when bulking as long as calories are high. but thats just me.

You are so wrong. . . even on a bulk the quality of your diet is EVERYTHING.

Forget that shitty blend, it will only give you grief. Read up on some proper nutrition, and also check out Heavy Irons' Bible for Newbs:

First Cycle and PCT

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

You are so wrong. . . even on a bulk the quality of your diet is EVERYTHING.

Forget that shitty blend, it will only give you grief. Read up on some proper nutrition, and also check out Heavy Irons' Bible for Newbs:

First Cycle and PCT

^^^SO TRUE^^^

Diet is everything. I wouldnt even count your last cycle. This is your first. Go with Test E or C at 500mg per week. You can keep your plasma levels steady and only pin 2x a week. You might do a Tbol or Dbol kicker but not necessary. Remember your AI, HCG and a good PCT. Get your diet in order. Your diet is absolutely everything. Especially on AAS. I wouldnt even mess with a cycle if your diet wasnt in perfect order.

And stay away from the Tren. It is not for beginners. It is a progesterone and is best left to the more experienced.

Ok so this is the cycle im maybe considering to do eventualy once im completely on track Test enanthate 500mgs a week for 10 weeks
pct looks like this:
Day 1- Clomid 200mg+novlvadex 40 mg
Following 10 days- Clomid 50mg+ nolvadex 20mg
Following 10 days- Clomid 50mg or nolvadex 20mg