Thread: Underdosed vials?

Originally Posted by touchdown

I've been running about a ml short on my 10 ml vials. I have been filling my syringes up to the ml mark including the liquid in the needle. Does the liquid in the needle not count as part of the injection amount. Have i been overdosing my injections or is my gear just underdosed?

Pretty common issue. Could be some of both, or you might be losing a bit in the transfer. I wouldn't worry about it. I usually count on getting a little less and order accordingly. Better to have too much than not enough at the end of your cycle.

Are you drawing and shooting with the same needle? I found that I wasted a little each time on my first go around when I changed pins (draw with one then shoot with another) over time it adds up, especially if you are doing frequent injects. Now I make sure to draw a full cc and leave none in the needle. I don't think the little bit that would be in the neelde will make a difference as far as potency, but over time you may waste a whole cc. If that makes sense.

I have been switching needles but I draw the oil out of the needle before I switch.

When I draw out of the vial I fill the syringe to the ml mark counting the liquid in the needle. I dont just draw it so the syringe is filled and not the needle. If that makes sense. The measurements technically start on the syringe and dont account for the oil in the needle and the hub of the needle.

Maybe I should fill it so it is slightly below the ml mark. Then when I draw some air in, the measurement should equal 1 exactly for just the syringe.

As long of you keep the process constant, it will not matter. Try not to complicate it this much..lol

Originally Posted by touchdown

Maybe I should fill it so it is slightly below the ml mark. Then when I draw some air in, the measurement should equal 1 exactly for just the syringe.

Exactly what I do. That way I can go a full ten weeks, not nine or nine and a half.

Dude it's not underdosed vials it would be underfilled vials.

Pretty common. Order more than needed.

yeah bro get used to it if your using vet or underground gear.

Back in the day a certain mod at elite would swear that ttokkyo was NOT underfilled and that EVERYONE was just drawing it wrong, and then flame anyone who would dare say otherwise. It got so bad that bros would just repeat the "ttokkyo is not underfilled" and "i dont have a problem" lines out of fear of getting flamed...lol

Funny but I never had this problem with my SICOR depo testosterone.....(at least not a full mil or more)

every vial I ever had never had 10mls . . more like 8.5-9mls