Thread: dmz stack

My first choice would be testosterone. However anything that raises T would be fine.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

My first choice would be testosterone. However anything that raises T would be fine.

i take 200mg/week of cyp for hrt, so i could just run the dmz along with that and be good?

another question: i'm on a test cycle now. at the end of it, i was just going to drop my test dose back down to my maintenance amount (200mg/wk.) could i go straight to the dmz then too, or should i wait a while?

edit: i just noticed in your status that you're using dmz now. how do you like it?

Originally Posted by klc9100

i take 200mg/week of cyp for hrt, so i could just run the dmz along with that and be good?

another question: i'm on a test cycle now. at the end of it, i was just going to drop my test dose back down to my maintenance amount (200mg/wk.) could i go straight to the dmz then too, or should i wait a while?

I would run a bit over maintenance. 300mg (minimum) Cyp weekly and 20-30mg DMZ daily.

You could transition to the DMZ but how long and what have you been on?

Originally Posted by heavyiron

I would run a bit over maintenance. 300mg (minimum) Cyp weekly and 20-30mg DMZ daily.

You could transition to the DMZ but how long and what have you been on?

i've just been on 600mg/week of cyp for 5 weeks. i was planning on going 10 weeks and then dropping back down to 200mg/week. that's when i was thinking about adding the dmz and maybe another oral. i was thinking about 1-andro since it's supposed to not be hard on the liver.

does it matter when you take it (in relation to when you work out) or does it build up in your system and just do it's thing whenever you lift?

Originally Posted by klc9100

i've just been on 600mg/week of cyp for 5 weeks. i was planning on going 10 weeks and then dropping back down to 200mg/week. that's when i was thinking about adding the dmz and maybe another oral. i was thinking about 1-andro since it's supposed to not be hard on the liver.

does it matter when you take it (in relation to when you work out) or does it build up in your system and just do it's thing whenever you lift?

I think reducing the T dose and transitioning to an oral is a waste as gains will just stall. I would add the DMZ to your current dose of T at week 7. This will "push" gains so they don't stall out for weeks after that. Since decent gains start at week 5 of a T cycle you could have gains weeks 5-10 with this strategy.

Due to half lives, orals should be spread out evenly throughout the day.

Is the DMZ RX 4 real i just took 5 weeks of 1-AD didnt really notice awhole lot back in the day 1-ad was very good now idk.. can u stack the dmz instead of d-bol.. sorry to bust in on ur post klc9100

Originally Posted by heavyiron

I think reducing the T dose and transitioning to an oral is a waste as gains will just stall. I would add the DMZ to your current dose of T at week 7. This will "push" gains so they don't stall out for weeks after that. Since decent gains start at week 5 of a T cycle you could have gains weeks 5-10 with this strategy.

Due to half lives, orals should be spread out evenly throughout the day.

i know. what i'm asking is if the times you take it are relavent to the times you work out. . .

example: i take my supplements two times per day. i take some at 7:30am (before work) with my morning shake and the others at 7:30pm (before supper) with my evening shake.

i get up and go to the gym at 5:30am. can i take the dmz at the times i take my other supplements (12hrs. apart) or do i need to take atleast 1 before i workout?

Originally Posted by bknoxx

Is the DMZ RX 4 real i just took 5 weeks of 1-AD didnt really notice awhole lot back in the day 1-ad was very good now idk.. can u stack the dmz instead of d-bol.. sorry to bust in on ur post klc9100

no problem at all man.

Originally Posted by klc9100

i know. what i'm asking is if the times you take it are relavent to the times you work out. . .

example: i take my supplements two times per day. i take some at 7:30am (before work) with my morning shake and the others at 7:30pm (before supper) with my evening shake.

i get up and go to the gym at 5:30am. can i take the dmz at the times i take my other supplements (12hrs. apart) or do i need to take atleast 1 before i workout?



no problem at all man.

The beauty of having a test base is the timing of your orals are less important but I do like the oral peaking in my system as I am walking into the gym so 30 minutes pretraining would be my preferrence but that is just a preferrence.

Originally Posted by bknoxx

Is the DMZ RX 4 real i just took 5 weeks of 1-AD didnt really notice awhole lot back in the day 1-ad was very good now idk.. can u stack the dmz instead of d-bol.. sorry to bust in on ur post klc9100

DMZ is an active steroid developed and prescribed in the 60's supported by various clinical trials. It is the real deal.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/an...methazine.html

thx Heavy im gonna read more abt it

Originally Posted by heavyiron

The beauty of having a test base is the timing of your orals are less important but I do like the oral peaking in my system as I am walking into the gym so 30 minutes pretraining would be my preferrence but that is just a preferrence.

thanks. if i go ahead and add it to my cycle now, would i need to change my AI dose at all? i'm using 25mg aromasin e3d.

what effect, if any, does dmz have on cardiovascular performance? i do alot of cardio.

how is your experience with the dmz been so far?

Originally Posted by klc9100

thanks. if i go ahead and add it to my cycle now, would i need to change my AI dose at all? i'm using 25mg aromasin e3d.

what effect, if any, does dmz have on cardiovascular performance? i do alot of cardio.

how is your experience with the dmz been so far?

Dimethazine does not aromatize so an AI has little to no effect on it.

It should not effect cardio.

Fast strength gains. Kinda like a fast acting dryer d-bol.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Dimethazine does not aromatize so an AI has little to no effect on it.

It should not effect cardio.

Fast strength gains. Kinda like a fast acting dryer d-bol.

alright, i'm sold. i'm ordering some today. it seems like i saw a thread a few days ago about a sale on it. i need to find that. do you get commission? LOL

Originally Posted by klc9100

alright, i'm sold. i'm ordering some today. it seems like i saw a thread a few days ago about a sale on it. i need to find that. do you get commission? LOL

Trust me, when I first started to study this I had no idea that the data would be so strong. Most designer steroids are just old steroids from the 50's and 60's that have little to no studies on them. Dimethazine is different because it was once a prescribed steroid in the 60's. There was a bunch of solid research done on it so we can draw factual conclusions based on real science. It is an active steroid that will not be around much longer. The FDA will identify it and stop it's production. I rarely use OTC steroids or prohormones because the data is so weak. When I saw the studies on Dimethazine I was blown away. It is a no brainer. Where can you legally get a real steroid that is so strong? It is rated stronger than anadrol as far as muscle building effects. That is amazing. I never recommend anything I don't believe in. This is a product that I recommend.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Trust me, when I first started to study this I had no idea that the data would be so strong. Most designer steroids are just old steroids from the 50's and 60's that have little to no studies on them. Dimethazine is different because it was once a prescribed steroid in the 60's. There was a bunch of solid research done on it so we can draw factual conclusions based on real science. It is an active steroid that will not be around much longer. The FDA will identify it and stop it's production. I rarely use OTC steroids or prohormones because the data is so weak. When I saw the studies on Dimethazine I was blown away. It is a no brainer. Where can you legally get a real steroid that is so strong? It is rated stronger than anadrol as far as muscle building effects. That is amazing. I never recommend anything I don't believe in. This is a product that I recommend.

cool. . .

i ordered 3 bottles. if i get them by next friday, i will have 4 weeks left on my test cycle. do you think i should just run the dmz for the remaining 4 weeks, or run it for 6 weeks?

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Trust me, when I first started to study this I had no idea that the data would be so strong. Most designer steroids are just old steroids from the 50's and 60's that have little to no studies on them. Dimethazine is different because it was once a prescribed steroid in the 60's. There was a bunch of solid research done on it so we can draw factual conclusions based on real science. It is an active steroid that will not be around much longer. The FDA will identify it and stop it's production. I rarely use OTC steroids or prohormones because the data is so weak. When I saw the studies on Dimethazine I was blown away. It is a no brainer. Where can you legally get a real steroid that is so strong? It is rated stronger than anadrol as far as muscle building effects. That is amazing. I never recommend anything I don't believe in. This is a product that I recommend.

Did you find any reason cited as to why it is no longer prescribed?

Originally Posted by klc9100

cool. . .

i ordered 3 bottles. if i get them by next friday, i will have 4 weeks left on my test cycle. do you think i should just run the dmz for the remaining 4 weeks, or run it for 6 weeks?

4-6 weeks is fine. You can run it while the aas ester is clearing to keep gains rolling at the end.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

The FDA will identify it and stop its production.

Shhhh!

heavy (or anyone else that's ran dmz) -

does it seem to have any type sexual sides, good or bad (labido, etc.)???

Originally Posted by klc9100

heavy (or anyone else that's ran dmz) -

does it seem to have any type sexual sides, good or bad (labido, etc.)???

I have had zero side effects. I have gained 6lbs in 3 weeks at 20mg daily. Strength has shot up.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

I have had zero side effects. I have gained 6lbs in 3 weeks at 20mg daily. Strength has shot up.

How about being liver toxic?

I was thinking about getting some now and adding to my Spring Test/Tren/Mast cycle. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Buzzard

How about being liver toxic?

I was thinking about getting some now and adding to my Spring Test/Tren/Mast cycle. Thoughts?

I have no doubt that my liver enzymes are raised. I preloaded Liv 52 and drink plenty of water daily.

It will be fine in your cycle. Reminds me of a faster acting dryer D-bol.

wow. my dmz is already here (3 days to ga.). that's good service ironmaglabs

i've already been taking 1000mg of milk thistle per day along with my supps for a while. i should be preloaded. if i up that to 2000mg per day, should that cover me? i also take dandelion root. it's a natural mild diuretic & laxative, but is suppose to also offer liver support. i quit drinking too, so my liver should be good, don't you think?

heavy - in order to take the dmz preworkout, like we were discussing the other day, i'm going to have to take it on basically an empty stomach. is it harsh on the stomach? i work out 1st thing in the mornings. i take 15g's bcaa, 1000mg arganine, 200mg of caffiene and 25g whey along with some grape juice and a piece of white bread, about 30 min before i hit the gym. i guess i'm going to try taking it then, and then again at 5:30 in the afternoon.

if i decice later to try 30mg per day of the dmz, would you add a 2nd cap to one of the times you already take it, of do you have to reconfigure it and take one every 8hrs?

thanks - looking forward to trying it out.

ps - how long before you could actually feel a difference?

Originally Posted by klc9100

wow. my dmz is already here (3 days to ga.). that's good service ironmaglabs

i've already been taking 1000mg of milk thistle per day along with my supps for a while. i should be preloaded. if i up that to 2000mg per day, should that cover me? i also take dandelion root. it's a natural mild diuretic & laxative, but is suppose to also offer liver support. i quit drinking too, so my liver should be good, don't you think?

heavy - in order to take the dmz preworkout, like we were discussing the other day, i'm going to have to take it on basically an empty stomach. is it harsh on the stomach? i work out 1st thing in the mornings. i take 15g's bcaa, 1000mg arganine, 200mg of caffiene and 25g whey along with some grape juice and a piece of white bread, about 30 min before i hit the gym. i guess i'm going to try taking it then, and then again at 5:30 in the afternoon.

if i decice later to try 30mg per day of the dmz, would you add a 2nd cap to one of the times you already take it, of do you have to reconfigure it and take one every 8hrs?

thanks - looking forward to trying it out.

ps - how long before you could actually feel a difference?

Yeah, I cut back on drinking too. That's the worst part of running orals. You sound like you have your bases covered with the liver support.

Taking DMZ with your pre training sups is fine.

I have never noticed a difference with orals when using them 2 vs 3 times daily. You could spread them out every 8 hours but I am not sure how much of a difference you will notice.

I noticed pumps around day 8 if memory serves. Strength shot up a few days later.

My experience with Dmz wasnt what I hoped it would be. I worked up to running 40 mg's, and havent had that many results. If you enjoyed it, good on ya, but I'd trade a bottle of Dmz for a can of jack3d anyday. I feel that had more of an effect on my workouts. And I know its designed to have an effect you can feel, but still.

what? jacked over an oral anabolic steroid? I understand the preference, or personal choice of natty over chem enhanced, but the two do not compare.

Originally Posted by klc9100

what would be good to stack with super dmz? i was thinking about 1-andro, or maybe d-bol.

if you were going to go an oral only 6 week cycle, then I'd say 30mg of dbol with 30mg of dimethazine.


if you were to inject, i'd say go with your test base, kick start with dbol, and end the last 4-3 weeks of the cycle (ex: weeks9/10-12) with 30-40mg of dimethazine.

either option will require a strong pct.

Originally Posted by eastwoodmuscle

what? jacked over an oral anabolic steroid? I understand the preference, or personal choice of natty over chem enhanced, but the two do not compare.

Yea they arent really comparable I know. lol but Dmz just didnt do much for me.