Thread: SloppyJ's 1st Cycle.

I will look at it after I get back from the gym! I'm headed there now.

awsome journal lots of great info from everyone what are you size stats. oh and more pics

Just when I thought my gains stalled, I had a very good day in the gym. I honestly HATE my training schedule this week. I'm working out MWF two body parts per day. I have to get this done in an hour on my lunch break. I felt extremely rushed today. I got 315 on deadlift 6x for my heaviest working set. That straight wore me out. However I cannot stress enough how awesome these versa gripps are. I got a new back belt also and I really like it.

Question. Next week I'm going out of town to go duck hunting. I'll be gone on the day I'm supposed to pin. What would be my best option? Pin Tuesday (250mg) as planned and then pin thursday night and resume normal schedule on the following week? Or just pin 500mg on tuesday and resume to the 2x weekly the next week? It probably doesn't matter and I'm making too big of a deal out of it.


Thanks for the props guys. Pitbull what stats are you looking for?

I also think I'm going to start eating more. Whether it be clean or cheat. I need the cal's. Going straight from a cut to a bulk is fucking with me. I'm scared of gaining too much fat and losing my progress. My weight has been at 216 for 4 days now. I did do cardio yesterday though.

Just do it as close to the day you are scheduled to pin then resume as scheduled. I've pinned twice this cycle a day early. I think you're better off splitting it then doing it all at once since that's your schedule now anyways.

I finally feel like my size is catching up with my strength gains. The strength shot through the roof and the size wasn't as good. But now I'm feeling better about it. No doubt it's there though. I'm up to 219 today. Still waiting for the test to come on strong but I'm starting to feel a bit different. Pumps last longer while out of the gym, and my muscles actually look different. My bi's are much more full for instance. I'm also ramping up the food intake a little so that should help.

The biggest improvement on my body is my chest. I naturally store fat on my chest so I really wanted to focus on bringing my chest out. Anyway, here is a new pic. I'm not sure how it stacks up against the other one or if I even look different, but I know I feel better. Based solely on the mirror, I feel like I have lost BF so far. Since I've been realizing this I have been trying to add some more cals into my diet. I'm trying to find that perfect balance.

Looking good bro. Sometimes the scale just doesn't justify your gains. I've only put on between 12-15 lbs but on New Year's, I saw a bunch of my friends whom I haven't seen since pre-cycle. Some were taken back by how much bigger I got. I really don't feel that much bigger. All my clothes are a lot tighter but the scale can be very deceiving. Maybe they were just drunk, but a few of my friends just kept repeating how jacked I looked. Let the mirror do the talking. Once the test kicks in, you'll know it. All your hormones change. My voice even sounds a little deeper lol. For some odd reason, test e hits me pretty fast, like in 7 days. I upped my test to 750 mg almost two weeks ago and about a week ago, my estrogen levels were off. My fingers were getting fat and I was retaining water. I even put on a few pounds. Started to get gyno flare ups again too. But I increased my adex and it seems to be back under control. Keep at it bro!

Well, chest will grow, so will delts, seems that there are alot of androgen receptors there.
I remember one cycle my shoulders exploded, I was not even hitting them that much.

I wouldn't argue with a bigger chest or shoulders. My shoulders are kind of lacking anyway. But they have been getting better.

Something different is going on for sure. The past 3-4 days my body has looked and felt 10x better. Muscles are much more full. I roll over in the morning and feel noticeably bigger each time. I get damn bicep pump from washing my face in the morning while I take a shower. Things like that. Strength is slowly rising even after the initial rush of dbol strength which was pretty god damn awesome. My appetite is picking up as well.

Things are looking up boys.

Oh and I just got a $2.50 raise! Jackpot.....is that a primo cycle I hear calling my name? lol

So it's almost the end of week 5 of 12. My weight kind of stalled a little bit because of a 4 day hunting trip I took where I couldn't eat right or sleep much. But now I'm back on track and increasing my cal's even more. I'm starting to eat a little dirtier just to make sure I got enough.

I'm thinking about bumping my test up to 625 or 750. I'm leaning toward 750. I really want to blow up and that just isn't happening yet, I'm still hovering around 220. Maybe I should just wait it out? Tomorrow is my last day of Dbol also. I will take a break from the orals for 4 weeks then start Winny from week 10 through 14. PCT of clomid starts on week 15.

I havent noticed much strength increase since the dbol (which was amazing) but my endurance is rising. Normally I work up to my heaviest set and only do one set. Yesterday I was able to squeeze another set of 4more reps out of my heaviest deadlift set. (Even though there was a flaming homo standing right behind me.)

Here's a pic from the other night. I'm getting to where I want to be but I'm still a ways out. Obviously I need to drop some fat after the cycle but I'm not stressing about that.

Hell yea man...Looking good!! I bumped my Test up top 600 last week on week 8 and im bumping it upto 750 next week on week 10. My gf didnt see me for a week and stated that it looks like my shoulders have exploded. All those deadlifts and standing overhead presses are paying off.

For all my heavy sets, I work upto my working set and then bang out 2 sets of them.

Eat Big, Train Big, Get BIG!!

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

I was able to squeeze another set of 4more reps out of my heaviest deadlift set. (Even though there was a flaming homo standing right behind me.)

So what you're saying is homos make you lift more. Interesting. Lifting weights = hypertrophy. Lifting weights + homos = homo hypertrophy.

Originally Posted by Life

So what you're saying is homos make you lift more. Interesting. Lifting weights = hypertrophy. Lifting weights + homos = homo hypertrophy.

No that's not what I'm saying. I tried out a new gym yesterday and let's say it's not the normal crowd I'm used to. I think I scared him just a little bit. Needless to say I'll stick to my old homoless gym.

And Hell, since I start a new week tomorrow I think I'm going to go to 625 and then hit 750 the next week and ride it on out from there. I think with my size that 500 just isn't going to be as effective as it would be on a newb at 150lbs.

I'd just watch for estrogen related sides.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

And Hell, since I start a new week tomorrow I think I'm going to go to 625 and then hit 750 the next week and ride it on out from there. I think with my size that 500 just isn't going to be as effective as it would be on a newb at 150lbs.

Hell yea man!!

Originally Posted by Life

I'd just watch for estrogen related sides.

Don't worry I will. I'm on .25 adex ED right now. I started higher than that but bumped it down a little bit. I have letro and nolva on hand incase shit goes crazy.

I think 750 for a first cycle is a bit much IMO.
You have two diffrent orals in there as well.
Just watch out for blood pressure issues, those can elivate quite high with androgens.

Originally Posted by hackskii

I think 750 for a first cycle is a bit much IMO.
You have two diffrent orals in there as well.
Just watch out for blood pressure issues, those can elivate quite high with androgens.

You think I should stick it out at 500 or go to 625? I haven't made the move yet. I'm just thinking about it. I'd hate for my gains to stall after the dbol washes out.

Stick to 500 for now. It's always best to use the minimum and still see some gains. Give it until about week 8-9 and if things don't change, maybe increase to 600ish. I noticed a lot of estrogen related sides when I bumped mine. When your body has excess test, it converts it to estrogen so increasing your ai will probably be required.

rip er down!

Well, generally speaking I find gains on test to be week 4 to about week 8 or a tad bit longer, but the sides including higher blood pressure and far more aromitization being higher at the end of the cycle.

Thing is gains do stall, and ramping up the dose can cause more gains, but at a higher percentage of sides.
So, for the 10% more gains (a guess), your sides are probably closer to 50% higher.

Gains come easy on gear, but so do the sides depending on the person.

I've been at 750 for four weeks now. No issues, but I've never had estrogen related sides.

I've had literally no sides except for my nips felt a little weird about 1.5 weeks into the dbol. At that point I started adex and no problems since. I'm still on the fence. I know what ripped went through and I don't want to do that at all.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

I finally feel like my size is catching up with my strength gains. The strength shot through the roof and the size wasn't as good. But now I'm feeling better about it. No doubt it's there though. I'm up to 219 today. Still waiting for the test to come on strong but I'm starting to feel a bit different. Pumps last longer while out of the gym, and my muscles actually look different. My bi's are much more full for instance. I'm also ramping up the food intake a little so that should help.

The biggest improvement on my body is my chest. I naturally store fat on my chest so I really wanted to focus on bringing my chest out. Anyway, here is a new pic. I'm not sure how it stacks up against the other one or if I even look different, but I know I feel better. Based solely on the mirror, I feel like I have lost BF so far. Since I've been realizing this I have been trying to add some more cals into my diet. I'm trying to find that perfect balance.

........ your pic gave me a chub !

At the end of the day it's your decision. Just be aware of the potential sides that may or may not come. I could def feel the increase in test in my system though. Got bloated, started retaining water, got gyno flare up, etc. It was def a different level from what I experienced but everyone is different. Shit, 750 mg just may be your sweet spot. It wasn't for me so don't base your decision solely on what I experienced. Personally, i think you should stick out the 500 for a little while longer. You keep increasing your doses looking for a little extra and in a year or two, you'll be on 1,500 mg just to gain a few pounds. Slow and steady wins the race my friend.

Originally Posted by Retlaw

........ your pic gave me a chub !

First off, you're a fuckin homo.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

At the end of the day it's your decision. Just be aware of the potential sides that may or may not come. I could def feel the increase in test in my system though. Got bloated, started retaining water, got gyno flare up, etc. It was def a different level from what I experienced but everyone is different. Shit, 750 mg just may be your sweet spot. It wasn't for me so don't base your decision solely on what I experienced. Personally, i think you should stick out the 500 for a little while longer. You keep increasing your doses looking for a little extra and in a year or two, you'll be on 1,500 mg just to gain a few pounds. Slow and steady wins the race my friend.

Secondly. Thanks for the words. I agree that 750 might be too much. I think I'll stick at 500 for a little while longer and re-evaluate. This isn't going to be my last one. I will have many more opprotunities to find my sweet spot. And with nothing to base it on I won't know until it's too late. Plus with the winny in the end I don't want to push it too hard on my first run. It seems to be working good. I'm a little concerned about what's going to happen after tomorrow when I stop the dbol.

test is very forgiving . . you have AIs . . have AIs and your sides can be managed. 750mg aint that high, and over a short time period you'll be fine.

With your dbol about to end, guarentee things will stall until you add that stanazol .. best time to up your test

And then there was the captn' hahaha

Damnit just when I was talked out of it.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

And then there was the captn' hahaha

Damnit just when I was talked out of it.

. . ahh . . I keep forgetting its your first cycle, maybe listen to the old fart