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winny always helps me!

Originally Posted by klc9100

would this be a solid cycle?

week 1-5 / 500wk test e / 400wk EQ / 30day d-bol / 25eod aromasin
week 6-10 / 600wk test e / 400wk EQ / 25eod aromasin
week 11-15 / 700wk test e / 400wk EQ / 25eod aromasin

what would be something ood to run at the end to dry up some?

Seems like a nice stack KLC. As Crank mentioned, I'd consider adding Winny tabs 50mg ED for the last 6 weeks of cycle. If Winny not available, try the T-bol 30-40mg ED or Halo 20-40mg ED for weeks 10-15. All above substances are excellent for hardening up.

Winstrol has never done me wrong.

What are your goals and what is your BF% right now?

Dosing EQ 400->600 is known for a substantial increase in lean gain yields. Looks good. To answer your Q, Winny, Var.... take your pick.


-T

Originally Posted by CT

What are your goals and what is your BF% right now?

i'm at the end of a cycle right now (500wk test c & 6 weeks of super dmz). i've gained about 18lbs. i'm probably at around 18% bf right now.

my plan was to do pct, then recoup for another month and maybe start this cycle in early march. i like to have my stuff ahead of time (i actually already have most of it).

my goal is lean bulk/recomp. i don't want to add ALOT of mass, thus the relatively low doses. but at the same time, i've given up on ever being "ripped". it's just not my body type.

i've decided to add winny at the end. would 30mg per day for 6 weeks be enough to see any results? would you run it the last 6 weeks of your cycle, or the last 4 weeks and then 2 more weeks while the test/eq esters clear?

Up the winny dose to 50mg ED in divided doses. Run it the last 6 weeks. If you don't have enough winny for 6 weeks then run 50mg ED for the last 4 weeks. I would not run the winny while the test/eq esters are clearing.

damn. i just read that winny needs to be taken on an empty stomach. is that true? i don't do well taking shit without food.

Where did you read that? Never heard that before but interesting to know.

Originally Posted by BigBird

Up the winny dose to 50mg ED in divided doses. Run it the last 6 weeks. If you don't have enough winny for 6 weeks then run 50mg ED for the last 4 weeks. I would not run the winny while the test/eq esters are clearing.

Someone forgot to tell my body that b/c I've taken it with and w/out empty stomach and similar results. Since it's a 17aa oral I think it can still work its magic regardless.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

Where did you read that? Never heard that before but interesting to know.

Originally Posted by BigBird

Someone forgot to tell my body that b/c I've taken it with and w/out empty stomach and similar results. Since it's a 17aa oral I think it can still work its magic regardless.

read the 2nd paragraph:

http://www.napsgear.net/oral-steroid...trol-tabs--p57

Originally Posted by klc9100

damn. i just read that winny needs to be taken on an empty stomach. is that true? i don't do well taking shit without food.

My last post meant to quote the above post; not my own previous post. knucklehead move on my part.

gawd. . . i checked on var instead. that shit is high.

Winny needs to be taken on an empty stomach. Having food in your stomach will cause a decrease in the amount of winny that actually hits your bloodstream. The 17aa bond is for your liver and has nothing to do with blood absorption from food. Even a little bit of food in the stomach can cause this. So its best to take in the morning when you wake up.

Originally Posted by underscore

Winny needs to be taken on an empty stomach. Having food in your stomach will cause a decrease in the amount of winny that actually hits your bloodstream. The 17aa bond is for your liver and has nothing to do with blood absorption from food. Even a little bit of food in the stomach can cause this. So its best to take in the morning when you wake up.

Duly noted Underscore. Thanks. Would this be the same concept with any and all other orals?

Originally Posted by underscore

Winny needs to be taken on an empty stomach. Having food in your stomach will cause a decrease in the amount of winny that actually hits your bloodstream. The 17aa bond is for your liver and has nothing to do with blood absorption from food. Even a little bit of food in the stomach can cause this. So its best to take in the morning when you wake up.

does it matter if it's solid food or not? i mean, like would taking it along with my other vits & supps with a whey shake effect absorption negatively too?

i wonder how fast it absorbs, like how soon after taking it could you eat and it still work properly?

Originally Posted by underscore

Winny needs to be taken on an empty stomach. Having food in your stomach will cause a decrease in the amount of winny that actually hits your bloodstream. The 17aa bond is for your liver and has nothing to do with blood absorption from food. Even a little bit of food in the stomach can cause this. So its best to take in the morning when you wake up.

That's funny because I have some prescribed to me, and it says to take it with a full glass of water WITH or WITHOUT food.

Originally Posted by GMO

That's funny because I have some prescribed to me, and it says to take it with a full glass of water WITH or WITHOUT food.

Is it prescribed for angioedema? Maybe the empty stomach thing is just to be sure you're getting the most out of its anabolic/PE effect versus other FDA-approved uses?

Originally Posted by underscore

Winny needs to be taken on an empty stomach. Having food in your stomach will cause a decrease in the amount of winny that actually hits your bloodstream. The 17aa bond is for your liver and has nothing to do with blood absorption from food. Even a little bit of food in the stomach can cause this. So its best to take in the morning when you wake up.

This is totally and completely untrue.

Where did this information come from? Not flaming you just wondering.

You can take ANY oral with or without food it doesn't make a difference. Grapefruit juice has been known to increase the potency of some orals.

Originally Posted by GMO

That's funny because I have some prescribed to me, and it says to take it with a full glass of water WITH or WITHOUT food.

You have Winny prescribed to you? Never heard of that. I've only heard of Test being prescribed.

Originally Posted by Crank

winny always helps me!

Originally Posted by GMO

Winstrol has never done me wrong.

Winny SUUUCCKKSSS and has never done shit for me. You need to be lean already to witness noticeable results. But IMO, it's a wasted run of a methyl.

Originally Posted by klc9100

damn. i just read that winny needs to be taken on an empty stomach. is that true? i don't do well taking shit without food.

Should be taken on an empty stomach about 15mins prior to food; then ingest at least 10-15g fat. Steroids are more soluble in fats, so the fat from the food will help dissolve and transport it, similar to how you should be having fat in a meal when taking your multivitamin.

Originally Posted by CT

You can take ANY oral with or without food it doesn't make a difference..

that's pretty much false.

So obviously one in the morning on an "Empty Stomach". But I'm pretty sure that's the only time I have an empty stomach. Is it better to take it all in the morning or split it up?

Originally Posted by klc9100

damn. i just read that winny needs to be taken on an empty stomach. is that true? i don't do well taking shit without food.

i'm 99.9% sure this isn't true

Originally Posted by ROID

i'm 99.9% sure this isn't true

i don't know bro. i read it on naps site in the product description. i guess the manufacturer thinks that:

http://www.napsgear.net/oral-steroid...trol-tabs--p57

Originally Posted by Beejis60

that's pretty much false.

No disrespect, but I totally disagree with you.

looks pretty good to me. I would do the aromasin 12.5 every day. It has a shorter 1/2 life in men.

Originally Posted by underscore

Winny needs to be taken on an empty stomach. Having food in your stomach will cause a decrease in the amount of winny that actually hits your bloodstream. The 17aa bond is for your liver and has nothing to do with blood absorption from food. Even a little bit of food in the stomach can cause this. So its best to take in the morning when you wake up.

Wrong.

Originally Posted by CT

You can take ANY oral with or without food it doesn't make a difference.

I kindly disagree. There was a study done on MENT where ingesting with food did decrease blood levels.... I'll try to dig it up. Also, from another board..

Originally Posted by William Llewellyn
Maximum bioavailability with c-17aa orals is noted when taken on an empty stomach, not with food. Given their mildly lipid soluble nature, some of the steroid may wind up getting excreted with undigested dietary fat if taken with food.



Still <3 you CT
-T