Thread: debating on first cycle

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I wouldn't use it given your age and history of a short temper. I generally have a short temper myself but I've learned to control it. You will be more edgy on gear. At least I am, especially while driving. I have no patience for small things. My gf thinks I've been a jerk since I've been on but she doesn't even know I'm on. Good luck and def do not take tren if you have a short fuse.

How long have you been lifting? How bad is your aggression? Give us an example.

Originally Posted by Alstin

Ok so my stats are 21, 5'10, 208, bf 12-13%. First and for most i am aware that i should hold off for a few more years before gettin into aas but i feel as though i am ready. So what i want input on is the one thing i am worried about. That is aggression that goes along with it. i am an agressive person without aas and already have some what of a short fuse. So i want to know if any of you think this will present a significant problem. Oh and by the way i plan on taking 500 mg test e for 12 weeks

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First Cycle and PCT

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Read stickies and wait till 25. You are still producing a lot of test naturally. Dont shut your shit down and make yourself have to be on TRT for the rest of your life.

I know youre thinking ah your full of it. That wont happen or Ill be fine. So go ahead and do it and remember 10-15 years from now I told you so!

I'm curious, you say "I think I'm ready for it". Just wondering what it is that makes you think you're ready? I saw excellent gains from 25-28 years old with no aas. Just old fashion eating, training, sleeping and protein shakes. I think at 21, you're still growing and can continue to use your youth to your advantage. Do you really want to be 35 with limp dick and telling your doctor how you don't have any sexual drive?

Hahaha yeah reading the stickies did not help one bit. I know all the negative things that could happen from starting at an early age. All i really wanted was input on the agressive part of it. The main reason why i want to start early and this is prob going to be first on here is i want to be a pro bull rider. i think with some chemical help i could definatly make it happen

Originally Posted by CanadaGear

How long have you been lifting? How bad is your aggression? Give us an example.

I have been liftin since i was 14. My aggression has actually gotten better these past few years but is still a lil over the edge. Just about everytime i go out to the bar i get in a fight even if im not drinking

Originally Posted by Alstin

I have been liftin since i was 14. My aggression has actually gotten better these past few years but is still a lil over the edge. Just about everytime i go out to the bar i get in a fight even if im not drinking

That will change as you get older. I use to get in fights all the time up until I was about 27-28. If you're getting into a lot of fights without AAS, it's probably not a good idea to use it It will just make you feel like Superman and think you can kick everyone's ass. I personally don't think it's a good idea for you to use but that's just my opinion. I know when I was 21, I was naive and if someone told me not to do it, I would do just the opposite. As you grow older and find yourself in a lot of predicaments that aren't always favorable for you, you start to learn from your mistakes. But taking gear at 21, there are some long-term effects that you can't undo and will have to live with the rest of your life. Getting into fights at 21 is no big deal to me. Boys will be boys and a black eye will heal or the bloody nose will stop bleeding. But when you start messing with your hormones, that's a completely different ballgame.

Originally Posted by Alstin

I have been liftin since i was 14. My aggression has actually gotten better these past few years but is still a lil over the edge. Just about everytime i go out to the bar i get in a fight even if im not drinking

This in itself displays your immaturity and another reason NOT to take AAS just yet. And before you get defensive, I was exactly the same as you at your age, fighting every chance I got. AAS only made this worse because they do heighten aggression. Listen to golfer, that's some good advice.

I definatly understand where you guys are coming from. all of you are right i shouldn't even be thinkin about this at my age plus with my temper but its just so damn tempting. I have alot of friends that are cycling and the results are just so unreal. The one part of it that i dont understand is how come starting at 21 opposed to 25 the chance of long term effects are so much different. Is it just because if you start earlier the more you will do later?

Originally Posted by Alstin

I have been liftin since i was 14. My aggression has actually gotten better these past few years but is still a lil over the edge. Just about everytime i go out to the bar i get in a fight even if im not drinking

Yea I'd say AS is not for you at this point of your life. If you can't control yourself when you're sober its a problem. I think you should get get a grip on that first. You've been lifting long enough but at 21 you can still grow naturally. Listen to what the guys are saying.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

I'm curious, you say "I think I'm ready for it". Just wondering what it is that makes you think you're ready? I saw excellent gains from 25-28 years old with no aas. Just old fashion eating, training, sleeping and protein shakes. I think at 21, you're still growing and can continue to use your youth to your advantage. Do you really want to be 35 with limp dick and telling your doctor how you don't have any sexual drive?

You are a jerk though.


OP, I'm not going to tell you it's wrong cause I'm not much older than you. However I am much more mature. Don't take it the wrong way, just sayin...

Just really make sure you want to do it before you do. I researched for over a year before I made the leap.

Thanks for the input fellas your right i do need to calm down a bit before i jump into it

Ah, do a anavar cycle, that wont make you aggressive, the gains are mild but so are the sides.
Recovery wont be hard from that and you wont need to take an AI during.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

I'm curious, you say "I think I'm ready for it". Just wondering what it is that makes you think you're ready? I saw excellent gains from 25-28 years old with no aas. Just old fashion eating, training, sleeping and protein shakes. I think at 21, you're still growing and can continue to use your youth to your advantage. Do you really want to be 35 with limp dick and telling your doctor how you don't have any sexual drive?

Answer this please, I'd like to help but I would like to hear this explained first, thanks and welcome.

I dont have a problem with guys wanting to use gear, suggesting they want to do a cycle will no doubt end up doing a cycle.
At least if we steer them in the right direction they wont go it on their own.

I tried to talk a 19 year old out of a cycle with a very compelling arguement, he didnt say anymore and did his own.
30mg dbol for 6 weeks and he had a nice gyno lump to show.
If he was given direction first, that never would have happened.
I am all for suggesting going the natural side, but then there are guys on every board that say dont that did early.

Originally Posted by CT

Answer this please, I'd like to help but I would like to hear this explained first, thanks and welcome.

Ive trained natty for 6 years, my diet is strict, and my training regime is on point. I want to take it to the next level with anabolics

Originally Posted by Alstin

Ive trained natty for 6 years, my diet is strict, and my training regime is on point. I want to take it to the next level with anabolics

Post up your diet and training routine.