Thread: FYI tren isn't the best bulker

Its your diet then m8.

Tren only works in Good high calories diet.

Originally Posted by blazeftp

Its your diet then m8.

Tren only works in Good high calories diet.

werd small fry, you're not eating enough. I put on 19lbs on test/tren after 7 weeks

Ok thanx for the replies. Here's my usual diet. Meal 1: 3 whites 3 yolks cup oats or 3 slice toast with PB or bagel creme cheese. Meal 2: weight gainer 600cals per shake. Meal 3: turkey footlong with sun chips or chicken breast yams cheese something along those lines. Meal 4: gainer shake. Meal 5: fish yams/bread avocado. Meal:6 gainer shake. Meal 7 b4 bed: gainer shake. Thanx for the help bros.

i jus came off of a test/tren cycle and from week 5 to week 8 i had only gainedd like 5 kba and 12 overall for the cycle once i tuned my diet and started to eat more food and less shakes i packed on the size and ended up puttin 11 more lbs from week8 to 14, i am no diet expert but u have alot of shaked try countin calories,proteins,carbs it comes in handy in ensuring ur eating enough

Your getting most of your cals from a shake. It needs to be from whole food. Not the same. Replace the cals from the shake with food and you will see a difference I bet.

Tren is usually for a strength/cutter cycle. You gotta up the cals to be effective for a bulker.

Originally Posted by cavtrooper96

Your getting most of your cals from a shake. It needs to be from whole food. Not the same. Replace the cals from the shake with food and you will see a difference I bet.

Tren is usually for a strength/cutter cycle. You gotta up the cals to be effective for a bulker.

yeah man, flag the weight gainer shakes - especially the commercial ones.

I'm not sure it's been refered to as the best bulker.

i have only run a cycle with test and eq, and test/tren and tren by far put more size on me and reduced body fat and made my skin tight, itmay not be the best bulker but def does not let u down in terms of size and strength

I LOVE tren. Mainly for the sick pumps, ridiculous strength gains and quality mass that stays after PCT. But yes, you need to eat more. Forget the shakes except pre and post workout for that quick infusion of protein. Eat more quality food. That should help. I ran a 60 day cycle of tren and gained 13lbs, while reducing my bf% so something is off.

Originally Posted by EOD

I'm not saying it's not a good bulker just not the best of'em. I'm on my 7 week is 500mg sustanon and 200mg tren-E a week and eating like a beast with no weight gain. Only 10lbs which is usually water. It seems like I'm getting leaner and stronger but not too much size. I am an endomorph BTW so it should be easier for me. I'm also on my 3rd month of 2iu ED growth. My job is very active/physical. Anyone else have this prob with tren?

I don't know bro but by what you say it doesn't seem to me that you are an endomorph. Otherwise you would be gaining at least some fat from your diet. Unless you over train there is no reason for you not to gain weight(Unless your gear is bad/underdosed). I think your diet could be better, you can actually eat more calories eating cleaner. Don't waste your money too much on weight gainers, I mean they do help but I wouldn't replace more than one meal a day. Solid real foods work better and they help you put on better quality weight.

I use tren to both bulk and cut. It's how you use it in conjunction with your kitchen that counts. Good info guys.


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Originally Posted by eod

i'm not saying it's not a good bulker just not the best of'em. I'm on my 7 week is 500mg sustanon and 200mg tren-e a week and eating like a beast with no weight gain. Only 10lbs which is usually water. It seems like i'm getting leaner and stronger but not too much size. I am an endomorph btw so it should be easier for me. I'm also on my 3rd month of 2iu ed growth. My job is very active/physical. Anyone else have this prob with tren?

lol!

Originally Posted by heavyiron

lol!

True I didn't catch that. I think 400mg is the minimum to notice the effects of enanthate

Originally Posted by stronger4ever

True I didn't catch that. I think 400mg is the minimum to notice the effects of enanthate

I've heard of people running at 300/wk and being okay. If it were me, I'd start at 300. Call me pussy. I don't care. I like my dick to be hard and 8hrs of sleep.

I notice alot from 200mg. More isn't always better. Night sweats, vivid dreams, short fuse. It's wrking no doubt and it's legit been getting from a guy in the states face to face. His var is insaine BTW. I'm going to try ur suggestions fellas thanx for the help. Anyone else have bulking experience with tren?

i ran tren this past summer at 400mgs along with test at about 500mgs and i put on 27 lbs biggest i have ever been on it but i was stuck for a while because i wasnt eating enough so onc ei ate more whole foods and less shakes i packed on the lbs

Like the others have stated:

1 - Too many shakes. It should be 2 at most, one while training and one PWO. Everything else should be solid food.

2 - UP the calories.

500mg of Sust doesn't seem like a lot either. And for my first Tren cycle I ran it at 350mg EW. Remember enanthates take 4-5 weeks to kick in.

Tren was the best cycle I had ever run. Not sure what your issue is bro.
I will again reinforce what everyone else is saying. Less shakes, more real food.
A lot of those shakes are complete garbage IMO

ok thanx for the help. 2 shakes it is. I dnt wanna go any higher on the dosages. I'm 21 198 5'7". Been training 8 years.

lol yeah bump the tren up to 325. Tren is versatile. You can look shredded or bulk. Depends what youre eating and what else youre stacking. Throw some drol in for shits and giggles and see if that helps.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

I've heard of people running at 300/wk and being okay. If it were me, I'd start at 300. Call me pussy. I don't care. I like my dick to be hard and 8hrs of sleep.

I've never gotten sides from tren. But I've only done enanthate. I think acetate can be worse.

Originally Posted by stronger4ever

I've never gotten sides from tren. But I've only done enanthate. I think acetate can be worse.

I've only heard it the other way around.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

I've only heard it the other way around.

I think acetate has more sides because it is released fast into the system while enanthate has a more slow release. It also takes longer to see the results. On the other hand if you experience sides from tren and you do enanthate youre screwed because you need to wait for it to get off your system. The sides of acetate go away very soon after you stop.

Thanx alot for the input. What do u think about bumping up my test instead if tren? Not looking forward to more sweating.

Week 7 is perfect for increasing dose due to myostatin levels. I would definitely raise dose now.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Week 7 is perfect for increasing dose due to myostatin levels. I would definitely raise dose now.

How can you determine myostatin levels?

Originally Posted by stronger4ever

How can you determine myostatin levels?

Diagnosis/testing. Skeletal muscle size in an individual with myostatin-related muscle hypertrophy is measured by ultrasound examination, DEXA, or MRI. Subcutaneous fat pad thickness is measured by ultrasound or with a caliper. Molecular genetic testing for MSTN, the only gene known to be associated with myostatin-related muscle hypertrophy, is available on a research basis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK1498/

Originally Posted by stronger4ever

on the other hand if you experience sides from tren and you do enanthate youre screwed because you need to wait for it to get off your system. The sides of acetate go away very soon after you stop.

this!


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