Thread: about to run my cycle .. advice desperately needed..

you are asking way too many questions it seems you have no clue what you're doing.
iw ouldnt even advise you to run this cycle.

You definitely came to the right place for the right info as these guys gave me great advice for my first cycle, which I planned way in advance.

But I would advise you as a newbie(like myself) to seriously do your homework before asking these questions. You can find out the basics by just reading the stickies.

Just thought I would save you an ass chewing, no offense.

No PCT, I would imagine you would lost most of your gains with your body in a catabolic enviroment for an extended period of time. I would also bet you felt depressed and I'm surprised you didnt have some type of gyno issue with the test to estro ratio during the post cycle period with no Serm. If its been a while since then and you feel ok, I don't think there would be much permanent damage. But I wouldnt recommend doing it again, you want healthy natural test levels off cycle don't you? It sounds like you need more research. There is too much information you need to absorb and we will not type it all out for you. Keep reading.

Read heavyirons sticky on first cycle...about 4 times

Protein? You aren't very informed on lifting are you? Otherwise you wouldn't be asking what type of protein to take. Same with the multi-vitamin.

Don't do hgh. Only do dbol for first four weeks. Why did you choose primobolan? Personally, I think you should get on the computer for a minimum of one hour per day for the next two weeks and read and read and research. You don't seem to know the basics and you're really gonna do some harm to yourself. I remember some of your other posts and they were rookie questions too. Take some good advice and read the stickies and check out other forums as well and research as much as possible.

Originally Posted by hmandn1

You definitely came to the right place for the right info as these guys gave me great advice for my first cycle, which I planned way in advance.

But I would advise you as a newbie(like myself) to seriously do your homework before asking these questions. You can find out the basics by just reading the stickies.

Just thought I would save you an ass chewing, no offense.

Don't be afraid to ask questions, thats what these places are for. The only ones that would chew you out for seek'n wisdom would be a fool look'n to impress other fools.Bein a new person is not a slight, but rather a begin'n. Good luck.

Peace and Love

Originally Posted by underscore

No PCT,. I would also bet you felt depressed and
If its been a while since then and you feel ok, I don't think there would be much permanent damage..

yes i felt depressed man i hate that feeling ..

it's been 5 month bro and i feel ok the thing dude i have read a lot info and

I've had many mixed views and opinions .

am really learning from u guys thanks .

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

Protein? You aren't very informed on lifting are you? Otherwise you wouldn't be asking what type of protein to take. Same with the multi-vitamin.

bro i got info about protein and am using whey protein right now but i thought that u may recommend better than whey. in some cases


Don't do hgh. Only do dbol for first four weeks. Why did you choose primobolan? ( I know that primo is not usually used for bulking but a lot of people told me to use it to get rid of some water , deca will make me hold more water . what do u think ? )

Personally, I think you should get on the computer for a minimum of one hour per day for the next two weeks and read and read and research. You don't seem to know the basics and you're really gonna do some harm to yourself. I remember some of your other posts and they were rookie questions too. Take some good advice and read the stickies and check out other forums as well and research as much as possible.

dude am not expert to be honest am learning ..

can u tell me why not primo ..( i can exclude it ) if u think test with dbol enough

appreciate it dude ..

I see that some members on here are pro's already. Interesting that one guy making a comment on here was like a couple months scared to poke himself with a needle.
Don't worry about these guys who come out flaming at you. No question is a dumb question.
Peace Bro.

Originally Posted by Supermans Daddy

Don't be afraid to ask questions, thats what these places are for. The only ones that would chew you out for seek'n wisdom would be a fool look'n to impress other fools.Bein a new person is not a slight, but rather a begin'n. Good luck.

Peace and Love

love ya man ..

your words are wisdom .. i keep asking even though i read a lot

coz there might be something i never come across , experienced people can improve my knowledge .

keep it up ..

I'm def no expert but I've been around these boards for nearly ten years and have researched like it's a full time job. Primo is a mild steroid that is generally used for cutting. Not known for bulking cycles. If you want to keep water retention down you can do so by altering your ai intake. Since this is your second cycle, you're best sticking to one or two compounds. That way you can pin point which compound is giving you issues in the event that were to happen. But if your running multiple compounds, how will you know which one is causing probs? Just stick with dbol and test. You will be happy with it. Save the primo for another cycle. Maybe a future cutting cycle. Good luck bro. Sorry if I was a little rude or harsh earlier.

Originally Posted by ScorpionKing

I see that some members on here are pro's already. Interesting that one guy making a comment on here was like a couple months scared to poke himself with a needle.
Don't worry about these guys who come out flaming at you. No question is a dumb question.
Peace Bro.

i like high class people like u man .

i really don't worry about them

peace man ..

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

i'm def no expert but i've been around these boards for nearly ten years and have researched like it's a full time job. Primo is a mild steroid that is generally used for cutting. Not known for bulking cycles. If you want to keep water retention down you can do so by altering your ai intake(how?i need a bit more explanation plz). Since this is your second cycle, you're best sticking to one or two compounds. That way you can pin point which compound is giving you issues in the event that were to happen. But if your running multiple compounds, how will you know which one is causing probs? Just stick with dbol and test. You will be happy with it. Save the primo for another cycle. Maybe a future cutting cycle. Good luck bro. Sorry if i was a little rude or harsh earlier ( don't worry man it's fine as long as i have ur input hahaha :d.

cheers man ..

Are you using an AI such as arimidex or aromasin? I use arimidex and typically the vets will suggest taking 0.5 mg every other day (eod) and increase it as needed. You basically want to take as little as possible to get the desired effect (to lessen estrogen sides or water retention). Everyone is different. You have to find the right amount for you which may take a little experimenting.

i will use arimidex . 0.5mg pday .

the qustione is . do i have to take arimidex everyday or during the workouts ?

I take mine after breakfast but I don't think it matters when you take it. Just need to get the dose right for you.

Originally Posted by moarwhey123

you are asking way too many questions it seems you have no clue what you're doing.
iw ouldnt even advise you to run this cycle.

I agree, do your homework !!

Originally Posted by ScorpionKing

I see that some members on here are pro's already. Interesting that one guy making a comment on here was like a couple months scared to poke himself with a needle.

I was think'n the exact same thing ! lolol I also remember PM'n that person to offer support when he was bein mistreated. I seem to remember that they found no enjoyment in bein treated rudely.So know'n how that feel's ,but do it to someone just look'n for help really is kinda evil. But I ain't gotta live with that so move'n right along

as far as Adex ,anyone who understands half lifes would know that you need to take " timed doses' to keep anything at a certain strength in your system. Some use an AI ED some can do fine with EOD. Most will advise ED for the first week or the week before you start a cycle to allow a build up in your system.. It's some super smart cats here HOWEVER..........Watch out for Parrots, Brakkk, coo, coo. !! lol

Parrot= one that can quote everythin he hears, but don't have a clue of what any of it means.

Peace and Love

Originally Posted by Supermans Daddy

I was think'n the exact same thing ! lolol I also remember PM'n that person to offer support when he was bein mistreated. I seem to remember that they found no enjoyment in bein treated rudely.So know'n how that feel's ,but do it to someone just look'n for help really is kinda evil. But I ain't gotta live with that so move'n right along

as far as Adex ,anyone who understands half lifes would know that you need to take " timed doses' to keep anything at a certain strength in your system. Some use an AI ED some can do fine with EOD. Most will advise ED for the first week or the week before you start a cycle to allow a build up in your system.. It's some super smart cats here HOWEVER..........Watch out for Parrots, Brakkk, coo, coo. !! lol

Parrot= one that can quote everythin he hears, but don't have a clue of what any of it means.

Peace and Love

If you are referring to me then just come out and say it.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

If you are referring to me then just come out and say it.

OK, not a problem YOU Homey. When you were post'n questions that made peeps womder if you LE Remember ? I even hit you up on another board to give you support. Show others love like some of us showed you. That better ? It don't make you get cool points to dis another man. Come on now.Ima believe you're a bigger ,smarter and better man than that.Now learn from this or continue ,your choice, but just remember how you felt.
Peace and Love

Originally Posted by Supermans Daddy

OK, not a problem YOU Homey. When you were post'n questions that made peeps womder if you LE Remember ? I even hit you up on another board to give you support. Show others love like some of us showed you. That better ? It don't make you get cool points to dis another man. Come on now.Ima believe you're a bigger ,smarter and better man than that.Now learn from this or continue ,your choice, but just remember how you felt.
Peace and Love

SD, with all due respect, bc I do respect you and most people on this board do as well and I appreciated your pm, but I took it not as support but as "don't bring that over here". I clearly wasn't alone in what was said bc I got a rep from a vet for that remark. You guys preach on here how you need a solid base before touching gear but a guy is asking what vitamins to take and protein and you don't think people will say something? If you had a good base, you would have all these in order. And to be honest, not a lot of people showed me love. You, unclem, pyes and a few other vets. So nonetheless, I did apologize to the OP. I don't know how much you're around SD but there's questions like this everyday. What should my first cycle be? I'm 19 and I want to use. I want to stack four different compounds my first try. I need gear to make me lose weight. I'm around the board a lot and it gets old. Just read the stickies and you'll get your answers.

Originally Posted by ScorpionKing

I see that some members on here are pro's already. Interesting that one guy making a comment on here was like a couple months scared to poke himself with a needle.
Don't worry about these guys who come out flaming at you. No question is a dumb question.
Peace Bro.

And this is coming from someone who has been lifting one year and is doing 1,300 mg per week of test. Yeah it is interesting.

Yes coming from a guy who has been lifting a year and the 1300 mg a week test cyp is about right.
1 year of dedicated solid lifting and 1 year with 3 cycles.
You see Ripped Golfer it's not about flaming the new guy and being a total jerk. No matter how much experience you have you must learn how to treat others with respect.
nobody likes a ass and no body really likes a smart ass.
Try next time to be more patient with the person your trying to help. No matter if you have 20 years or 2 months. Share what you have learned and do it in a manner that shows you have some class.

Originally Posted by tomy2

questions:

-which protein would u recommend to take ..

Originally Posted by ScorpionKing

Yes coming from a guy who has been lifting a year and the 1300 mg a week test cyp is about right.
1 year of dedicated solid lifting and 1 year with 3 cycles.
You see Ripped Golfer it's not about flaming the new guy and being a total jerk. No matter how much experience you have you must learn how to treat others with respect.
nobody likes a ass and no body really likes a smart ass.
Try next time to be more patient with the person your trying to help. No matter if you have 20 years or 2 months. Share what you have learned and do it in a manner that shows you have some class.

I agree. I was wrong and I did apologize. Lessoned learned.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

SD, with all due respect, bc I do respect you and most people on this board do as well and I appreciated your pm, but I took it not as support but as "don't bring that over here". I clearly wasn't alone in what was said bc I got a rep from a vet for that remark. You guys preach on here how you need a solid base before touching gear but a guy is asking what vitamins to take and protein and you don't think people will say something? If you had a good base, you would have all these in order. And to be honest, not a lot of people showed me love. You, unclem, pyes and a few other vets. So nonetheless, I did apologize to the OP. I don't know how much you're around SD but there's questions like this everyday. What should my first cycle be? I'm 19 and I want to use. I want to stack four different compounds my first try. I need gear to make me lose weight. I'm around the board a lot and it gets old. Just read the stickies and you'll get your answers.

Homey,I can see where you're come'n from and it's beautiful. Just try and not be like so many others who look to abuse not educate.Don't be like those jerks that did'nt show you love, you don't want that.Take what Pyes,M and Me gave you and do it like that.(Btw all the guys you mentioned that showed you love all mod on other boards, so go figure lol) And I guess it was a kinda "don't don't bring that over here" lol just a really nice "don't bring that over here" . Because it leads to problems that don't even have to be.You're a good guy don't be swayed by others who have either lost or never had the ability to extend kindness and respect.As far as see'n the same questions posted over and over........Homey I been here since 2003, you got any idea how many time I've seen the same questions here ??? Solution is if you can't say somethin nice or helpful, just pass it by.You can also try the approach I use, I don't advise on protocol unless I'm asked personally. That stops everythin dead in it's tracks.Why do you think I've got less than 1500 post in all these years ? lolol

Peace and Love

Originally Posted by Supermans Daddy

It's some super smart cats here HOWEVER..........Watch out for Parrots, Brakkk, coo, coo. !! lol

Parrot= one that can quote everythin he hears, but don't have a clue of what any of it means.

Peace and Love

I like that! LOL!!!

Originally Posted by Supermans Daddy

Homey,I can see where you're come'n from and it's beautiful. Just try and not be like so many others who look to abuse not educate.Don't be like those jerks that did'nt show you love, you don't want that.Take what Pyes,M and Me gave you and do it like that.(Btw all the guys you mentioned that showed you love all mod on other boards, so go figure lol) And I guess it was a kinda "don't don't bring that over here" lol just a really nice "don't bring that over here" . Because it leads to problems that don't even have to be.You're a good guy don't be swayed by others who have either lost or never had the ability to extend kindness and respect.As far as see'n the same questions posted over and over........Homey I been here since 2003, you got any idea how many time I've seen the same questions here ??? Solution is if you can't say somethin nice or helpful, just pass it by.You can also try the approach I use, I don't advise on protocol unless I'm asked personally. That stops everythin dead in it's tracks.Why do you think I've got less than 1500 post in all these years ? lolol

Peace and Love

You crack me up man. You always have a way of smoothing things out. Must be the influence of the islands. I've never met anyone from the islands with bad intentions. Most are genuine, good people.

guys is there any different between the arimidex and tamoxifen ..

I am wondering if i can use tamoxifen instead of arimidex during the cycle . dose it do the same job as arimidex ?

thanks in advance ..