Axio Labs bust update

**Prince** · 12-12-2010, 01:08 PM

Axio Labs bust update
by Anthony Roberts

Axio labs is not out of business – they’re just busted. They’ve been busted before, and they haven’t closed up shop, so I’m not sure why people are freaking out about this recent bust. I guess the websites being down is kind of a big deal, because we haven’t seen that before when Axio is busted, but we’re talking about a company who has had millions of dollars in product seized in Canada, had the owner arrested in Ireland, etc…and not gone out of business.

Remember, we don’t know the full details yet, all we know is that some people from Axio were busted in Cyprus. Were these guys high-up in the company, was it the owner, were they just remailers? We really don’t know. What I will stress is that there have been numerous busts in the upper echelon of Axio/GenXXL in the past, and the company has kept chugging along.

At the moment details are still filtering in, and it’s difficult to get a handle on what information is accurate and what information is just speculation. From the clues in the original Cyprus report, we know the alleged ages of the people arrested. None of them match the age of Axio Labs owner, Brian Wainstein. So it may be (or not) that the owner of the company is still free, while his employees have been busted – I’ve gotten an unconfirmed report that this happened on the other (Turkish) side of Cyprus recently, as well as in Sweden.

We’ve seen this before, when Glenn England was busted in Canada…but we’ve also seen the opposite, when Wainstein served time in Ireland. Neither of these incidents caused GenXXL/Axio to go out of business.

However, Brian Wainstein has used several aliases throughout the years, and has invested a considerable sum of money into procuring fake identification – we know this not only because his original alias was “Barry Benjamin” but also because Dr.S from SteroidsLive.com was friends with a guy whose job it was to get fake ID for Wainstein.

Remember, even though GenXXL/Axio was busted, this doesn’t mean they’re out of business. Wainstein was busted on Sept 16th, 2003, he didn’t serve any time until July 30th of 2007, and he continued to operate GenXXL throughout that entire time. And remember even though he was sentenced to 2 years, he only served 4 months, while his remailer Glenn England was sentenced to 30 months and served no time at all (both continue to deal steroids).

So just because we saw a bust that involved GenXXL/Axio, doesn’t mean they’re out of business, and even if the owner was arrested, it hasn’t mattered in the past.

Remember, although this bust involves Axio, I’m not saying that the company is finished, that their websites won’t come back online, or whatever…I’m just saying that some people who worked for the company were busted. Whether or not it’s a big deal remains to be seen, but certainly Axio has gone through similar problems, and come out alright.

And interestingly enough, we’re seeing a very nice 40% off sale from Axio right now. I seem to remember another company, by the name of AP, who had a similar sale going on, back in the Operation Raw Deal days. The prices were really good, but instead of getting steroids in the mail, all of the customers got a letter from the FDA, while the United States government earned a cool $100,000. Since Axio is a $1m-2m/month operation, the temptation to bring in that kind of cash would be irresistable for the Feds (*and me, and you).

So once again, I’m not saying Axio is out of business, I’m just telling you that they got busted. And I honestly wouldn’t be too worried about it, if you’re a customer of theirs; Axio has claimed that they have filled 220,000 orders, and that they have tens of thousands of customers, and I believe them. There simply isn’t the manpower within the FDA-OCI (which is very small), nor the DEA, to track down each and every customer who got a couple of bottles of Tren or whatever. It’s just not possible.

Busted? Yes.
Out of business? Probably not.
Should you be worried? No.

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**TwisT** · 12-12-2010, 01:12 PM

What it comes down to is who was caught, and what their role in the company was. As for the rest of us, we are in the dark. All we can do is wait and watch.

-T

**DarkHorse** · 12-12-2010, 01:18 PM

Nobody here can get busted since we all have prescriptions

**bulldogz** · 12-12-2010, 01:34 PM

Damn....I really wanted to try some of their crazy blends...

**Jerhendr2203** · 12-12-2010, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by DarkHorse

Nobody here can get busted since we all have prescriptions

scripts are awesome when you can find a writer!

**basskiller** · 12-12-2010, 06:10 PM

Come on.. your telling me none of you couldn't see this happening..
Buying up a bunch of boards.. Get way to much publicity.. It's like putting a mile wide bullseye on their back. This isn't the first time they've been in trouble with the law..
When you stick this shit in the face of the FEDS like as to poke the lion in it's cage.. Don't be surprised when your get snagged!!

**theCaptn'** · 12-12-2010, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by basskiller

Come on.. your telling me none of you couldn't see this happening..
Buying up a bunch of boards.. Get way to much publicity.. It's like putting a mile wide bullseye on their back. This isn't the first time they've been in trouble with the law..
When you stick this shit in the face of the FEDS like as to poke the lion in it's cage.. Don't be surprised when your get snagged!!

Yes, World-Pharma is next

**The Deuce** · 12-12-2010, 06:33 PM

Ok.. Let's discuss a few things since this TOPIC keeps springing up ...

AXIO LABS distributes to MORE THAN JUST GENXXL !! so it was an AXIO lab that got taken down.. GenXXL does not own Axio. This has happened before and they always rebound. Now, so what, a lab got busted.. so what !! Do you really think someone that handles as much volume as them only have ONE lab.. HA.. there are probably 100 of them scattered throughout the globe. This is a set back.. Like when a QB gets a sprained ankle ..

AXIO will be back, GenX will be back, and all that Yummy goodness will be back. See I am an OPTIMIST. Not a Pessimist. I believe that in order to succeed in a business like this YOU HAVE to do what they did.. It's called taking risks.. HELL Look at what ENRON did.. sold FUTURE ENERGY to make money !! I mean COME ON !! But they made a shit ton of money didn't they.. they got caught, and sentenced to some jail time.. and MOST of them will be free again before they die. And I am sure they hid a nice little nestegg for when they do get released. But EVERY SINGLE SOURCE OUT THERE ASSUMES THE SAME RISK.. So what.. they got a little greedy.. and got caught with their pants down. The point is.. THEIR STUFF WAS REAL. Their stuff was MORE Than decently priced.. They were releasing high mg/ml blends that were revolutionizing the AAS market.. (and honestly it could have been a rat from competition that saw that they were monopolizing the market and went cheese up so they could still cash in on some of that green out there).. Their Customer Service was the BEST OUT THERE. Their Reps were quick to respond, and top notch bros.. if you ever had one single problem THEY FIXED IT !! How many other sources out there do you know that do that?? Not many.. yes there are some.. but not many at all..

We are not talking about a rinky dink little operation here. They didn't take down HEADQUARTERS for chrissakes.. they took out an outpost !! Don't you think that if a major player like Axio went down it would make WORLD NEWS.. I mean we are talking they probably have enough raws to fill a friggen WAREHOUSE. It would be just as much of a WORLD NEWS EVENT as if the Columbian Cartel was taken down.. but NO.. What did they get.. a little spot in a CYPRUS NEWSPAPER !! That is IT !! Did anyone see this on CNN?? Or CBS Evening News ?? NO.. Why?? Because it's not a big deal.

This was a scratch.. a tiny little scratch. They'll put a band aid on it.. stop the bleeding and be back on the field in no time flat.

THIS IS ALL JUST MY OPINION AND SHOULD BE REGARDED AS SUCH, EVERYONE ELSE IS ALLOWED TO SPEAK THEIR MIND ON THIS ISSUE.. SO I THOUGHT HEY.. I should TOO !!

If this was wrong for me to do.. let me know and I will edit my post, but i figured we should all be able to express how we feel about the issue at hand.

Much Respect to the Mods and Members of this Board !! I am glad to be a part of this community.. truly I am.

-TD

**rippedgolfer** · 12-12-2010, 06:49 PM

I personally think there's a lot of truth in what you said but I think you said way too much in light of the current circumstances. Maybe you should edit some things to not contain too much info or details. I understand it's just hearsay but probably not a good idea to discuss how big an operation is or how long they've been providing services, etc. You get the point. Just my $.02.

**Silver_Back** · 12-12-2010, 06:56 PM

I'm gonna start ordering from World-Pharma because they never get busted!!

Plus they have the only gear that is FDA approved..

**The Deuce** · 12-12-2010, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

I personally think there's a lot of truth in what you said but I think you said way too much in light of the current circumstances. Maybe you should edit some things to not contain too much info or details. I understand it's just hearsay but probably not a good idea to discuss how big an operation is or how long they've been providing services, etc. You get the point. Just my $.02.

LOL.. Well I can't edit it now bro because you quoted it.. and I have NO CLUE on the internal operation but the FEDS aren't stupid .. they know all about everything.. true story.. in retrospect, what they call a "WAR ON DRUGS" is all really just political so as the next person to take office can boast on what they are going to do if they were elected on "THE WAR ON DRUGS".. if they really wanted every illegal drug gone from the face of the earth they could EASILY do it.. but.. it keeps the economy going.. not to mention statistically speaking 1 out of every 3 20 dollar bills that are in circulation has been somehow tied to a drug deal in some way or another.. and to think that governments arent in on it is just ludicrous !!

At any given time, they know how much of what is going where and who's making it and when it will be arriving.. and they look the other way to let it into the country only to track it through and through so they can GET THE BUST that airs on the NEWS that makes them Heroes !! lol.. not really rocket science if you ask me.

You trying to tell me that a trained covert Black Ops team couldn't locate and snuff out every single major drug person on the planet at the snap of a finger?? Hahaha.. yah ok.. they have satellites that can peer down from outerspace and read the obit section of the newspaper along with you as you sit on your deck sipping your morning coffee...

The whole god damned world is one giant conspiracy IMO..

**bulldogz** · 12-12-2010, 07:03 PM

^^true, but now he will not be able to edit since you quoted his post even if he does edit the original post...just sayin...

edit: beat me to it

**rippedgolfer** · 12-12-2010, 07:13 PM

I hear ya bro and I am agreeing. But I think this is a touchy subject and there's no need to bring attention to this board or it's members by openly discussing how we used their services or saying they have 100 labs or 200k customers, or monopolized the industry, etc. I'm nearly certain the govt knows all about their operation and probably who buys it. But that doesn't make it a good idea to discuss on an open forum for anyone with a computer, or iPhone and Internet to read. Anyone can do a simple google search for any of the topics we discussed and it will bring them to this site. I know bc that's how I found it. And I'm sure many others did the same. Lose lips sinks ships. I'm no angel and i've been as guilty of this as the next man.

**Woodrow1** · 12-12-2010, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Saney

I'm gonna start ordering from World-Pharma because they never get busted!!

Plus they have the only gear that is FDA approved..

funk that.....they are too damn expensive

**DarkHorse** · 12-12-2010, 07:24 PM

True. If the Gov want's to fuck you they will. They have good Intel on shaddy operations but they can't fight every battle. They decide what are the priorities and what are not

Originally Posted by The Deuce

LOL.. Well I can't edit it now bro because you quoted it.. and I have NO CLUE on the internal operation but the FEDS aren't stupid .. they know all about everything.. true story.. in retrospect, what they call a "WAR ON DRUGS" is all really just political so as the next person to take office can boast on what they are going to do if they were elected on "THE WAR ON DRUGS".. if they really wanted every illegal drug gone from the face of the earth they could EASILY do it.. but.. it keeps the economy going.. not to mention statistically speaking 1 out of every 3 20 dollar bills that are in circulation has been somehow tied to a drug deal in some way or another.. and to think that governments arent in on it is just ludicrous !!

At any given time, they know how much of what is going where and who's making it and when it will be arriving.. and they look the other way to let it into the country only to track it through and through so they can GET THE BUST that airs on the NEWS that makes them Heroes !! lol.. not really rocket science if you ask me.

You trying to tell me that a trained covert Black Ops team couldn't locate and snuff out every single major drug person on the planet at the snap of a finger?? Hahaha.. yah ok.. they have satellites that can peer down from outerspace and read the obit section of the newspaper along with you as you sit on your deck sipping your morning coffee...

The whole god damned world is one giant conspiracy IMO..

**theBIGness** · 12-12-2010, 07:30 PM

big brother wants a piece of the action on every level

**superted** · 12-12-2010, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Woodrow1

funk that.....they are too damn expensive

Buy its FDA approved ur G2G

**The Deuce** · 12-12-2010, 07:56 PM

My Bad, lol, I won't post anything like that ever again.. but umm.. when you could go to their website it states how many customers, years in service, yada yada yada.. common knowledge, i was just repeating things that were already announced BY THEM.

Regardless.. IT IS WHAT IT IS !! They'll be back !!

**speed3** · 12-12-2010, 08:13 PM

If I was a company trying to protect my customers I'd say the smartest thing to do would be take down the servers and redo everthing. Any you guys ever think about that? Maybe it's for ur safety!! Pull it all offline, backup info, and distribute when it cools down.... Or let's just ship full blast while things are hot and people are getting busted...

**Woodrow1** · 12-12-2010, 08:32 PM

wish XXL forums were up >.<

**Mudge** · 12-12-2010, 09:37 PM

Bass, anyone who has been around (like yourself) knows that publicity is a no no. Remember DL back on the AnabolicParadise days? Similar situation, he got into some heat, and changed businesses... it happens.

Its a given, GenXXL has been in the waters before twice that I can recall and I'm sure I don't know all of the incidents by far.

**superted** · 12-12-2010, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by speed3

If I was a company trying to protect my customers I'd say the smartest thing to do would be take down the servers and redo everthing. Any you guys ever think about that? Maybe it's for ur safety!! Pull it all offline, backup info, and distribute when it cools down.... Or let's just ship full blast while things are hot and people are getting busted...

That is exactly what I would do hypothetically speaking of course

**World-Pharma.org** · 12-12-2010, 10:30 PM

Dear Dark Saney, your are real funny guy.

best-regards

wp

**The Deuce** · 12-12-2010, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by speed3

If I was a company trying to protect my customers I'd say the smartest thing to do would be take down the servers and redo everthing. Any you guys ever think about that? Maybe it's for ur safety!! Pull it all offline, backup info, and distribute when it cools down.... Or let's just ship full blast while things are hot and people are getting busted...

THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING THE WHOLE DAMNED TIME !! WHAT NO ONE LISTENS TO ME AROUND HERE ... LOL

**Catz00** · 12-12-2010, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Woodrow1

funk that.....they are too damn expensive

i see their prices.......and i honestly think someone must be pulling a joke

**stronger4ever** · 12-12-2010, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by Catz00

i see their prices.......and i honestly think someone must be pulling a joke

People actually pay those prices. The brand makes them feel secure. lol

**cavtrooper96** · 12-12-2010, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Catz00

i see their prices.......and i honestly think someone must be pulling a joke

I second that. You can go into walgreens and pay AWP+10 and still get it cheaper than WP during a buy one get one free special! And who cares if its human grade? You think my EQ is human grade? Horse grade bitches!@!!

**The Deuce** · 12-12-2010, 11:56 PM

THERE IS NO WAY IT IS HUMAN GRADE !! I AM SORRY I DON'T BELIEVE IT.. NOT SAYING IT'S BUNK.. But it is NOT FDA Approved.. it's just NOT.. he can't streamline and bullshit me.. I have been in this game for FAR TOO LONG !!

And.. just to be accurate.. YOU CAN GET 10ML'S of REAL Human Grade for 40-70bucks.. not at 17bucks an AMP !! It's insanity to pay those prices.. but to each their own.. whatever works for people to reach their goals.. I just KNOW I will never ever pay those kind of prices.. EVER !!

**Dark Geared God** · 12-13-2010, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Saney

I'm gonna start ordering from World-Pharma because they never get busted!!

Plus they have the only gear that is FDA approved..

**Grozny** · 12-13-2010, 04:52 AM

Up to the news in the german newspapers the head was living in germany (Bonn)

http://www.focus.de/magazin/kurzfass...id_580684.html

International drug ring smashed - GenXXL sales anabolic steroids, growth hormones and

Saturday, 12/11/2010, 09:00

Munich. With a raid around the globe, the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) have broken the public prosecutor in Bonn and foreign judicial authorities, an international ring of drug dealers. The news magazine FOCUS confirmed the Bonn public prosecutor Robin Faßbender the action was, but did not comment on details.

According to FOCUS, please identify the Rhine anti-doping since May 2008 against an organization called "GenXXL" which will have web sites anabolic steroids, growth hormones and sexual enhancer illegally sold in all continents. In addition to traditional GenXXL probably means to mask the use of anabolic steroids or attenuate the side effects.

The investigators discovered alone in the 32-year-old sales manager Ibrar GenXXL B. Bonn a database of more than 190,000 customers. The buyer had ordered preparations since May 2008 with a value of 12, 5 million U.S. dollars. The suspect, who is, according to the BKA as responsible for the shipping of doping substances, came last week in custody.

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