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    Steroid use on the rise in the Army
    By Hal Bernton

    An investigation last year at Joint Base Lewis-McChord uncovered illegal use of steroids among soldiers bound for Afghanistan, and offers a rare look at what surveys indicate is a rising use of these drugs within the military.

    PIER PAOLO CITO / ASSOCIATED PRESS Army Lt. Col. Burton Shields, with village leaders in Afghanistan earlier this year, learned about illegal steroid use among his troops just weeks before his Joint Base Lewis-McChord battalion was to deploy to the war zone in 2009

    Anabolic steroids

    How are they used? Anabolic steroids are taken orally or injected, and abusers normally take them in cycles of weeks or months, rather than continuously, in patterns called "cycling." Cycling involves taking multiple doses of steroids over a period of time, typically eight weeks, stopping for a period and then starting again. Users frequently combine several types of steroids to maximize their effectiveness while minimizing negative effects, a process known as "stacking."

    What are the effects?: Reports indicate that use of anabolic steroids can increase lean muscle mass, strength and an ability to train longer and harder. Steroid use can cause short-term effects that include baldness and reduced sperm counts. Steroid use can increase the risk of liver tumors, jaundice, fluid retention and high blood pressure. Researchers report that some users may experience mood swings, extreme irritability and impaired judgment.

    Source: National Institute on Drug Abuse

    Just weeks before his battalion of some 700 soldiers departed for Afghanistan in summer 2009, Lt. Col. Burton Shields had a disconcerting visit from an Army investigator.

    The agent said several soldiers under Shields' command at Joint Base Lewis-McChord had admitted to illegal use of steroids. One of the suspected users was a battalion captain.
    Shields, who led the 4th Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, was skeptical. He questioned whether Army investigators might have mistaken legal dietary supplements for steroids.

    But in the days that followed, the captain, as well as a lieutenant, first sergeant and nine other soldiers, admitted using steroids, according to investigative documents that offer a rare look at illegal use of those drugs in the military.

    Steroid use in the Army has been on the rise amid a prolonged period of warfare. To prepare for — and perform — on combat tours of duty, some soldiers told investigators they turned to steroids to boost their brawn.

    The latest Defense Department survey — conducted in 2008 — found that 2.5 percent of Army personnel had illegally used steroids within the past 12 months, a jump from three years earlier, when 1.5 percent said they had used these drugs illegally.

    The percentage of infantry soldiers taking steroids may be higher than for the overall Army.

    Several soldiers from the 4/23 Battalion, who confessed to using steroids, estimated that more than half the unit of some 700 soldiers had sampled steroids, according to investigative documents obtained by The Seattle Times under the federal Freedom of Information Act. One soldier had a scheme for continuing steroid use in Afghanistan through the receipt of mail-order packages that would disguise the drugs in lotion packets.

    Anabolic steroids can increase muscle mass and strength.

    But to achieve these effects, the steroids are typically taken at much higher levels then those prescribed by doctors. These drugs can raise the risk of high blood pressure, heart and liver disease, and side effects can include mood swings, irritability and increased aggression, which can be a volatile attribute for soldiers headed off to battle.

    "The use of steroids is a short-term gain for long-term problems that individuals are going to have, and we cannot tolerate them in any way, shape or form," said Gen. Peter Chiarelli, the Army's vice chief of staff, who has taken a leadership role in Army efforts to reduce drug use among soldiers.

    Costly testing limited

    Soldiers may be tested for steroids when a commander has probable cause to suspect abuse.

    But since 2008, only about 300 soldiers have been tested for steroids, according to Army statistics provided by Chiarelli. In contrast, the Army conducts random testing of more than 450,000 soldiers each year for use of marijuana, cocaine, heroin and other narcotics.
    Army officials say the steroid analysis is too expensive to be included in the random drug testing. The Army cost for a steroid urinalysis ranges from $240 to $365 per sample, which compares with a cost as low as $8 per sample for marijuana, according to Army statistics.

    Seattle police tip

    At Joint Base Lewis-McChord, steroid use in Shields' battalion might have gone undetected if not for a tip in June 2009 from the Seattle Police Department. While investigating illegal gambling, a Seattle undercover detective encountered a battalion soldier who talked about steroid use and distribution. The Seattle police tipped off the Army Criminal Investigative Command, which had agents interview soldiers.

    In the documents released to The Seattle Times, the names of battalion soldiers who admitted to using steroids were blacked out because none of the soldiers were convicted of any crimes. The soldiers were subject to other disciplinary actions, including an Article 15 punishment slapped on the captain, who was subject to pay forfeiture and up to 30-day confinement to his quarters.

    Shields, the battalion commander, declined to be interviewed for this story.
    But Maj. Kathleen Turner, a Joint Base Lewis-McChord spokeswoman, said the captain, first lieutenant and first sergeant who used steroids were subject to disciplinary actions and did not deploy to Afghanistan.

    Usage an open secret

    In the nine years since the 9/11 attacks, Joint Base Lewis-McChord has sent tens of thousands of troops to Iraq and Afghanistan.
    In Iraq, some soldiers say steroid use was no secret.

    "No one really hid this," said Seth Manzel, an Army veteran who served from 2004-05 in Mosul, Iraq, with the 1st Brigade, 25th Infantry Division. "I walked into a squad leader's room one time, and he was with another soldier who had his pants down around his ankle. He had a needle and was injecting that soldier."

    Manzel said about a half-dozen soldiers in his 35-man platoon used steroids. His roommate and several other soldiers took steroids purchased from American contractors who worked at the Mosul base, and they injected themselves with needles provided by medics, he said.

    Officers, he added, weren't eager to investigate steroid use.

    "If a captain sees his soldiers getting stronger at a quicker rate, that's not necessarily a bad thing," said Manzel, who now operates Coffee Strong, a Lakewood, Pierce County, coffee shop, and has been active in the anti-war movement.

    Some soldiers report steroid use among Army Rangers, who repeatedly cycle through war zones for months of difficult duty.

    One Ranger veteran told The Seattle Times that several members of his unit were "juicing" while in Iraq in 2005, including a squad leader. The Ranger veteran said he also intended to take steroids but forgot his doses back at Lewis-McChord, so he took them upon his return.
    "While I was doing them, I doubled in (muscular) size," the veteran said.

    But there were side effects.

    He was angry much of the time, quick to snap at his girlfriend, and he found himself on an emotional roller coaster while coming off the steroids. But he sees value in steroids for soldiers heading off to combat.

    "There is a broad spectrum of things that could kill you in a war zone. You need to be aggressive and quick. I would do them again in a heartbeat."

    Rush "to get stronger"

    In early 2009, the 4/23 Battalion learned that instead of going to Iraq that summer, the soldiers would head to southern Afghanistan to battle the Taliban insurgency.

    The battalion was part of an infantry brigade equipped with eight-wheeled Stryker vehicles. But many of the combat missions in the rural south would require long foot patrols through villages, farm fields and hill country, where loads carried by individual soldiers could weigh more than 90 pounds.

    To gain muscle and endurance, battalion soldiers worked out with weights and jogged with armor. And some shared tips on steroids such as Decadrol, Anadrol and Winstrol that soldiers said cost from $200 to $500 for an eight-week supply.

    "I wanted to get stronger. I knew we were deploying," one soldier, who used an injectable steroid as he trained for Afghanistan, told investigators. "We had this road march through the woods [during training], and I almost fell out, and they had to take my weapon ... I wanted to make sure that didn't happen over there."

    The steroids were purchased easily from online Internet sites and delivered to off-base houses. One soldier said he then would distribute the drugs at a gathering point in front of a barrack.
    After Seattle police tipped them off, Army investigators sought to conduct steroid urinalysis on the entire battalion of some 700 soldiers. That request was rejected by Army legal officials because there was a lack of evidence to justify it, according to investigative documents.

    But the Army investigators did conduct more-limited testing, along with interviews of soldiers and officers. Some battalion officers, when interviewed by investigators, expressed surprise at the steroid use.

    But another battalion captain admitted to taking steroids twice at his apartment in DuPont. He felt comfortable enough to inject the drug even as a first sergeant in the unit was visiting his home.

    "At first I disagreed with him and told him not to mess with it," the first sergeant told investigators.

    Then the first sergeant had a change of heart. Offered steroids by the captain, he injected the drugs during a two-month period.

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    Should be allowed.
    Who doesn't want a bigger faster more aggressive solider.
    I myself are joining the commandos this summer.
    Here is hoping to be the biggest mutha fucker there.

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    "These drugs can raise the risk of high blood pressure, heart and liver disease, and side effects can include mood swings, irritability and increased aggression, which can be a volatile attribute for soldiers headed off to battle".
    Better Q. for these guys: What do you think sending these young men and now women to combat on trumped up intel is gonna do to them!
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    How scared would the taliban be with super jacked solders running at them with automatic rifles.

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    Done it this way we would have finished and been back for dinner.



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    Typical. Bunch of empty suits condeming the soldiers that are fighting for their lives and ours as well. As far as I am concerned, they should be given the juice (with tax payer money) if they wanted it. And a damn raise. And more guns. And some bitches, too.

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    Most of my friends are all in the military.....and most of them juice. Bottom line in their minds, is that they can carry two of their friends out of harms way instead of just one when the SHTF. Often there is hand to hand combat. War is war....I'm sure most of you guys know what the Nazi's used.


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    i'd say something but I figure its best to keep my mouth shut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaONE View Post
    i'd say something but I figure its best to keep my mouth shut.
    Yes it is.. Or you may offend many members of this board..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhardly View Post
    Typical. Bunch of empty suits condeming the soldiers that are fighting for their lives and ours as well. As far as I am concerned, they should be given the juice (with tax payer money) if they wanted it. And a damn raise. And more guns. And some bitches, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by VictorZ06 View Post
    Most of my friends are all in the military.....and most of them juice. Bottom line in their minds, is that they can carry two of their friends out of harms way instead of just one when the SHTF. Often there is hand to hand combat. War is war....I'm sure most of you guys know what the Nazi's used./V
    Amen my brothers. This is the biggest bunch of BS. I shouldnt worry about getting drug tested next month. I need to be given the shit paid for by all of you!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cavtrooper96 View Post
    Amen my brothers. This is the biggest bunch of BS. I shouldnt worry about getting drug tested next month. I need to be given the shit paid for by all of you!!!
    Agreed


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    The percentage of infantry soldiers taking steroids may be higher than for the overall Army.

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    God forbid we become stronger than our enemies.
    One thought comes to mind though. I have alot of good friends that were in OIF that were juicing during or prior to OIF. They seem not to have any symptoms of PTSD that most of my friends that didnt juice did. I believe that as much money as they could spend to test people for roid use they can be researching it. Im sure there is more than one application for juicing during war besides getting bigger. If it reduces PTSD that alone would end up saving money than having soldiers on disability for the rest of their lives for PTSD. I have no medical proof to back this up, but this is just an assumption that I have made with my buddies while drinking a beer.

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    what about cops?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazeftp View Post
    Should be allowed.
    Who doesn't want a bigger faster more aggressive solider.
    I myself are joining the commandos this summer.
    Here is hoping to be the biggest mutha fucker there.
    Hitler used to give his soldiers Meth
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    Quote Originally Posted by theCaptn' View Post
    Hitler used to give his soldiers Meth
    Rumor has it, that they also experimented with a derivative of test. Hitler himself was known to have been administered AAS to treat ailments. Not to mention the experiments on prisoners at Auschwitz and Buchenwald.

    Anabolic steroid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by cavtrooper96 View Post
    amen my brothers. This is the biggest bunch of bs. I shouldnt worry about getting drug tested next month. I need to be given the shit paid for by all of you!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11B View Post
    The percentage of infantry soldiers taking steroids may be higher than for the overall Army.
    Dont forget about Cavalry soldiers!

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    "Be all you can be"

    whether it's with juice or not, right? I'm all for the military using juice. Do you want a 250 lb jacked soldier defending your country or a 170 lb guy? Bigger doesn't always mean better but it damn sure helps in combat situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rippedgolfer View Post
    Bigger doesn't always mean better but it damn sure helps in combat situations.
    That it does my friend, that it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theCaptn' View Post
    Hitler used to give his soldiers Meth
    And the US gives fighter pilots "Go Pills". Dextroamphetamine. Meh.

    I'm with the others - give soldiers gear. Firefighters too. When the building I'm in goes down in flames, I want a jacked freak who can bust through the wall and carry my unconscious ass down a ladder come to save me. I don't care if it's a man or a woman, just as long as I get out alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    And the US gives fighter pilots "Go Pills". Dextroamphetamine. Meh.

    I'm with the others - give soldiers gear. Firefighters too. When the building I'm in goes down in flames, I want a jacked freak who can bust through the wall and carry my unconscious ass down a ladder come to save me. I don't care if it's a man or a woman, just as long as I get out alive.
    Me too !!

    Obviously it should be a choice to take the AAS, not mandatory. But if it will make these guys more efficient at protecting their countries and saving people's lives, give them what they want !


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    Quote Originally Posted by chronicelite View Post
    But if it will make these guys more efficient at protecting their countries and saving people's lives, give them what they want !
    Something which no one in this country can seem to understand, because "steroids are bad for you".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    And the US gives fighter pilots "Go Pills". Dextroamphetamine. Meh.

    I'm with the others - give soldiers gear. Firefighters too. When the building I'm in goes down in flames, I want a jacked freak who can bust through the wall and carry my unconscious ass down a ladder come to save me. I don't care if it's a man or a woman, just as long as I get out alive.
    Sounds like a fantasy you might have had!

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    Adderall is some good stuff!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by cavtrooper96 View Post
    Sounds like a fantasy you might have had!
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    Did not have a chance to get on yesterday, but I want to say I am THANKFUL for the military and the men/women who serve. They have my deepest respect and I pray for their safety. May GOD bless them and their families!

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    Im in the military and will be heading to afgan in 4 months and most of the people I spoke to told me to start taking steroids. In there mind there is no reason not to be as strong and fast as possible for war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukbigo View Post
    Im in the military and will be heading to afgan in 4 months and most of the people I spoke to told me to start taking steroids. In there mind there is no reason not to be as strong and fast as possible for war.
    Army, Navy, Marines,etc? What do you do?

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    I'm offended by the media hype believing nitwits who have the balls to question and criticize AAS use by our military personnel. They should be given AAS in every MRE they receive. Only a dumbfuck would disagree. It's war! Testosterone and brawn prevail. Who do they think should be fighting the fight, bony thin weaklings with spaghetti arms, concave chests, and potbellies? Really? Tell that Seattle Police Officer to go fuck himself and then commit suicide. What a low life punk piece of human waste.

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