Thread: First cycle advice.

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Beginner Cycle #1 - Mass by TwisT

Weeks 1-10: Test E or C 500mg/week
Weeks 1-5: Dianabol 25mg/day
Weeks 1-10: Aromasin 12.5mg ed
Weeks 1-10: HCG: 1,000 iu/week split into 2 or 3 doses.
Week 12: Begin PCT



-T

Kept 15lbs on a sim. Cycle
1-4 wks 40mg dbol
Test e 12 wk 500mg, 250mg x2 each wk
Arimdrex 1-4 wk 1mg ed , 5-12wk .5mg ed
13 off, 14-17 wk .25 mg ed
Hcg 500 iu x 2 a wk.

Adjust it a little nxt run tho

W pct also 14wk 100mg ed clomid
Wk 15-17 50 mg ed clomid

looking good bro I think your to young but if you are going to do it get blood work done you might be suprised where your test levels are at now

Is that more of a mass cycle? It also says mass right in the title... My main question is for lean gains without putting on alot of weight/bloat is a cycle of test cyp only at a low dose a good choice or would i be better off with something else for what im looking to do? Im not against another choice for a first cycle but through reading everyone always recommends test for first timer's, plus i also have it available.. So say i do a low dose of test and keep my calories around maintenance 3000/day.. is a test only cycle at a low dose a good choice for lean gains.. the workout plan i would run would be high volume also.

A low dose of cyp is fine w no dbol imo to avoid bloat....maybe tbol just to a kickstart. RightOn is correct dont rush into something . You are just hittn the age have you used creatine yet

If you only want a few "lean gain" pounds, then the AAS section isn't where you belong. You can easily do that without AAS. You weigh 190 pounds with 14% bodyfat. A proper diet + training plan to drop your bodyfat and build muscle is what you need.

-T

Originally Posted by TwisT

If you only want a few "lean gain" pounds, then the AAS section isn't where you belong. You can easily do that without AAS. You weigh 190 pounds with 14% bodyfat. A proper diet + training plan to drop your bodyfat and build muscle is what you need.

-T

I might be wrong but i don't consider 12-15 pounds a few, My body fat is alot lower since i restarted boxing especially since most was in my stomach from all the boozing so I"m prob around 10-12%max. Don't get me wrong i wanna put on size i just dont wanna blow up.

A test only cycle with an AI to prevent bloat will put a solid 10 pounds on you after PCT. Take that cycle I posted, remove dbol from it, and bam. Make sure you eat enough and your training is on par.

-T

Originally Posted by TwisT

A test only cycle with an AI to prevent bloat will put a solid 10 pounds on you after PCT. Take that cycle I posted, remove dbol from it, and bam. Make sure you eat enough and your training is on par.

-T

Thanks man. I appreciate the feedback

Originally Posted by Dath

A low dose of cyp is fine w no dbol imo to avoid bloat....maybe tbol just to a kickstart. RightOn is correct dont rush into something . You are just hittn the age have you used creatine yet

Never had bloodwork done will check it out before i start anything.. yea i used creating from LifeExtensions brand before weight fluctuated up and then back down after. -i don't have enough posts to PM

Right ON bro smart man right there

Best of luck bro, look into that bloodwork like Right on,mentioned ...still curious too ok pm when u can