Thread: Cutting from 264 to 200

Originally Posted by Sanisent

I've been weight training for about a year and a half now. Originally I weighed 309 when I started working out and have cut down a good bit. Now I'd like to finish up cutting to 200 and be in good shape for an AAS cycle.

Age: 19
Height: 6'
Starting weight:264lbs
Experience: 1.5years
1rep max: 235 flat bench / 130 barbell curl

Diet: Trying to keep calories around 2500-3000 range. Mostly fibrous carbs, protein from chicken/beef/shakes.

Supps:
Using GP clen for 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off
Gaspari Nutrition Anavite multivitamin (2 pills in the morning and 2 at night).
BSN Cellmass- 1 scoop in the morning.
EPI-STRONG (epistane) - 30mg 1hour before workout, for 30days followed by clomid for 2weeks.
Forma Stanozol - On cycle PCT 4 pumps in the morning and 4 at night.

Training:
Sun - cardio (HIT)
Mon - arms
Tues - cardio (HIT)
wed - chest
thurs - cardio (HIT)
fri - Back
Sat - off

Goal: Lose 2-3 lbs per week, and be in good shape for an AAS cycle.

You are much too young for prohormones. You run the risk of your epiphyseal plates fusing early and stunting your growth. Also, screwing up you endocrine system. Not too mention, you have plenty of free test roaming about your body at age 19. You DO NOT need Epistane or any other PH at your age. Train hard, eat clean, do cardio, you will lose the weight that way and not screw up your body.

Originally Posted by GMO

You are much too young for prohormones. You run the risk of your epiphyseal plates fusing early and stunting your growth. Also, screwing up you endocrine system. Not too mention, you have plenty of free test roaming about your body at age 19. You DO NOT need Epistane or any other PH at your age. Train hard, eat clean, do cardio, you will lose the weight that way and not screw up your body.

X2!!! Don't cycle any AAS prior to 23-24 yoa. No exceptions. Notice the progress you've made? Keep doing what you're doing and in the next 5 years you'll make even more progress. Then and only then will you be ready to consider putting together an aas cycle.

Originally Posted by Sanisent

I've been weight training for about a year and a half now. Originally I weighed 309 when I started working out and have cut down a good bit. Now I'd like to finish up cutting to 200 and be in good shape for an AAS cycle.

Age: 19
Height: 6'
Starting weight:264lbs
Experience: 1.5years
1rep max: 235 flat bench / 130 barbell curl

Diet: Trying to keep calories around 2500-3000 range. Mostly fibrous carbs, protein from chicken/beef/shakes.

Supps:
Using GP clen for 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off
Gaspari Nutrition Anavite multivitamin (2 pills in the morning and 2 at night).
BSN Cellmass- 1 scoop in the morning.
EPI-STRONG (epistane) - 30mg 1hour before workout, for 30days followed by clomid for 2weeks.
Forma Stanozol - On cycle PCT 4 pumps in the morning and 4 at night.

Training:
Sun - cardio (HIT)
Mon - arms
Tues - cardio (HIT)
wed - chest
thurs - cardio (HIT)
fri - Back
Sat - off

Goal: Lose 2-3 lbs per week, and be in good shape for an AAS cycle.

No legs or shoulders?

if you're trying to lose alot of weight then training legs a couple times a week in addition to your cardio is extremely important.....legs and back (squats,deadlifts) take up the most oxygen and get your heartrate going much much more than the smaller bodyparts........

i know im not a body builder im more into mma so i do alot of cardio aswell,any way my 2 cents would be quit training arms and stick to simple compound excercises that hit as many muscle groups as possible.

6 foot 200 lbs. That's skinny dude. I think if you are weight training your gonna have a hard time getting down that low. Good luck but you prolly aren't done growing yet.

I've decided to drop the Epistrong and add legs on Saturday. I forgot to clarify shoulders would be included on back day.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

There is so many things wrong with this. I do not feel like making my fingers bleed explaining it all to you so I wont. Just do yourself a favor and please resear for about 4 more years or more.

I researched from the time I was 23 and finally did it when i was 31. No reason to do any AAS before 25 and most should wait till 30!

Originally Posted by cavtrooper96

most should wait till 30!

Just cause you're a late bloomer don't bring us all down!

Originally Posted by cavtrooper96

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

There is so many things wrong with this. I do not feel like making my fingers bleed explaining it all to you so I wont. Just do yourself a favor and please resear for about 4 more years or more.

I researched from the time I was 23 and finally did it when i was 31. No reason to do any AAS before 25 and most should wait till 30!

Come on man, instead of pointing out all of the negative things why not help him out? If he takes the advice fine, if not....his loss.

Drop the cellmass. That's a meal replacement isn't it? You don't need to be taking that in the morning. Wake up a little earlier and make you some eggs and oats.

Ever look into T3?

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Drop the cellmass. That's a meal replacement isn't it? You don't need to be taking that in the morning. Wake up a little earlier and make you some eggs and oats.

Ever look into T3?

No, it's a creatine supplement.

I've already got clen, dont know about t3.

All you really need is a proper meal plan and workout...

-T

Originally Posted by CT

Come on man, instead of pointing out all of the negative things why not help him out? If he takes the advice fine, if not....his loss.

My apologies. I just get tired of young guys coming on here and posting na-na crap every day. Same new thread different young cat!

^ Don't stereotype us!

Originally Posted by cavtrooper96

My apologies. I just get tired of young guys coming on here and posting na-na crap every day. Same new thread different young cat!

Don't apologize. We were all "new" at one point.

I know what you mean though. I get all different PM's asking "What should I do....." (fill in the blank). I take the time to respond and type everything out only to see a thread pop up that basically contradicts and goes against everything I said. The question then becomes, why ask if you're not going to listen?

Frustrating indeed.

Originally Posted by CT

Don't apologize. We were all "new" at one point.

I know what you mean though. I get all different PM's asking "What should I do....." (fill in the blank). I take the time to respond and type everything out only to see a thread pop up that basically contradicts and goes against everything I said. The question then becomes, why ask if you're not going to listen?

Frustrating indeed.

Too many young bucks want to build Rome in a day and lack the attention span required to listen/learn.

Originally Posted by BigBird

Too many young bucks want to build Rome in a day and lack the attention span required to listen/learn.

I too was a real piece of work when I was young. I used AAS WAY to early and probably missed out on some additional growth. It is MUCH easier to look back and realize what a dumb ass I was. Fact is we can give sound advice to these young bucks, but some of them will be retards like I was anyway.

Originally Posted by GMO

I too was a real piece of work when I was young. I used AAS WAY to early and probably missed out on some additional growth. It is MUCH easier to look back and realize what a dumb ass I was. Fact is we can give sound advice to these young bucks, but some of them will be retards like I was anyway.

Same here GMO. Ex-dumbfucks like us are definately qualified to comment and criticize current dumbfucks. Did my first cycle at 20yrs old. One big clusterfuck of different things with unorthodox doses, no pct, etc. Big fish in a little pond I was. Part of my college education in Joe Snuffy-town, USA.

Originally Posted by BigBird

Same here GMO. Ex-dumbfucks like us are definately qualified to comment and criticize current dumbfucks.

For sure...spoken like a true ex-dumbfuck!

@ OP...

What's Ur BF like? I'm guessing it's still up there? Diet is the MAIN thing right now... Sure... Keep training, but getting Ur diet laid out is the single most important thing.

I guess I lack the patients with some of these cats since I wasnt dumb and did it right. I have studied AAS use for over 10 years and worked out during that time only taking creatine and dieting to get from 137lb to my current 215lb. I was 32 before I even touched any AAS.

UPDATE: While on the EPI it seemed like I was urinating every 3-4 hours.. waking up twice in a night to urinate, I'm not sure what the deal was. Still using clen for another week. Will post some new stats in a couple days. I'd also like to say thanks to a few of you for sending me a PM's and helping me out.

Originally Posted by Sanisent

UPDATE: While on the EPI it seemed like I was urinating every 3-4 hours.. waking up twice in a night to urinate, I'm not sure what the deal was. Still using clen for another week. Will post some new stats in a couple days. I'd also like to say thanks to a few of you for sending me a PM's and helping me out.

Only every 3-4 hours? i piss at least once an hour. you need to up your water. I consume about 2 gallons day of water. I get up 1-2 times at night to piss too.

Originally Posted by cavtrooper96

Only every 3-4 hours? i piss at least once an hour. you need to up your water. I consume about 2 gallons day of water. I get up 1-2 times at night to piss too.

I thought it might be prostate enlargement or something, but all is fine now.

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Originally Posted by Sanisent

I've been weight training for about a year and a half now. Originally I weighed 309 when I started working out and have cut down a good bit. Now I'd like to finish up cutting to 200 and be in good shape for an AAS cycle.

Age: 19
Height: 6'
Starting weight:264lbs
Experience: 1.5years
1rep max: 235 flat bench / 130 barbell curl

Diet: Trying to keep calories around 2500-3000 range. Mostly fibrous carbs, protein from chicken/beef/shakes.

Supps:
Using GP clen for 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off
Gaspari Nutrition Anavite multivitamin (2 pills in the morning and 2 at night).
BSN Cellmass- 1 scoop in the morning.
EPI-STRONG (epistane) - 30mg 1hour before workout, for 30days followed by clomid for 2weeks.
Forma Stanozol - On cycle PCT 4 pumps in the morning and 4 at night.

Training:
Sun - cardio (HIT)
Mon - arms
Tues - cardio (HIT)
wed - chest
thurs - cardio (HIT)
fri - Back
Sat - off

Goal: Lose 2-3 lbs per week, and be in good shape for an AAS cycle.

When do you workout your Delts?