Thread: Tren ace problems!!!!

It's your diet.

When you eat carbs the tren ignites them causing the "heat" in which you speak of.

I've never heard of the itching.

Originally Posted by CT

It's your diet.

When you eat carbs the tren ignites them causing the "heat" in which you speak of.

I've never heard of the itching.

Thanks, the heat is not really the big issue here...i can deal with it, i kind of like that part. The itching that comes along with the heat is whats driving me litteraly insane, when i say that i mean it!

Not for nothing but someone close to me passed away from liver cancer and one of the early symptoms was intense aggravating itching. If you had some orals in your stack maybe it would be good to get liver values checked just to rule that out hopefully. But you said results of bloodwork are pending so perhaps that's something the doc is checking on as well.

Originally Posted by BigBird

Not for nothing but someone close to me passed away from liver cancer and one of the early symptoms was intense aggravating itching. If you had some orals in your stack maybe it would be good to get liver values checked just to rule that out hopefully. But you said results of bloodwork are pending so perhaps that's something the doc is checking on as well.

Wow hate to hear that, yes he is checking everything from liver to you name it...i dont think it is my liver but you never know. By the way my doc knows everything about my AAS use and this is why he is doing all these tests to see what is causing it...thanks!

ANY input at all is appreciated!

I know what you mean. Tren is notorious for such side effects, that's why we encourage candidates to start off with real low doses. How much are you running? Some might say to donate blood....I suggest lowering your dose and see how that works. It may be overdosed (doubt it though).


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Did you switch brands or have you ran this particular product before ? i'm gonna guess this has to be a new source.

sounds like you are having an allergic reaction. What other hormones are you running with the tren ?

seems your source may have gotten contaminated powder possibly, but it would seem that there would be more than one person with similar problems.

If you haven't, I would stop everything, even supplements.

Originally Posted by VictorZ06

I know what you mean. Tren is notorious for such side effects, that's why we encourage candidates to start off with real low doses. How much are you running? Some might say to donate blood....I suggest lowering your dose and see how that works. It may be overdosed (doubt it though).


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I was running it at 75mg/ml ED then cut it back to 75mg EOD that didnt do the trick so i cut it back to 50mg EOD so i dont really know what to do, tried all i know...just hope that someone on here has experienced this itching shit as i have and come up with something. I have had some sides in the past with tren like the sweats and such but with this cycle so far, i get really hot and itchy but have not sweated but maybe twice during a workout since the tren has kicked in...dont know man, i love tren but right now it is hating me. I know its good, i am getting results but the itching part is no where near worth the results! I cant even finish haveing sex before i go into this prickling itching feeling, its bad!

Originally Posted by ROID

Did you switch brands or have you ran this particular product before ? i'm gonna guess this has to be a new source.

sounds like you are having an allergic reaction. What other hormones are you running with the tren ?

seems your source may have gotten contaminated powder possibly, but it would seem that there would be more than one person with similar problems.

If you haven't, I would stop everything, even supplements.

I get my Tren and Tren only from a trusted friend that i have seen him make it as i have made it myself. He makes it from the fina pellets and it is real legit stuff, no one else is having this problem just me that i know of and i know there is alot of it going around here...

I dono bro, something might have went wrong with the cooking. Is your friend using the same batch of tren??


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Originally Posted by ROID

Did you switch brands or have you ran this particular product before ? i'm gonna guess this has to be a new source.

sounds like you are having an allergic reaction. What other hormones are you running with the tren ?

seems your source may have gotten contaminated powder possibly, but it would seem that there would be more than one person with similar problems.

If you haven't, I would stop everything, even supplements.

Sorry about that I am running sus325 from axio and i kicked it all off with some Dbol from Axio and some GP Anadrol...I am also running test prop ED at 100mg. plan on dropping the sus at the end last month and bump the prop up to about 150mg ED and throw some winni in at 50-70mg....damn this itch, i can get it setting at the computer sometimes if i get hot, that is how bad it is, not a normal itch it is like pins and needles coming through my skin.

Originally Posted by VictorZ06

I dono bro, something might have went wrong with the cooking. Is your friend using the same batch of tren??


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Yes, same batch...we have been using this same source for the pellets and everything else for about 2 years now, weird as hell!

BP

Keep us posted with the blood work results. Hopefully, it's got nothing to do with your liver. Would your friend be willing to let you sample another batch just to see if you get same itching dilemma?

He and others that i know that are using this are not getting this side effect at all, it sucks for now but i guess when all the blood work comes back we should be able to tell something from that. The doctor said that tren raises your red blood count cells and creates more and the ones they create are not strong enough to compete with the others and when i get this hot flash and start itching it is coming from all of the sudden the lost of red blood cells because of the ones that the tren ace created are not strong enough to do what they are meant to do...i cant really go into details i am just telling you all that i remember him saying about it...you ever heard of that?

Originally Posted by bigpapa101

Sorry about that I am running sus325 from axio and i kicked it all off with some Dbol from Axio and some GP Anadrol...I am also running test prop ED at 100mg. plan on dropping the sus at the end last month and bump the prop up to about 150mg ED and throw some winni in at 50-70mg....damn this itch, i can get it setting at the computer sometimes if i get hot, that is how bad it is, not a normal itch it is like pins and needles coming through my skin.

Just read your post about taking both D-Bol AND Anadrol? You're not really taking two 17a-a toxic orals are you? If so, the combined toxicity to your liver would be through the roof. Never take two 17a-a compounds simultaneously. If you are no longer taking the D-bol nor Anadrol, you might be experiencing some short-term effects of stressed liver which includes severe needle-like itching.

Originally Posted by BigBird

Keep us posted with the blood work results. Hopefully, it's got nothing to do with your liver. Would your friend be willing to let you sample another batch just to see if you get same itching dilemma?

im sure he would, i have more...i tried some from an old batch and still am getting the same sides. very very irritating since i love this product so much you know what i mean, ill keep you posted!

Originally Posted by BigBird

Just read your post about taking both D-Bol AND Anadrol? You're not really taking two 17a-a toxic orals are you? If so, the combined toxicity to your liver would be through the roof. Never take two 17a-a compounds simultaneously. If you are no longer taking the D-bol nor Anadrol, you might be experiencing some short-term effects of stressed liver which includes severe needle-like itching.

I know you are not suppose to take them both at the same time but i have for so long to kick start cycles it has kind of became a habit you know what i mean? I did Anadrol at 25mg ED and Dbol at 30 mg ED, all and all it all equals out to about the same...i do this for the first 4-6 weeks of my cycles. I hope this is not what it is, i doubt it but then again you never know..thanks for the feed back!

D-bol is actually stronger mg per mg than Anadrol but they can't be compared in the sense that you are "only" taking 55mg of oral aas ED. They're still two different compounds. Taking them togerther is similar to presenting a razor balde to your liver for processing. You said it's been a habit and over time certain liver ailments/damage cannot be reversed. I really hope you're in the clear regarding the liver. The liver is very resilient and tough but in the future, be nice to the liver and only take either the 'Drol or the Dbol for 4-6 weeks. That is unless you L-values are elevated then you'll have to eliminate the orals. Hope things turn out ok for ya.

Originally Posted by BigBird

D-bol is actually stronger mg per mg than Anadrol but they can't be compared in the sense that you are "only" taking 55mg of oral aas ED. They're still two different compounds. Taking them togerther is similar to presenting a razor balde to your liver for processing. You said it's been a habit and over time certain liver ailments/damage cannot be reversed. I really hope you're in the clear regarding the liver. The liver is very resilient and tough but in the future, be nice to the liver and only take either the 'Drol or the Dbol for 4-6 weeks. That is unless you L-values are elevated then you'll have to eliminate the orals. Hope things turn out ok for ya.

Thanks and i will keep you posted...plus anyone else that has experienced this help would be great!

Dbol and Anadrol is pretty popular stack havnt had issues other than the drol being a bit of an appetite killer, I also have tren ace in there and this pins and needles thing is not something I've had or seen before

Originally Posted by bigpapa101

I get my Tren and Tren only from a trusted friend that i have seen him make it as i have made it myself. He makes it from the fina pellets and it is real legit stuff, no one else is having this problem just me that i know of and i know there is alot of it going around here...

tren pellets is always the best option, IMO. I would prefer the pellets even over Tren powder. I know EXACTLY what is in the pellets. Who knows what kind of impurities are in the powders.

Bro, being that you are using a few other items, its going to be hard to say what the problem is. Have you used all the other hormones before ? Is this the first time you have used anything from your source this time ?

It would be nice if you could eliminate one hormone at a time until the side effects subside but I would take this very serious. You body is having a bad reaction to something. People have went into Anaphylactic shock for something as seemingly harmless as a big sting.

I would stop everything, EVERYTHING and wait until the blood work comes back. Be honest with your doctor about everything. Don't be afraid to tell him. Plenty of time to run gear in the future.

Think about any changes in you diet or habits. Ask you friend if he done anything different ? What size filter did he use ? did he only filter once ? is it possible he blew out a filter because he put too much pressure ? I've made a lot of tren and even when using a larger .45um filter i apply only enough pressure for 1 or 2 drips per second MAX. Did he use a kit ?, BTW, those kits are shit. you dont need them and you have no clue as to what the dose is

last, everyone is going to have an opinion on here and most of them are very good ones but I don't know of anyone that has a M.D. I would focus on accurate information and don't let me or anything else cloud your judgment. Keep us informed. this could be useful information for everyone

I fear you may have a problem with your liver. What you are describing sounds very much like Jaundice. Jaundice is also accompanied by intense itching and is a result of liver damage or scarring. These are also symptoms of Cholestasis....any condition in which the flow of bile from the liver is blocked. Have you had any of these symptoms.....

Nausea
Vomiting
Abdominal pain
Loss of appetite
Diarrhea
Tiredness
Weakness
Yellow eyes
Yellow skin
Dark urine
Swelling in feet


If so....get to your doc ASAP.


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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

I fear you may have a problem with your liver. What you are describing sounds very much like Jaundice. Jaundice is also accompanied by intense itching and is a result of liver damage or scarring. These are also symptoms of Cholestasis....any condition in which the flow of bile from the liver is blocked. Have you had any of these symptoms.....

Nausea
Vomiting
Abdominal pain
Loss of appetite
Diarrhea
Tiredness
Weakness
Yellow eyes
Yellow skin
Dark urine
Swelling in feet


If so....get to your doc ASAP.


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Only sides besides the itching is the tiredness and dark urine, none of the others...yall got me scared now. Trust me i am very anxious for all the blood test to come back! I have quit taking the tren completly now for a week and stopped the prop and only been doing the sus325 two shots a week. Still getting the itching so idk!

Originally Posted by superted

Dbol and Anadrol is pretty popular stack havnt had issues other than the drol being a bit of an appetite killer, I also have tren ace in there and this pins and needles thing is not something I've had or seen before

I was following your journal documenting goal of benching 500lbs and I noticed a couple people gave you a hard time/disagreed with your stacking of the two. I know you weren't recommending your routine to anyone else, you were just documenting your own routine but do think there is potential for real damage caused by stacking multiple 17a orals?

Originally Posted by bigpapa101

Only sides besides the itching is the tiredness and dark urine, none of the others...yall got me scared now. Trust me i am very anxious for all the blood test to come back! I have quit taking the tren completly now for a week and stopped the prop and only been doing the sus325 two shots a week. Still getting the itching so idk!

Sorry BP but the dark urine also is a strong indicator of a liver issue. How's the color of your eye whites and skin?

Originally Posted by bigpapa101

Only sides besides the itching is the tiredness and dark urine, none of the others...yall got me scared now. Trust me i am very anxious for all the blood test to come back! I have quit taking the tren completly now for a week and stopped the prop and only been doing the sus325 two shots a week. Still getting the itching so idk!

you really need to stop everything. Putting a cycle on hold for a few weeks isn't a big deal.

If you have insurance or even if you don't I would go and describe your symptoms to another doctor.

Chances are its nothing Bro.

Originally Posted by bigpapa101

Only sides besides the itching is the tiredness and dark urine, none of the others...yall got me scared now. Trust me i am very anxious for all the blood test to come back! I have quit taking the tren completly now for a week and stopped the prop and only been doing the sus325 two shots a week. Still getting the itching so idk!

Bro...I don't want to get you nervous, but dark urine is not a very good sign at all. I would stop everything and seek real medical advice as soon as you can. Like right now. Keep us posted.



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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

Bro...I don't want to get you nervous, but dark urine is not a very good sign at all. I would stop everything and seek real medical advice as soon as you can. Like right now. Keep us posted.



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x2!

the dark urine is no more than the dark urine i would get when i normally run tren though, but i do see where you are coming from....my eyes look good. Im going to call my doctor.