Thread: How 'bout this cycle

I would drop the deca and do 500mg test cycle.
Adex .5 EOD throughout and keep an eye on the gyno.
HCG @ 500iu twice a week starting week two.
2 weeks from last jab, clomid and nolva.

Problem I see here is 200mg deca althogh low is super suppressive on the HPTA and depending on the person, this might make recovery very difficult, keeping an AI in there for the testosterone (aromitizable steroid) will aid in recovery and supression, and with the HCG in there it will keep and maintain testicular function.
With your age, you might not bounce back as fast as you like.

I do like dbol but I love testosterone based cycles as recovery is not problematic as with other gears.

Originally Posted by hackskii

I would drop the deca and do 500mg test cycle.
Adex .5 EOD throughout and keep an eye on the gyno.
HCG @ 500iu twice a week starting week two.
2 weeks from last jab, clomid and nolva.

Problem I see here is 200mg deca althogh low is super suppressive on the HPTA and depending on the person, this might make recovery very difficult, keeping an AI in there for the testosterone (aromitizable steroid) will aid in recovery and supression, and with the HCG in there it will keep and maintain testicular function.
With your age, you might not bounce back as fast as you like.

I do like dbol but I love testosterone based cycles as recovery is not problematic as with other gears.

Do you think he might benefit from keeping the Deca especially if he lowers the dose to 200mg per week for joint pain relief/lubrication? I know that my joints felt immensely better when I added a moderate dose of Deca to a Test and D-bol cycle. Also, Dan Duchaine swore that any man 40 yoa plus should always add Deca in the stack. What do you think??

Well, I can say this with good authority, my bro did a nice deca cycle 600mg for 13 weeks, even did a PCT but for one year he had low test levels.

Another friend of mine was using deca, did not recovery and was put on TRT for life, now I am not saying some aggressive use of HCG, clomid and nolva and perhaps HMG might not have fixed this problem but months later he had low test levels.

Another friend of mine used deca (he was in his 50's) and didnt recover and was put on TRT.

That has to be one of the most if not the most supressive drug ever, its half life is one of the longest there is, its metabolites can be detected for a year or longer, and its supressive abilities kept my brothers testicular atrophy happening for 3 months from last jab.

I feel it is a good drug but best suited for lets say blast and cruise methods where you never really come off but ramp up then go to TRT levels so supression isnt a problem due to the fact you are replacing testosterone.

Honestly, same amount of gear deca vs test, testosterone is best, recovery far easier as well.
So many men have issues with recovery with deca, and it has such a long half life making start times with PCT a bit problematic.

Just me, but deca makes me really aggressive unlike other drugs with the exception of tren but I cant take mg per mg same as deca.

Me personally I would construct a cycle that yields good results paying attention to allowing recovery to be as fast as possible.
You wont get this with deca, but some guys just can use deca no problem.
Another alternitive would be NPP.

I appreciate the input. When I was in my 20's I didn't have any problem with recovery from Deca. And back then I didn't even know what PCT was. I wonder if the same would hold true now, or if I would be playing with fire. Just when I thought I had made up my mind with my cycle, someone comes along with some compelling input. Hmmm. Decisions Decisions. I like the idea of Deca helping me to keep my Dbol gains, but I also like getting my nuts back in action after a cycle.

Originally Posted by crudadillamonkey

I appreciate the input. When I was in my 20's I didn't have any problem with recovery from Deca. And back then I didn't even know what PCT was. I wonder if the same would hold true now, or if I would be playing with fire. Just when I thought I had made up my mind with my cycle, someone comes along with some compelling input. Hmmm. Decisions Decisions. I like the idea of Deca helping me to keep my Dbol gains, but I also like getting my nuts back in action after a cycle.

Not trying to sound like a prick but you're a lot older than you were in your twenties man. Things change with time. You would get a lot out of a test-e cycle considering how long you've been off. I think if your training and diet is on point you won't have any problems keeping your actual dbol gains (Lose the water keep the muscle).

Bump the test to 500 mg per week. Drop the deca idea. You will probably be disappointed with only 250 mg per week of test. IMO, you're better sticking to one compound at a moderate dosage rather than doing 2-3 compounds at low doseages. You can throw the dbol in there as a kickstart if you really feel you want to use it. Just $.02

Many guys choose Deca cycles to avoid hair loss (DHT) and gyno issues (non aromitizable steroid sides), but truth be told the shutdown is sick.
Test cycles are what we men produce naturally.
If hair loss is an issue then avoid the DHT conversion drugs and the DHT dirivitive drugs.
But, test is king, awesome for libido, pumps, strength, and if you keep or maintain the sides, a great alternitive or staple of a great cycle.

Its cheap, sides are well tollerable, and recovery is tame compared to many other drugs.
Yet results are awesome.

Me personally, I think all cycles should run or stack with testosterone.

I appreciate your guys input. I'm going to take the advice. No Deca. And 500 mg Test. Next time I'm going ask for input before placing my order. Do I have any use for the Deca, or is my buddy going to get some free gear.