Thread: RG's Cycle - Operation get swole and desirable

Might want to add in the previous cycles the cycle you're on now.

Why the bump to 750mg?

I might bump the dosage up to 40-50mg on the bol. I'm at 40 right now.

And why 1mg of adex? This seems really high. If that's what you're currently on maybe this is why you aren't seeing the gains that you desire?

Take it with a grain of salt as you know I'm just on week 2 of my first cycle. Those are just my observations. Maybe try some deca since you are planning a long cycle?

I'm gonna bump to 750 mg b/c I feel like I'm missing out on some gains and feel like I can handle a little more test. This is just an assumption b/c I don't have any test done to confirm this.

Currently doing Test E 500 mg. At Week 8 of 12. I kickstarted with tbol at 40 mg ed for about four weeks. I also added super dmz last week taking 10 mg every 12 hours.

I'm taking the high dose of adex b/c I had some gyno issues. I started at 0.5 mg eod but it wasn't enough. Plus I was retaining some water at the beginning of the cycle. You're prob right, the adex may have hindered some gains but I think I'm using a good amount for my goal which is to keep water down and to kill estrogen. I have nearly zero water right now at 1 mg adex.

I'm not too interested in deca. It's still an option but I'm looking more for the hard and vascular look so I chose EQ and anavar.

I might just start the dbol at 30 mg and increase it later depending on how I do on the 30 mg first. The tbol kinda gave me itchy nipples so I'd imagine the dbol will make it worse.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

I'm gonna bump to 750 mg b/c I feel like I'm missing out on some gains and feel like I can handle a little more test. This is just an assumption b/c I don't have any test done to confirm this.

Currently doing Test E 500 mg. At Week 8 of 12. I kickstarted with tbol at 40 mg ed for about four weeks. I also added super dmz last week taking 10 mg every 12 hours.

I'm taking the high dose of adex b/c I had some gyno issues. I started at 0.5 mg eod but it wasn't enough. Plus I was retaining some water at the beginning of the cycle. You're prob right, the adex may have hindered some gains but I think I'm using a good amount for my goal which is to keep water down and to kill estrogen. I have nearly zero water right now at 1 mg adex.

I'm not too interested in deca. It's still an option but I'm looking more for the hard and vascular look so I chose EQ and anavar.

I might just start the dbol at 30 mg and increase it later depending on how I do on the 30 mg first. The tbol kinda gave me itchy nipples so I'd imagine the dbol will make it worse.

Okay I know some people might freak out. But what about some tren? I think it's perfect for your goals.

I'm not very interested in Tren TBH. I'm way too much of a novice user for tren. Even after 5-10 cycles under my belt, I still won't have a desire to use tren. Test and another compound or two is plenty for me. Plus I can get pretty lean fairly quickly so cutting isn't my issue. Putting on mass and maintaining it is my biggest obstacle. Appreciate the suggestion though. I just don't think tren is something I want to use anytime in the immediate future but hey, you never know. It might happen in a year or two. Who knows what the future holds my friend.

Yeah I guess we are different body types. I know for a fact I want to run tren. Maybe even brew it.

I'm curious about the var though. A lot of people like it. I'm not real sure how I feel about it yet.

RG, I think that cycle is spot on. It looks good and I think you should run with it. I'm going to be running almost that same cycle in the near future, instead of EQ, I'm going to run Deca. You did your research.
How's that SuperDMZ treating you? Any good effects?

Cycle looks good man, I think your spot on. Depending on your sides you could test the water with more mg of dbol but that's your call.

I like heavyirons cycle he's got listed, if it's the same one i'm thinking of you increase test after 8-10 weeks? (I may be off on the weeks)

For cycle support check out "Cycle assist" by CEL, I've used it in PH cycles and with my last cycle, blood pressure never did raise even with high dose of dbol, although each person is different.

Good read man any before and after pics to come ????

Check out his cycle log bro.

Personally I wouldn't run 750mg of test with the dbol. You're going to retain water and then take more AI's to shed it so you're going to be combating whatever gains you get from 750/w by throwing enough AI's to damper the results where you might just be getting what you would on 500/w. The EQ will take a while to kick in, I wouldn't run under 400/w. Go somewhere between 400-600/w on it. I would do 500/w Test-E for the first 4-6 weeks THEN bump it up to 750. Run dbol 20-40mg/d depending on how you react to it.

I think you should run HCG. I've read where some people say it is OK at room temp for a while but I know vic (I think it was vic) is strongly against that statement. I would run 500iu e3d of HCG during the two weeks up to PCT at a minimum. But that is just me.

Originally Posted by Life

Personally I wouldn't run 750mg of test with the dbol. You're going to retain water and then take more AI's to shed it so you're going to be combating whatever gains you get from 750/w by throwing enough AI's to damper the results where you might just be getting what you would on 500/w. The EQ will take a while to kick in, I wouldn't run under 400/w. Go somewhere between 400-600/w on it. I would do 500/w Test-E for the first 4-6 weeks THEN bump it up to 750. Run dbol 20-40mg/d depending on how you react to it.

I think you should run HCG. I've read where some people say it is OK at room temp for a while but I know vic (I think it was vic) is strongly against that statement. I would run 500iu e3d of HCG during the two weeks up to PCT at a minimum. But that is just me.

Thanks for the feedback bro. I like the dmz so I'm thinking I might just drop the dbol and use dmz instead. And I like the pyramid idea. Maybe start with 500 mg of test and 400 mg of EQ and increase to 750 mg of test and 600 mg of EQ in say Week 8. I don't think I want to go over those doses though. Then finish ip the cycle with the Var. This is what I'm thinking:

Test E: Weeks 1-8 500 mg; Weeks 9-16 750 mg
EQ: Weeks 1-8 400 mg; Weeks 9-16 600 mg
Super DMZ: Weeks 1-4 20 or 30 mg daily
Anavar: Weeks 13-18 (use till PCT) 60-70 mg daily

ancillaries and pct as normal.

I'm gonna go back and read Heavy's pyramid thread and maybe rework into the cycle.

What do you guys think of frontloading? Some people love it and I saw some tests to prove that it actually does work.

You want to run the dbol. Trust me.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

You want to run the dbol. Trust me.

Nah I don't want the water weight. I think the dmz will have similar effects as the dbol but drier. Also, I think that may be one reason why I'm only up 12 lbs this cycle. Most of the guys that gained 20+ lbs all used dbol and prob gained mostly water. I think if I took dbol this cycle and retained some water, I would be up over 15 lbs and maybe upwards of 20 lbs which would be about what most people gain. I'd rather put on more quality muscle at a lower rate than a bunch of water that will be lost post cycle. My strength is way up so
I'm happy with that element of my gains. But you never know. I'm sure I'll change my mind again and add dbol in there lol.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

Nah I don't want the water weight. I think the dmz will have similar effects as the dbol but drier. Also, I think that may be one reason why I'm only up 12 lbs this cycle. Most of the guys that gained 20+ lbs all used dbol and prob gained mostly water. I think if I took dbol this cycle and retained some water, I would be up over 15 lbs and maybe upwards of 20 lbs which would be about what most people gain. I'd rather put on more quality muscle at a lower rate than a bunch of water that will be lost post cycle. My strength is way up so
I'm happy with that element of my gains. But you never know. I'm sure I'll change my mind again and add dbol in there lol.

Why would you care if you gained 5lbs of water if it allowed you to lift heavier and in return gain and keep more muscle? You piss it out afterwards anyway.

Maybe this is just the way I think cause I don't have a stupidly ripped 6-pack.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Check out his cycle log bro.

Thats what I thought this was aaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggg lol links or location ????

Retaining water gives me bloat face which I hate. But my strength is way up so I'm happy with that. You should seriously give the dmz a try. Don't knock it bc it's legal. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.